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Jul 17, 2013, 05:08 AM
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Yes... the best educations are from conservative institutions, but what has been an abject failure everywhere is Liberal education... You just can't teach a stump much of anything.
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Jul 17, 2013, 05:18 AM
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 Originally Posted by cdad
No he was returning to his car when he was attatcked by Treyvon.
And you see that as many times as the facts have been presented here they keep returning to the same concocted stories.
Treyvon was afraid he was going to be raped by zimmerman so he threw the first punch. He had to teach that homo a lesson.
Yep, had to get that "creepy a$$ cracka".
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Jul 17, 2013, 05:22 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Are there any successes of conservative education?
Hillsdale College - Home
I don't think they offer any degrees in pole dancing.
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Jul 17, 2013, 05:24 AM
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Treyvon and that dumb ugly cow he called a girlfriend are Both racists of the worst kind. As proven by their own words, under oath.. on the stand.
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Jul 17, 2013, 06:24 AM
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What successful people can you point me to who are products of a conservative education.
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Jul 17, 2013, 07:25 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
What successful people can you point me to who are products of a conservative education.
You seem to be under the impression that education has always been liberal/progressive as defined today. And as I've pointed out numerous times during the contraceptive mandate discussion education, as with medicine, was largely a product of the church in this country, schools were not run by flaming libs so I believe I can safely say a great many people throughout this country's history have been the product of 'conservative' education as opposed to today's liberal education.
You really should read about Hillsdale, it has quite a history.
Shortly after its founding, Hillsdale, as a part of the anti-slavery Freewill Baptist denomination, emerged as an early agitator for the abolition of slavery and for the education of black students.[16] Black students were admitted immediately after the college's 1844 founding, and the College became the second[3] school in the nation to grant four-year liberal arts degrees to women.[17]
Many Hillsdale students served in the Union army during the American Civil War. A higher percentage of Hillsdale students enlisted than from any other non-military college.[18] Of the more than 400 men serving, half became officers. During the conflict, four Hillsdale students received the Medal of Honor, three became generals, and many more served as regimental commanders. For the more than sixty that died, a monument was erected in their honor, which now stands between Kendall and Lane Halls.[3]
Non-discrimination policy
Hillsdale's non-discrimination policy remained controversial throughout its history. For example, Hillsdale's football team refused to play in the 1956 Tangerine Bowl in Florida when the governing committee of the Bowl would not allow the team's black players to join the white players on the field; the committee then selected Juniata College instead.[19][20]
Hillsdale College's policies came under fire in the 1970s following the enactment of affirmative action legislation. Because some students were receiving federal loans, the federal government asserted that it could require Hillsdale College to submit Assurance of Compliance forms mandated by Title IX as a condition of the continued receipt of federal financial assistance by two hundred Hillsdale students. Hillsdale refused compliance on the grounds that its own policies were less discriminatory than those the federal government would impose. This ongoing dispute with the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW) began to intensify in 1979 when the College filed a petition for judicial review in the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, asking the court to overturn a previous decision by the Reviewing Authority, Office of Civil Rights of HEW. In December 1982, the Sixth Circuit upheld Hillsdale's refusal to sign the compliance forms but also ruled that government aid to individual students could be terminated without a finding that a college actually discriminated.
In February 1984, in a related case, Grove City College v. Bell, the Supreme Court required every college or university to fulfill federal requirements – past and future requirements – if its students received federal aid. As a result of the court's decision, Hillsdale withdrew from all federal assistance beginning with the 1984–85 academic year; Grove City College, the defendant in that case, followed Hillsdale's lead four years later.
Beginning with the 2007–2008 academic year, Hillsdale also stopped accepting Michigan state assistance, instead matching any funds that a student would have received from the state with its own aid.[21] Since 2007, Hillsdale's entire operating budget of the college, including scholarships, comes from private funding and endowments.
Hillsdale's feud with the federal government is ongoing; in its 2010 "Resolution Against Federal Interference," it accuses both Congress and the Obama administration of appearing, "even more than the worst of their predecessors, bent on extending federal control over American higher education and other areas of American life."[22]
Edmund Burke Fairfield was the college's second president, leading Hillsdale from 1848 to 1869.[33] During his presidency, he helped found the Republican Party.[34]
James Calder was the college's third president, serving from 1869 to 1871. He later resigned to serve as president of the Pennsylvania State University.[33] He was succeeded by DeWitt Clinton Durgin, a graduate of Union College, from 1874–1878,[33] and George F. Mosher, who served from 1886 to 1901.[33][35]
Joseph William Mauck was the sixth president, leading from 1902 to 1922.[33] He was an outspoken advocate for women's suffrage.[36][37] He was succeeded by William Gear Spencer from 1922 to 1932,[33] who departed to lead Franklin College.[38]
List of Hillsdale College alumni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
But go ahead, keep trying to mock conservative education.
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Jul 17, 2013, 08:05 AM
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The 1800's and 1902 - good to know. Thanks.
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Jul 17, 2013, 08:14 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
What successful people can you point me to who are products of a conservative education.
Me me me! 1950s and early 1960s -- Palmer Penmanship, memorizing times tables, memorizing Bible verses/Psalms/classic poems, art and music appreciation lessons, practical classes on managing your checking account/checkbook, etc. -- and that was elementary school to 8th grade.
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Jul 17, 2013, 08:34 AM
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4/5th of those are taught at all schools (or so I hope). Though I wish more schools taught basic personal finance skills; no problem though, that's my job as a parent.
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Jul 17, 2013, 08:39 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
The 1800's and 1902 - good to know. Thanks.
For someone whose job it is to make sure links are in the right places you sure do have a hard time understanding how they work. Click the second link, not the one 'about' Hillsdale which I excerpted. You know, the one that says " List of Hillsdale College alumni."
P.S.Success is timeless and has nothing to do with fame.
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Jul 17, 2013, 10:46 AM
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Hello again, smoothy:
You won't see this one on the news... From the floor of the House of Representatives.
What? That's NEW?
Bwa, ha ha ha ha.
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Jul 17, 2013, 10:47 AM
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Shows there are polititians with the balls to tell OWEbama what they think of him, Joe the Joke, and Eric Heldem too tight... without mincing words.
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Jul 17, 2013, 11:12 AM
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More pandering to the right wing loony fringe. Its job security.
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Jul 17, 2013, 11:13 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
More pandering to the right wing loony fringe. Its job security.
Owebama does that every time he gets in front of a camera.. and all the democrats get on their knees and prostrate themsleves like Muslims praying to Allah.
THere was not one single word he said in that video that was even the slightest bit incorrect... it was 100% factual and the lefties can't disprove any of it.
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Jul 17, 2013, 11:17 AM
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Hello again, smoothy:
I don't know. This right winger didn't break any new ground, and didn't use new language.. I've heard the same thing from them day in and day out, since Obama was elected.
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Jul 17, 2013, 11:20 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
More pandering to the right wing loony fringe. Its job security.
Pandering? Like Holder and Sebelius yesterday?
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Jul 17, 2013, 11:20 AM
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Hello again, smoothy:
it was 100% factual and the lefties can't disprove any of it.
The problem is, if you want to get RID of Obama, it's YOU GUYS that have to prove it, and you can't, can't, can't. If you COULD, you WOULD!
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Jul 17, 2013, 11:21 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, smoothy:
The problem is, if you wanna get RID of Obama, it's YOU GUYS that have to prove it, and you can't, can't, can't. If you COULD, you WOULD!
excon
We have... Owebama Butt buddy Eric is preventing any investigations...
However these crimes don't have a statute of limitations... and both their days in office are limited. Biden will just end up wearing a diaper in a nursing home...
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Jul 17, 2013, 12:26 PM
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Hello smoothy:
We have... Owebama Butt buddy Eric is preventing any investigations...
Nahhhh... That ain't the way things work... Asking the executive branch to investigate itself isn't the thing to do... In this great nation of ours, the founders gave each branch of government a check on the other. One of those checks is the oversight of the executive BY the congress... Certainly, you know this.
Now, we've got a Republican controlled congress. They have the POWER to investigate. They have the WILL to investigate. They have the POWER to subpoena witnesses, and they have the POWER to put them in jail if they DON'T cooperate. They only thing they DON'T have, is PROOF of wrongdoing!!
So, Daryl Issa, like you, throws up his hands and snivels. Now, I KNOW why he won't investigate, and you do too.. It's because there's NOTHING there... IF there was, you'd grab it. You surly would. You and Issa HATE Obama soooo much, that you'd grab on to ANYTHING that would get rid of him...
But, you don't.. Because you can't.
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