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paraclete · Nov 11, 2020, 05:22 PM

peddling influence

tomder55 · Nov 12, 2020, 06:53 AM

RICO( Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) ....influence peddling for profit to benefit his family and himself even though SCOTUS took a lot of the enforcement mechanism away in the McDonnell v US decision . They sent Manafort to jail for FARA violations . Are Hunter ,James and/or Quid registered as foreign agents ? They should have registered as foreign agents for their business arrangements with the Chinese government back energy company CEFC. The company was actively seeking to build influence in the United States when it partnered with them. Not only that ; Hunter knew he had to register and chose to try to find ways to avoid it . Hunter Biden's text messages about his business dealings with CEFC show that he was aware that he was supposed to register with the Justice Department under FARA. He also wrote to his business partner Tony Bobulinski on May 1 2017 “We don't want to have to register as foreign agents under the FCPA which is much more expansive [expensive] than people who should know choose not to know.”

The Biden family also violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act which is an anti-bribery provision . A federal government official cannot assist or intervene to influence a foreign official in their official capacity to take an act that is in violation of their domestic duties “in order to assist in obtaining or retaining business for or with, or directing business to, any person.” Using his official office, and using the threat of withholding official U.S. foreign aid to Ukraine,Quid influenced a foreign official to stop executing their official duties which consisted of investigating Hunter Biden and Burisma in order to benefit his son .

talaniman · Nov 12, 2020, 07:08 AM

Seems that was an easy enough case to file by DOJ, yet it wasn't. Instead it was filed in the court of public opinion, and the judge (The PEEPS) dismissed the case. I guess the dufus's arms were too short to box with Biden, so he got taken behind the woodshed as promised. The dufus can try again in 2024.

tomder55 · Nov 12, 2020, 08:05 AM

Trump's DOJ is slightly better than the emperor's . But still they are swamp critters protecting their own . They do the investigations at a snail's pace with the intent of waiting him out . And they have succeeded . That is why I said there should be a special prosecutor assigned . Let Quid try firing the prosecutor . Maybe the Senate will impanel a commission or select committee with the power to subpoena, to investigate the allegations. They can't prosecute by themselves .But they can recommend charges . The goal is to not let Quid bury the investigation . Then perhaps in 2 years they will regain control of the House and Senate ...... payback is a beetch

jlisenbe · Nov 12, 2020, 08:38 AM

That is why I said there should be a special prosecutor assigned

Yep. If Trump has any concern for the truth, and I think he does, he will do that.

jlisenbe · Nov 12, 2020, 09:10 AM

talaniman · Nov 12, 2020, 09:25 AM

The dufus has never had concern for the truth just smearing people and lying for his own benefit and maybe as he heads out the door he may well sling some mud, but in the grand scheme of things with the senate up in the air still and a bunch of more important stuff on the front burner, the small potato stuff and right wing wish list could be on hold for a while.

jlisenbe · Nov 12, 2020, 09:32 AM

lying for his own benefit

Unlike your twin-paragons of virtue, HC and JB?

Wondergirl · Nov 12, 2020, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Unlike your twin-paragons of virtue, HC and JB?

At least they don't slaughter innocent animals in trophy hunts.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PO99-QLuOkk

jlisenbe · Nov 12, 2020, 10:23 AM

At least they don't slaughter innocent animals in trophy hunts.

No. They simply support the slaughter of innocent, unborn children. I find it incredible that you, a confessing Christian, would be critical of Trump for trophy hunting, and yet be totally silent about your liberal dem heroes and abortion. It's just stunning.

Wondergirl · Nov 12, 2020, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

No. They simply support the slaughter of innocent, unborn children.

But you, a Christian, don't care about innocent, born children they have slaughtered, do you. That's just stunning.

The article my Pentecostal sister sent me begins by saying, "Biden and Harris are strong supporters of Roe v. Wade.
Roe requires that abortion be permissible even at the end of pregnancy whenever a physician believes it necessary to protect a woman’s health."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cy/ar-BB18CUlx

I told her I totally agree. God commanded "do not kill" and He also blessed us with intelligence. A woman and her doctor need to work this out. Having been pregnant twice, I can't believe abortion, at whatever stage of pregnancy, is ever a willy-nilly, flippant decision, "just because I want to, just because I feel like it."

jlisenbe · Nov 12, 2020, 11:41 AM

But you, a Christian, don't care about innocent, born children they have slaughtered, do you. That's just stunning.

It would be if it was even remotely close to being true. But I'll make a deal with you. I will join you in standing against the killing of innocent children anywhere if you will join me in opposing the killing of unborn children in abortion. Deal? (My prediction. You will either go silent again for a week, just ignore it, or flatly refuse.)

I told her I totally agree. God commanded "do not kill" and He also blessed us with intelligence. A woman and her doctor need to work this out. Having been pregnant twice, I can't believe abortion, at whatever stage of pregnancy, is ever a willy-nilly, flippant decision, "just because I want to, just because I feel like it."

Oh? You've been pregnant twice, so you understand why the 900,000 abortions a year happen? You have to know that makes no sense. And a woman needs to work this out with a doctor at an abortion clinic who is making a quarter mil a year doing abortions? It's a ridiculous idea. I never cease to be amazed at the lengths you will go to in order to ease your conscience. And JB supports Roe? Of course he does. Where do you think abortion comes from???

Here are the reasons women list for having abortions according to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, which is associated with PP and hardly a conservative institution. You will note that your observation is incorrect.

https://www.hli.org/resources/why-women-abort/

Wondergirl · Nov 12, 2020, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

It would be if it was even remotely close to being true. But I'll make a deal with you. I will join you in standing against the killing of innocent children anywhere if you will join me in opposing the killing of unborn children in abortion.

Nope, no bananas. It isn't a yes/no issue.

Oh? You've been pregnant twice, so you understand why the 900,000 abortions a year happen?

How many times have YOU been pregnant?

jlisenbe · Nov 12, 2020, 03:08 PM

Nope, no bananas. It isn't a yes/no issue.

As I figured. Tragic.

How many times have YOU been pregnant?

I have self identified as a pregnant woman on a number of occasions. 8D

Wondergirl · Nov 12, 2020, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

As I figured. Tragic.

Abortion has been with us since the beginning...and will be with us until the Last Day.

I have self identified as a pregnant woman on a number of occasions. 8D

Now I have questions....

jlisenbe · Nov 12, 2020, 04:07 PM

Abortion has been with us since the beginning...and will be with us until the Last Day.

So have murder, rape, robbery, violent assault, etc., so I guess we should just let all of those go by as well.

Wow. 900,000 human lives a year, and you are so casual about it.

Wondergirl · Nov 12, 2020, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Wow. 900,000 human lives a year, and you are so casual about it.

And then, there are 666 children at the southern border whose parents have been totally disconnected from them. The number is interesting....

paraclete · Nov 12, 2020, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

And then, there are 666 children at the southern border whose parents have been totally disconnected from them. The number is interesting....

until there is one more, 666 refers to man putting themselves before God, and the evidence is all around us, yes, slaughter of the innocents is part of it, Eve was deceived in the garden and remains deceived when she thinks it is okay to take life for her own ends, but there are many more indications of the antichrist loose in the world and most are out of sight of the 5% who live in the USA

Wondergirl · Nov 12, 2020, 04:43 PM

And man certainly has put himself before God, hasn't he! Jesus said love one another. How we fail at that, especially when the others are immigrants, people of color, the LGBTQIA community.

It took the wiles of Satan to deceive Eve and only a mere woman to deceive Adam.

paraclete · Nov 12, 2020, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

And man certainly has put himself before God, hasn't he! Jesus said love one another. How we fail at that, especially when the others are immigrants, people of color, the LGBTQIA community.

It took the wiles of Satan to deceive Eve and only a mere woman to deceive Adam.

Nothing to be proud of, Satan knew he could not deceive Adam, but Eve wanted to be equal with God and still does. People no longer take the stranger into their homes and there was always discrimination. The Jews practiced discrimination against the whole human race on religious grounds and certainly didn't recognise the LGBTQIA "community" but man welcomes this abomination in all its manifestations. Even Jesus wasn't sent to the gentiles but had to raise disciples for that purpose.

Don't be confused by liberal theology