[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

"Complex and intricate" is libspeak for "we didn't read the damn thing and you're too stupid to understand it anyway."

If I was a congressman, I'd read all the bills. Until recently, I thought ALL of them did. But, a surprising number don't. That's because, these days what a bill DOES, isn't as important as the political ramifications of voting for it are.

Excon

[speechlesstx]

Here's a thought, how about we fix the overly massive, "complex and intricate" bureaucracy we have instead of making even more "complex and intricate?" You know, downsize. All those bills no one reads have real life implications for Americans and this one is monumental disaster. They deserve some political ramifications for foisting this BS on us.

Instead, we get crap like this for not getting on board with the game being played.

D.C. insurance commissioner fired a day after questioning Obamacare fix - The Washington Post

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

You know, downsize.

I'm on board. I'm a small government liberal. We could have written a health care law on one page, and left most of it blank: Medicare For All. Then, we'd hire a few more IT guys to run the computers that write the checks.

Done and done.

Excon

[Wondergirl]

Medicare For All.

That works for me. I LOVE Medicare!

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:
I'm on board. I'm a small government liberal. We coulda written a health care law on one page, and left most of it blank: Medicare For All. Then, we'd hire a few more IT guys to run the computers that write the checks.

Done and done.

excon

And how many pages of federal code and regulations are involved in Medicare?

P.S. And congratulations on Seattle electing their first Socialist city council member.

[talaniman]

Not enough votes for such a radical socialist idea, because the radical socialist in chief wants to get in your life and make himself an emperor and stuff. He just ain't like the rest of us in America.

Now spread your legs and cheeks and let me stick this probe up your arse and female parts to see if you are pregnant or carrying drugs.

Stupid isn't covered under ACA, but crazy is.

[NeedKarma]

P.S. And congratulations on Seattle electing their first Socialist city council member.

You say it like it's a bad thing.

[speechlesstx]

Not enough votes for such a radical socialist idea, because the radical socialist in chief wants to get in your life and make himself an emperor and stuff. He just ain't like the rest of us in America.

Now spread your legs and cheeks and let me stick this probe up your arse and female parts to see if you are pregnant or carrying drugs.

In other words, you reiterate your support regulating medical care except in abortion.

Stupid isn't covered under ACA, but crazy is.

And I can't wait to use our contraceptive and maternity coverage.

[talaniman]

Not in other words, in my own words. The minimum standard has been established and if you don't use it, you will incur no costs. As to regulations concerning abortions the standard is less than 20 weeks or danger to the female and such decisions are up to the female and doctor, not Rick Perry, or Bob McDonnell. None are qualified physicians and neither are YOU.

Those are my words. If you were as concerned about the crazy people with guns as you are abortions then we could have a reasonable debate.

[speechlesstx]

Not in other words, in my own words. The minimum standard has been established and if you don't use it, you will incur no costs. As to regulations concerning abortions the standard is less than 20 weeks or danger to the female and such decisions are up to the female and doctor, not Rick Perry, or Bob McDonnell. None are qualified physicians and neither are YOU.

Those are my words. If you were as concerned about the crazy people with guns as you are abortions then we could have a reasonable debate.

I've never supported crazy people with guns so there you go, you start.

[talaniman]

I've never supported crazy people with guns so there you go, you start.

I have, trust but verify who gets a gun, and make sure the loony's never get them. What's YOUR idea?

[speechlesstx]

I have, trust but verify who gets a gun, and make sure the loony's never get them. What's YOUR idea?

Make sure women facing an abortion have competent, qualified physicians and the same safeguards as other patients.

[speechlesstx]

I somehow missed this little gem...

Obamacare too costly for rich Coloradans, Democrat congressman says

Rep. Jared Polis, D-Boulder, told a Colorado health policy think tank that Obamacare premiums will be too expensive for some of the wealthiest addresses in America – ski resorts like Breckenridge and Keystone. He says he’s asking the feds to let them sit out the president’s national health system.

“We will be encouraging a waiver,” Polis told Health Policy Solutions in a story that ran today. “It will be difficult for Summit County residents to become insured. For the vast majority, it’s too high a price to pay.”

The resorts are in Summit County and Aspen is in a neighboring county, which Polis also represents. He has consistently voted in favor of Obamacare.

Polis also wrote to Colorado’s insurance commissioner asking why an average 40-year-old mountaintop resident would have to fork over $427.80 a month while counterparts in Denver would pay $296.41 for the same plan.

All of this sounded a bit hypocritical to the Colorado Republican Party.

No kidding.

“Why not seek a waiver or delay for every Coloradoan or every American for that matter?” Colorado GOP Chairman Ryan Call told Watchdog. “Labor unions, big corporations, other politically connected friends of the Obama administration and Summit County are justified in seeking a waiver but what about others?”

Summit County has approximately 1,200 more registered Democrats than Republicans.

Funny how all these Dems that LOVED the "Affordable" Healthcare Act keep whining about how unaffordable it is, how dare Obama force rich Democrats to pay their share!

[tomder55]

Agreeing to another ObamaCare concession, the White House said today it is helping insurers to bypass HealthCare.gov and directly enroll customers who qualify for tax credits, the Wall Street Journal reports. "It's the end here that matters, not necessarily the means," said White House spokesman Jay Carney. "We have to make sure that there are other means available for the American people, even as we make improvements to the website."

As it stands, customers can buy insurance directly from health care insurers, but people eligible for subsidies can only get them by purchasing insurance on HealthCare.gov. Now, if the Obama administration and insurers can untangle the technical issues, customers will be allowed to buy insurance directly with subsidies. Only downside: They won't be able to comparison shop between health insurers as they would online, meaning that smaller, less popular insurers may lose customers, the Journal notes.

White House to Help Health Insurers Bypass Website - Jay Carney: It's about the ends, not the means

[talaniman]

How did we shop for insurance before the ACA? Google still works in every state. Just Google "Health insurance in >insert state, or zip code< " Walahhhh! Comparisons.

For a fee, I will do it for you.

[smoothy]

I don't have faith OB can put on the right underwear on every day. (meaning his own)...

He's not going to fix anything... he has no concept of how anything actually works to begin with.

[paraclete]

He's not going to fix anything... he has no concept of how anything actually works to begin with.

You don't fix something that doesn't need to be fixed, oh wait a minute, is that before or after he fixed it?

[smoothy]

you don't fix something that doesn't need to be fixed, oh wait a minute, is that before or after he fixed it?

Well its wasn't broke before Obamacare... and it most certainly is now. One of the many topics he knows absolutely nothing about... like Economics, Job Creation, civility, Foreign Affairs, etc.

He is real good at being a con man, a typical huckster.....who at one time in the not so distant past would have been hawking Snake oil to suckers out of a wagon...never spending the night in any town twice..

[tomder55]

When asked whether Democrats were misled by President Obama about whether Americans would be able to keep their plans in the individual insurance market,Sen Gillibrand NY answered: “He should've just been specific. No, we all knew.”

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand: President Obama Should Have Been 'More Specific' With Healthcare Promise - ABC News

[paraclete]

Well its wasn't broke before Obamacare... and it most certainly is now. One of the many topics he knows absolutely nothing about... like Economics, Job Creation, civility, Foreign Affairs, etc.

He is real good at being a con man, a typical huckster.....who at one time in the not so distant past would have been hawking Snake oil to suckers out of a wagon...never spending the night in any town twice..

But he had help, you can't just blame him