[waltero]

You [we] have got to respect the right of people to be wrong and not create a big dissension over the differences.


Opps, Wrong thread. Maybe it applies here too?
Sorry. Carry on


P.S.

Yes, the Creator made them male and female but that apple-eating episode queered the deal.

Interesting, I'd like to know more?

I Had planned on doing a study that involved: The Apple (food aspect) being the Catalyst of sin (so to speak).
Remember- God didn't curse man.

[waltero]

If I may?

If I remember Correctly: Adam Did have Authority over Eve. (I'm not Sure if he knew it or not). Adam Declared his Authoritative position when He named Eve (just as he had done with the Animals), By naming her Eve, he recognized his Authority. If I'm not mistaken he named his Wife (Eve) after Sin had already entered into the World?

Sorry, Not sure where you were going with this binary thing, along with the "eating of the Apple."

I understand having to *Accept LGBQT Community. Jesus didn't hate anybody as far as I know?
There might be a problem when a country "Promotes" such business?
*Accept it sure, but why Promote it?

***(Acknowledge Sin. Be it- as in my life- as in yours)

[jlisenbe]

Yes, the Creator made them male and female but that apple-eating episode queered the deal. Now the human, animal, and even plant world are no longer only binary.

You and Athos are in the same boat. You can believe what Jesus said or not. You have rather clearly decided not to. Why? Because it does not agree with your political philosophy. If you are going about, as I'm sure you are, telling homosexuals that their lifestyle is just fine with God on the basis of a silly reading of Genesis 3, and in complete denial of what Jesus said, and not to mention Paul's reference to the same passage in Eph. 5, then I fear for you.

[Athos]

then I fear for you.

LOL. It never fails.

[jlisenbe]

Laugh if you want. If Jesus is to be believed, then the day is approaching when laughing will not be an option.

[Wondergirl]

If I may?If I remember Correctly: Adam Did have Authority over Eve. Now I'm not Sure if he knew it or not. Adam Declared his Authoritative position only when He named Eve (just as he had done with the Animals). If I'm not mistaken he named his Wife (Eve) after Sin had entered the World.

Gen. 3:20: And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

It was mentioned after the first sin, but it seems to read like a "by the way".

You and Athos are in the same boat. You can believe what Jesus said or not. You have rather clearly decided not to. Why? Because it does not agree with your political philosophy. If you are going about, as I'm sure you are, telling homosexuals that their lifestyle is just fine with God on the basis of a silly reading of Genesis 3, and in complete denial of what Jesus said, and not to mention Paul's reference to the same passage in Eph. 5, then I fear for you.

And you've studied bible hermeneutics???

[jlisenbe]

And you've studied bible hermeneutics???

I have, and certainly in sufficient manner to know that you do not follow those principles. You would be well advised to do so.

[Wondergirl]

I have, and certainly in sufficient manner to know that you do not follow those principles. You would be well advised to do so.

I'm not a literalist.

Are you righthanded or lefthanded?

[jlisenbe]

Of course you are. Everyone is a literalist. You can't live without being a literalist. When you order a hamburger, you expect to get...a hamburger.

Incidentally, I have never, nor shall I ever, bash "Bibles on people's heads." On the other hand, I will not intentionally misrepresent the clear teaching of the Bible simply to preserve a person's temporary happiness. Much better to accept the joy that comes from serving Jesus than to walk in temporary pleasure.

[Wondergirl]

Of course you are. Everyone is a literalist. You can't live without being a literalist. When you order a hamburger, you expect to get...a hamburger.

No, I'm not. Neither is Arby's. If they are literalists, why did we order a roast beef sandwich, a gyro, and a beef 'n cheddar sandwich for supper and, after getting home, noticed they had put a fish sandwich into the bag too? If we are literalists, why did we eat the unordered fish sandwich?

Incidentally, I have never, nor shall I ever, bash "Bibles on people's heads."

You bash all the time with your cherry-picked and gotcha Bible verses.

On the other hand, I will not intentionally misrepresent the clear teaching of the Bible simply to preserve a person's temporary happiness. Much better to accept the joy that comes from serving Jesus than to walk in temporary pleasure.

You constantly misrepresent what the Bible says!

[jlisenbe]

No, I'm not. Neither is Arby's. If they are literalists, why did we order a roast beef sandwich, a gyro, and a beef 'n cheddar sandwich for supper and, after getting home, noticed they had put a fish sandwich into the bag too? If we are literalists, why did we eat the unordered fish sandwich?

That has nothing to do with being non-literal.

your cherry-picked and gotcha Bible verses.

You know better than that. A verse or two or three can be cherry picking, but when you start speaking of multiples of ten, and especially when you have no scriptures that contradict them, then talking about cherry picking is just evasion.

You constantly misrepresent what the Bible says!

Give an example.

WG, you know better. You know full well that you are not following the Bible. You honestly seem to not really know the Bible.

[Wondergirl]

That has nothing to do with being non-literal.

You used a hamburger as an example.

You know better than that. A verse or two or three can be cherry picking, but when you start speaking of multiples of ten, and especially when you have no scriptures that contradict them, then talking about cherry picking is just evasion.

Give an example.

WG, you know better. You know full well that you are not following the Bible. You honestly seem to not really know the Bible.

I KNEW the chiding would begin again. Of course I'm following the Bible! I love you despite yourself.

[jlisenbe]

Of course I'm following the Bible! I love you despite yourself.

Right.

[waltero]

Once Adam and Eve ate that apple, the universe became open to unlimited possibilities. No more binary.

It's all binary. The beauty of binary is that there is no wiggle room. Nothing is fuzzy or unclear.
It's a Binary Gospel.

[Wondergirl]

They are all binary.

Not any more! Humans, animals (both land and sea creatures), and plants are binary as well as non-binary.

[waltero]

It's a Binary Gospel.

[Wondergirl]

It's a Binary Gospel.

How so? Please explain.

[jlisenbe]

Not any more! Humans, animals (both land and sea creatures), and plants are binary as well as non-binary.

And we return yet again to the tired, well-worn, and thoroughly discredited Genesis 3 argument.

[waltero]

The beauty of binary is that there is no wiggle room. Nothing is fuzzy or unclear. In binary computer code, ones are not zeros, and zeros are not ones. This binary nature is what makes the true Gospel clear in contrast to religion.

“Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life” (John 5:24).

Here you have two binary opposites. You have either passed from death to life and will escape judgment, or you haven’t.

“Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life” (1 John 5:24).

Binary again. You either have the life in the Son or you don’t.

“For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves,” (Colossians 1:13).

You have been rescued or you haven’t. You are in the Kingdom or you are not.

The Scriptures are clear; it’s all of Jesus, or none of Him. IT’S BINARY.

[jlisenbe]

Well said, Walter.