[smoothy]

Social Security used to be held in trust by our government... at least until the Johnson administration... now they spend it all on everything but SSI.

Proof you can't trust politicians with your money.

[Wondergirl]

Social Security used to be held in trust by our government... at least until the Johnson administration... now they spend it all on everything but SSI.

We'll just call in the IOUs. :)

[paraclete]

Social Security used to be held in trust by our government... at least until the Johnson administration... now they spend it all on everything but SSI.

Proof you can't trust politicians with your money.

Yes some politicians are spendthrifts but raiding grandma's pantry is unnecessary when you can print all the money you want

[smoothy]

We'll just call in the IOUs. :)

They aren't worth the paper they are written on...

[smoothy]

Yes some politicians are spendthrifts but raiding grandma's pantry is unnecessary when you can print all the money you want

Exactly...

[tomder55]

Even NBC News now admits that the emperor is a F~n liar!

Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance - Investigations

It's not a big stretch to surmise that if the truth was known when the law was being passed ,the level of popular support (which was always a questionable stat ) would not have been near where the Obots claim it is /was .

[paraclete]

So you have a bad case of polispeak, get over it

[tomder55]

More than that... more like 'the big lie '.. the MAIN selling point of this monstrosity .

"The great masses will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one" (Hitler )

[speechlesstx]

More than that... more like 'the big lie '.. the MAIN selling point of this monstrosity .

"The great masses will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one" (Hitler )

And yet after the big lie is exposed the admin is blaming insurance companies. Obviously the left thinks we're stupid.

[talaniman]

The insurance companies knew of this too and knew they had millions of junk bare bones insurance policies out there.

Many small insurance companies have been going out of business the last few years because of the new law, and people weren't happy that those small premium policies had few or inadequate coverages. You know as well as I do that most people liked their insurance until they had to use it. Then they didn't like it after they were denied services, or had to pay out of pocket for the services they needed, or kicked out altogether.

One of the biggest flaws in this roll out as I see it is failure to articulate the need to examine what you have been paying for and what you have been getting from your insurance policies because in the past the government wasn't around to tell consumers they were and would be screwed by what they like so much.

My whole problem with the ACA is it still has a for profit private company between you and your doctor, and that's the incentive for higher profits driving higher costs. it's a small step in the right direction. I never saw this as a final solution, nor a quick fix. But the best feature is the oversight and regulations on the insurance industry that's been sorely needed to reign in the gouging and egregious past practices that's been going on for decades and sets a minimum standard for the quality of a service consumers NEED to protect them and their families.

We all want lower prices, but it's unrealistic in face of the price of everything is going up, NOT down.

[tomder55]

Junk bare bone plans ? That's what you think millions of Americans purchased ? Maybe some of them were.. maybe some of the changes were as obscure as deductible changes. But let's assume you are right. That means millions of Americans wanted those so called bare bone plans. But that's not good enough for the masters of the universe who can dictate the level of coverage as they micromanage every aspect of our lives.

[speechlesstx]

Give it up, Tal, we were fed a big lie and we're aren't buying this shifting the blame BS.

[speechlesstx]

Junk bare bone plans ? That's what you think millions of Americans purchased ? Maybe some of them were.. maybe some of the changes were as obscure as deductible changes. But let's assume you are right. That means millions of Americans wanted those so called bare bone plans. But that's not good enough for the masters of the universe who can dictate the level of coverage as they micromanage every aspect of our lives.

No, no, no tom, they don't want ANY aspect of abortion managed.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

That means millions of Americans wanted those so called bare bone plans.

What those plans DON'T cover, you and I DO, and we DO it the ER - the MOST expensive way we know how. Look. If it didn't cost ME anything, I'd agree. Buyer beware..

But, it DOES... And, it costs me BIG.

excon

[talaniman]

You liked those greasy tacos until you find out you are eating stray cat meat.

[speechlesstx]

And you think people responsible enough to buy health insurance don't pay their bills, that the taxpayer picks up the tab? Get real, ex.

[speechlesstx]

You liked those greasy tacos until you find out you are eating stray cat meat.

So force us to buy $300 tacos next.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

And you think people responsible enough to buy health insurance don't pay their bills, that the taxpayer picks up the tab? Get real, ex.

Sure they will, if they can. But, you gotta ask yourself, if those plans PAY for MOST things, then they wouldn't be bare bones, would they? But, they DON'T. It's MY bet that the bare bones policies'll PAY for the cheap stuff, but NOT the big ticket items. That's how they make their money... But, they don't pay for the REAL expensive stuff, like cancer.

You and I do. Get real, speech.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:
Sure they will, if they can. But, you gotta ask yourself, if those plans PAY for MOST things, then they wouldn't be bare bones, would they? But, they DON'T. It's MY bet that the bare bones policies'll PAY for the cheap stuff, but NOT the big ticket items. That's how they make their money... But, they don't pay for the REAL expensive stuff, like cancer.

You and I do. Get real, speech.

excon

Sorry, you're punishing responsible people and that's wrong. You're forcing people to buy something they don't want and can't afford and that's wrong. We were fed a huge lie over and over again and that's wrong. The government tried to hide the costs which added to their disastrous rollout and have lied to us over and over about it and that's wrong.

[talaniman]

So force us to buy $300 tacos next.

That's kind of silly since your choice is to eat cat tacos or pig tacos, or beef tacos.

Since YOU have insurance YOU like and have made the choice to keep it. Why don't you let everybody weigh their own options and see what works best for them. Glitches and roll out deficiencies aside, and politics, you cannot deny people need health care choices.

But you would deny others having a choice that YOU have already made for yourself. Looking for a name for that.

Hey if you like cat tacos keep eating them, just please don't invite me for lunch!