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    #1121

    Aug 19, 2013, 12:24 PM
    Letting people do their own thing is a high and mighty attitude? Maybe in your world. I'm quite certain you don't understand atheism.
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    #1122

    Aug 19, 2013, 12:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Letting people do their own thing is a high and mighty attitude? Maybe in your world. I'm quite certain you don't understand atheism.
    Your words...

    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    They mostly do. Usually by ignoring them.
    In response to my comment...

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    Atheists COULD show respect to Christians....and so could the Muslim Troglodytes....



    So you think you are somehow better than they are?. because that's a very dismissive and derogatory perspective to have towards others, meaning you think they are below you rather than equals... much less superiour... when taken literally... and you have said you are a very literal person.
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    #1123

    Aug 19, 2013, 01:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well I was referring to the event that started the whole thing in the first place.

    You are an example that reminds me of why I shun religion.
    Oh pooh, what an excuse. You seem to have that attitude that Christians should be doormats. Sorry, but we were not called to be doormats and I think it just irritates you when we stand up to your crap.
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    #1124

    Aug 19, 2013, 01:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I don't rationalize death threats either, two wrongs don't make a right. But who says people who do make death threats are rational? I sure don't. Such people would use any excuse to justify bad behavior

    Seeking redress in court is a much more effective, rational, and civil way to handle it. Breaking the law has consequences. Or should have no matter who does it, or the reasons they do it.
    Why didn't you say that in the first place?
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    Aug 19, 2013, 02:09 PM
    You seem to have that attitude that Christians should be doormats. Sorry, but we were not called to be doormats and I think it just irritates you when we stand up to your crap.
    Certainly not. But it's obvious many christians are very angry and bitter people towards their fellow man. Like you many are quite dismissive of the words of Jesus when it suits them.
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    #1126

    Aug 19, 2013, 02:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Why didn't you say that in the first place?
    I did here,

    Ask Me Help Desk - View Single Post - It's come to this - Rev. 2

    You just didn't grasp the depth and nuance of what I was saying because you were too busy dealing with the effects, and not the actual cause which triggered the subsequent actions.

    What's lost on these highly publicized cases are the many more examples of good behavior which won't meet the standard of worthy news, that are both inspirational, and affirming of doing the right thing by your fellow human that by far overshadow the bad examples of behavior.

    Maybe that's why my outrage falls short of your emotional expectation because I see where we get it right more than you see where we drop the ball. Jut an observation.
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    Aug 19, 2013, 02:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Certainly not. But it's obvious many christians are very angry and bitter people towards their fellow man.
    True, many are. Do you blame them? People like you have them in their crosshairs all the time. The left bashes Christians for sport then like you throws a bible verse at them when they respond to your attacks. Like I said, we weren't called to be doormats.

    Like you many are quite dismissive of the words of Jesus when it suits them.
    Wrong, I am never dismissive of Jesus' words. I don't pull them out of context and use them to bludgeon others like you do.
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    #1128

    Aug 19, 2013, 02:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I did here,

    Ask Me Help Desk - View Single Post - It's come to this - Rev. 2

    You just didn't grasp the depth and nuance of what I was saying because you were too busy dealing with the effects, and not the actual cause which triggered the subsequent actions.
    You are correct, sorry about that.

    Carry on.

    P.S. You're welcome, I had my batters lay off all weekend so you could gain on me.
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    Aug 19, 2013, 02:55 PM
    Hello again, Steve:
    P.S. You're welcome, I had my batters lay off all weekend so you could gain on me.
    Yes, you did! Who's your Daddy??

    Excon
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    Aug 19, 2013, 02:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    Yes, you did! Who's your Daddy???

    excon
    You're welcome, too. I have now finally surrendered first place overall.
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    #1131

    Aug 19, 2013, 05:04 PM
    The left bashes Christians for sport
    I guess it's because they aren't doormats - to use your reasoning.
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    #1132

    Aug 19, 2013, 05:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I guess it's because they aren't doormats - to use your reasoning.
    So you do think we're supposed to be doormats. Well, I can't help it if you're ignorant.
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    Aug 19, 2013, 06:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I guess it's because they aren't doormats - to use your reasoning.
    Everybody bashes Christians for sport Karma but you are lucky we are a forgiving people
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    #1134

    Aug 19, 2013, 06:49 PM
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    everybody bashes Christians for sport Karma but you are lucky we are a forgiving people
    But they need to sleep with one eye open... because we Christians shall wage our revenge when they least expect it.
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    Aug 19, 2013, 07:45 PM
    True Christians aren't interested in revenge Smoothy but they may be interested in protecting themselves, besides we can be very subtle
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    Aug 20, 2013, 04:21 AM
    everybody bashes Christians for sport Karma
    What you call bashing is likely due to events in the past few decades that have led to deeper scrutiny of what goes on behind closed doors. Then you have people like smoothy who threaten physical violence.
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    #1137

    Aug 20, 2013, 04:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    True Christians aren't interested in revenge Smoothy but they may be interested in protecting themselves, besides we can be very subtle
    True... the the line between protection and revenge can be a very blurry one. Particularly when you are being subtle.
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    #1138

    Aug 20, 2013, 06:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    What you call bashing is likely due to events in the past few decades that have led to deeper scrutiny of what goes on behind closed doors. Then you have people like smoothy who threaten physical violence.
    Hardly, the war on Christianity has been going on for decades and it has nothing to do with any alleged scandal.
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    Aug 20, 2013, 06:42 AM
    That's a bunch of hooey. If you run out of your house to your neighbor, and tell them they will go to hell for sinning, you get cussed out. If you live and let live, you don't get cussed out.

    It's a real simple formula, stop sneerling your nose at the difference of others, and telling them they are wrong, and you don't get cussed out. Isn't that what the Arab Spring is about? Fundamentalist religious types trying to dictate what everybody does and believes, and hoarding the money, power, and influence, over the increasing pressure of keeping people poor and subjective.

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    #1140

    Aug 20, 2013, 06:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Hardly, the war on Christianity has been going on for decades and it has nothing to do with any alleged scandal.
    What is alleged about the scandal, do you think there weren't paedophile priests and clergy? Those people are not Christians but wolves masquarading as Christians. The world doesn't know anything but what the media tells them, when is the last time you saw a true Christian event reported? Where I come from if you were not a Christian you would not know christianity existed

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