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    #221

    Jun 5, 2013, 12:32 PM
    Got a link to the judges ruling?
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    #222

    Jun 5, 2013, 12:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Got a link to the judges ruling?
    Not yet. But look for it after it happens.
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    #223

    Jun 5, 2013, 02:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The nurse was supported by LAW. The hospital was wrong, you think they'll make a law to refuse service to other humans because of religious convictions though?

    I believe the pharmacist is settle law also, not sure if its under national or local jurisdiction.
    The florist is supported by law, I already showed that.

    In additional to federal constitutional protections, the Washington State Constitution also protects “freedom of conscience in all matters of religious sentiment, belief, and worship,” as stated in Article 1, Section 11.
    So you're OK with someone refusing to perform services on religious grounds after all. Good.
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    #224

    Jun 18, 2013, 07:41 AM
    Hello again,

    Michell Bachmann is against gay marriage. I don't know why, I just like this picture of her. It must be her eyes..
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    #225

    Jun 18, 2013, 08:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Michell Bachmann is against gay marriage. I dunno why, I just like this picture of her. It must be her eyes..
    Starting up the war on women again I see.
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    #226

    Jun 18, 2013, 08:08 AM
    Michell Bachmann is against gay marriage.
    Which is ironic.
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    #227

    Jun 18, 2013, 08:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Which is ironic.
    Why is it ironic?
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    #228

    Jun 18, 2013, 08:17 AM
    Y'know.. her husband.
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    #229

    Jun 18, 2013, 08:21 AM
    In case you're confused, here are the results of a Google search for "Michelle Bachman husband":
    https://www.google.ca/#safe=active&o...w=1680&bih=899
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    #230

    Jun 18, 2013, 08:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    In case you're confused, here are the results of a Google search for "Michelle Bachman husband":
    https://www.google.ca/#safe=active&o...w=1680&bih=899
    It's ironic because Cher's gaydar says so? And you were complaining about the level of discourse here yesterday, now that's ironic.
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    Jun 18, 2013, 09:03 AM
    What's ironic you would deny the same rights you enjoy to others because YOU believe marriage is between a man and woman exclusively.

    Its ironic that you keep defining what your rights are yet balk when others define their rights.

    Live within your beliefs if you want, that is your right, but you also have to let others live within theirs. You don't have to agree to respect that within reason.
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    #232

    Jun 18, 2013, 09:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    What's ironic you would deny the same rights you enjoy to others because YOU believe marriage is between a man and woman exclusively.

    Its ironic that you keep defining what your rights are yet balk when others define their rights.

    Live within your beliefs if you want, that is your right, but you also have to let others live within theirs. You don't have to agree to respect that within reason.
    Oh get off your sanctimonious high horse. No one is more rigid about trying to define other's rights than progressives. This issue is like every other issue with your side, your idea of coming together for a solution means we move to your side or nothing doing.
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    Jun 18, 2013, 10:02 AM
    You have no middle ground that opens up reasonable dialog. There is no meet you in the middle. Sanctimonious? Perhaps but no more than you.
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    Jun 18, 2013, 10:09 AM
    No middle ground ? I think I've offered more than one reasonable and legal alternative. But your side ;it's gay marriage or nothing.
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    #235

    Jun 18, 2013, 10:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You have no middle ground that opens up reasonable dialog. There is no meet you in the middle. Sanctimonious? Perhaps but no more than you.
    Dude, I accepted the original compromise from the LGBT community - civil unions - many years ago but they reneged. That's how it works with your side, just as I said.

    What, you think I've forgotten? No, when I agree to someone's compromise and then says the deal's off the table and walks away, they can kiss my...
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    Jun 18, 2013, 10:42 AM
    Its not up to you, or me at this point since its in the hands of the courts. There will be a ruling Thursday, likely a narrow opinion on prop 8 in California, and maybe on the constitutionality of DOMA.

    But gay people have the right to push for their rights through the court the same way any American does. That's why we have a court to settle grievances lawfully whether you agree with the decision or not. They can appeal if they have grounds, any decision by any judge.

    Isn't that how the system works? Opinion between us means nothing, and changes nothing.
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    Jun 18, 2013, 10:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Dude, I accepted the original compromise from the LGBT community - civil unions - many years ago but they reneged. That's how it works with your side, just as I said.

    What, you think I've forgotten? No, when I agree to someone's compromise and then says the deal's off the table and walks away, they can kiss my....
    The LBGT community changed their minds and pushed it to the SCOTUS. I don't think they will give up, state or federal, because you don't like it. They are exercising their rights as Americans.
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    #238

    Jun 18, 2013, 11:22 AM
    Then don't accuse us of having no middle ground . It's there where you find no compromise.
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    #239

    Jun 18, 2013, 11:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The LBGT community changed their minds and pushed it to the SCOTUS. I don't think they will give up, state or federal, because you don't like it. They are exercising their rights as Americans.
    So that's what you meant by "middle ground", having it imposed on us. See, I was right.
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    #240

    Jun 18, 2013, 11:42 AM
    That's the law imposing on you, not me.
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