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paraclete · Mar 21, 2013, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello Steve:

If they want ME to pay for THEIR health care, then you're DAMN right I'm gonna have a SAY in how they take care of the BODY that I'm paying for.

excon

Well go put all the junk food companies out of business

NeedKarma · Mar 21, 2013, 04:58 PM

Obviously the hypocrisy escapes you.

How were going to apply the principle in a similar fashion to what ex wrote?

paraclete · Mar 21, 2013, 06:09 PM

Ex thinks because he has to spend a dollar he has control of it, you gain more by giving people responsibility

NeedKarma · Mar 22, 2013, 01:49 AM

you gain more by giving people responsibility

Of that there is no doubt, I think we all agree. But looking at the obesity rate in the US we see that they make bad decisions.

paraclete · Mar 22, 2013, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Of that there is no doubt, I think we all agree. But looking at the obesity rate in the US we see that they make bad decisions.

So you have to provide them with better alternatives but you have to get rid of the sugar purveyors who are using it to hook consumers

speechlesstx · Mar 22, 2013, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

How were going to apply the principle in a similar fashion to what ex wrote?

Is it that hard to figure out?

If they want ME to pay for THEIR health care, then you're DAMN right I'm going to have a SAY in how they take care of the BODY that I'm paying for. -excon

NeedKarma · Mar 22, 2013, 06:31 AM

Is it that hard to figure out?

No, I mentioned it right here:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post3424525
But you got all butt-hurt. If that's not it then what was your idea to apply what he wrote?

speechlesstx · Mar 22, 2013, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Of that there is no doubt, I think we all agree. But looking at the obesity rate in the US we see that they make bad decisions.

Dude, your constant condescension toward your neighbor is annoying, but you really should realize we have access to what's going on in your own country.

It's time for government action on obesity

You've heard it already: Obesity is epidemic in Canada and is contributing to an increased prevalence of hypertension, diabetes, heart disease, stroke, cancer and other chronic conditions

Read more: It's time for government action on obesity

Looks like Canadians make poor choices, too. But why not when you pay for their health care, right?

speechlesstx · Mar 22, 2013, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

No, I mentioned it right here:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post3424525
But you got all butt-hurt. If that's not it then what was your idea to apply what he wrote?

To "have a SAY in how they take care of the BODY that I'm paying for."

Duh.

excon · Mar 22, 2013, 06:43 AM

Hello again, Steve:

I can't tell if you agree with me or not.. It IS a very conservative position, after all. It IS my money. I SHOULD have a say in how my "investment" is protected.

But, why then, shouldn't the PUBLIC have a say in how THEIR "investment" is protected? The same principal applies, does it not?

excon

NeedKarma · Mar 22, 2013, 06:46 AM

Looks like Canadians make poor choices, too. But why not when you pay for their health care, right?

What does Canada have to do with this discussion?

speechlesstx · Mar 22, 2013, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

What does Canada have to do with this discussion?

I made that perfectly clear in my post.

speechlesstx · Mar 22, 2013, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

I can't tell if you agree with me or not.. It IS a very conservative position, after all. It IS my money. I SHOULD have a say in how my "investment" is protected.

But, why then, shouldn't the PUBLIC have a say in how THEIR "investment" is protected?? The same principal applies, does it not?

excon

Do you believe we shouldn't interfere with a woman's "health care" choices?

NeedKarma · Mar 22, 2013, 07:05 AM

I see that but how does that affect ex's statement?

talaniman · Mar 22, 2013, 07:34 AM

Do you believe we shouldn't interfere with a woman's "health care" choices?

Hell to the YES!! And that goes for bosses and churches. Its none of their business what my or anyone's health care needs are. No one has a right to discriminate for any reason, be it fat, gay, or they way YOU plan your family, and I don't care what the POPE says about it.

Even if you don't believe in gay marriage the solution is simple, don't marry a gay person. But don't tell me who to marry. You don't believe in family planning, then don't plan your family, but leave mine alone.

You righties love to stick your nose in everyone else's business, and holler you have a right to do it. YOU DON'T.

End of Friday rant... carry on.

speechlesstx · Mar 22, 2013, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Hell to the YES!! And that goes for bosses and churches. Its none of their business what my or anyone's health care needs are. No one has a right to discriminate for any reason, be it fat, gay, or they way YOU plan your family, and I don't care what the POPE says about it.

Even if you don't believe in gay marriage the solution is simple, don't marry a gay person. But don't tell me who to marry. You don't believe in family planning, then don't plan your family, but leave mine alone.

You righties love to stick your nose in everyone else's business, and holler you have a right to do it. YOU DON'T.

End of Friday rant... carry on.

OK, here's the quote again...

If they want ME to pay for THEIR health care, then you're DAMN right I'm gonna have a SAY in how they take care of the BODY that I'm paying for. -excon

So I'm confused, do you guys believe you should have a say or not, or just for men and not women? Or what is it here?

talaniman · Mar 22, 2013, 08:23 AM

Do you believe we shouldn't interfere with a woman's "health care" choices?

That's the question I quoted and answered.

If they want ME to pay for THEIR health care, then you're DAMN right I'm going to have a SAY in how they take care of the BODY that I'm paying for. -excon

He has a right to say whatever he wants, just as you do Speech. We don't walk in lock step agreement on the progressive side, we just agree the far right has to be balanced and not interfere in OUR rights the way you are full hell bent to do.

The law is very clear, whether you agree or not, that there can be no discrimination. And there are legal remedies if there are.

speechlesstx · Mar 22, 2013, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Thats the question I quoted and answered.

He has a right to say whatever he wants, just as you do Speech. We don't walk in lock step agreement on the progressive side, we just agree the far right has to be balanced and not interfere in OUR rights the way you are full hell bent to do.

The law is very clear, whether you agree or not, that there can be no discrimination. And there are legal remedies if there are.

I was asking him.

cdad · Mar 22, 2013, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Hell to the YES!!!!!!!!!! And that goes for bosses and churches. Its none of their business what my or anyones health care needs are. No one has a right to discriminate for any reason, be it fat, gay, or they way YOU plan your family, and I don't care what the POPE says about it.

Even if you don't believe in gay marriage the solution is simple, don't marry a gay person. But don't tell me who to marry. You don't believe in family planning, then don't plan your family, but leave mine alone.

You righties love to stick your nose in everyone elses business, and holler you have a right to do it. YOU DON"T.

End of Friday rant.................carry on.

Oh really?? Then you might want to check this out as its coming to your workplace soon. Thanks obamacare!!

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tomder55 · Mar 22, 2013, 03:08 PM

Wait until they see the surcharge for using recreational pot .