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paraclete · Mar 20, 2013, 04:55 AM

Don't think this is going to get up

Tuttyd · Mar 20, 2013, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Government media watchdog ? Public interest test ? Sounds like you are travelling down the road to a Department of Disinformation to me . "all the news the government deems worthy to print" .

Because we don't want our media degenerating into the type of media you enjoy over there.

Tut

tomder55 · Mar 20, 2013, 05:30 AM

Yeah all that choice! Can't have that... Pravda... that's the ticket !

Tuttyd · Mar 20, 2013, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

yeah all that choice !! can't have that ..... Pravda ...that's the ticket !

If the stuff being posted here are examples of media, then we don't want this type of thing in Australia. We don't suffer from a media that tries to drive a massive wedge between the left and right. We don't have a massive divide between the left and right and we want to keep it that way. The worst of the stuff I have seen posted as news, panders to the worst type of populist tripe.

speechlesstx · Mar 20, 2013, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by Tuttyd

If the stuff being posted here are examples of media, then we don't want this type of thing in Australia. We don't suffer from a media that tries to drive a massive wedge between the left and right. We don't have a massive divide between the left and right and we want to keep it that way. The worst of the stuff I have seen posted as news, panders to the worst type of populist tripe.

Yes, a public interest media advocate sounds like the ticket.

tomder55 · Mar 20, 2013, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Tuttyd

If the stuff being posted here are examples of media, then we don't want this type of thing in Australia. We don't suffer from a media that tries to drive a massive wedge between the left and right. We don't have a massive divide between the left and right and we want to keep it that way. The worst of the stuff I have seen posted as news, panders to the worst type of populist tripe.

The problem is that you don't think the people are smart enough to make their choices... let the government decide what news the public can see. Great idea !

smoothy · Mar 20, 2013, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

The problem is that you don't think the people are smart enough to make their choices ... let the government decide what news the public can see. Great idea !

Which is amazingly like the DNC does using the lame stream media here...

You report what we tell you to report or we will take away your White house Press credentials... and yes.. the WHite house IS that petty they actually have threatened a number of journalists with doing exactly that.

speechlesstx · Mar 20, 2013, 12:49 PM

Speaking of haircuts, California is going after a retroactive tax grab. Seems they've decided they want $120 million back in tax breaks that were taken advantage of years ago. Nothing like offering a break only to demand it back, plus interest.

California's top-end taxpayers -- already steamed over a recent hike in the nation's highest state income tax -- are now fuming over a new $120 million retroactive tax grab on small business owners.

In December, the state's tax authority determined that a tax break claimed over the past few years by 2,500 entrepreneurs and stockholders of California-based small businesses is no longer valid and sent out notices of payment.

"How would you feel if you made a decision, which was made four years ago, (and) you absolutely knew was legally correct and four years later a governing body came in and said, 'no, it's not correct, now you owe us a bunch more money. And we're going to charge you interest on money you didn't even know you owed'," Brian Overstreet told Fox News from his office north of San Francisco.

Read more: California businesses fuming over retroactive $120M tax grab | Fox News

Nothing says "welcoming business environment" quite like a retroactive tax grab.

smoothy · Mar 20, 2013, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Speaking of haircuts, California is going after a retroactive tax grab. Seems they've decided they want $120 million back in tax breaks that were taken advantage of years ago. Nothing like offering a break only to demand it back, plus interest.

Nothing says "welcoming business environment" quite like a retroactive tax grab.

If they pull that off we should have retroactive elections and get rid of some politiions, the hell with elections not being due yet... ot the results of previous ones... Starting with HArry Ried, Nancy Pelosi Barbara Boxer and Diana Feinstein.

And Barrak Obama.

talaniman · Mar 20, 2013, 01:23 PM

Good luck with a do over, righties!

paraclete · Mar 20, 2013, 01:46 PM

What a load of old gobbligook, you know what they say? You are what you eat, or consume. No prizes for guessing what you guys are consuming

smoothy · Mar 20, 2013, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Good luck with a do over, righties!

Let enough businesses leave Kalifornistan for better parts and see how quick that can happen.

paraclete · Mar 20, 2013, 10:42 PM

The Ides of March thing is coming true in Australia, right now the governing party; Labor, is voting on the leadership after speculation that has been running for a week and calls by senior members for a spill. It is unlikely Krudd (Brutus) to Julia's (Caeser) will return, Crassus (Crean) has been busy

The party knows it cannot survive the next election and tearing itself apart as it is doing will not save them

paraclete · Mar 20, 2013, 10:55 PM

And it is all over and Krudd lives to continue his destabilisation. He will not be blamed for the electoral loss and will emerge triumphant after the election, he did the decent thing and allowed Julia to face the electorate, it cannot be said he goes back on his word I can't wait for his address over the corpse of caeser

Tuttyd · Mar 21, 2013, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Yes, a public interest media advocate sounds like the ticket.

You mean this brief history of Australian and overseas journalism that is light on details, but takes the trouble to throw in a few Orwellian type of analogies.

Tuttyd · Mar 21, 2013, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

The problem is that you don't think the people are smart enough to make their choices ... let the government decide what news the public can see. Great idea !

You seem to be a reflection of your media position on many issues. Taking the opportunity to draw a false dichotomy when ever possible. If you are going to draw a dichotomy then you may as well make it as gaping as possible.

You know the type of thing If we don't have a completely free press, then it must be a Soviet style operation.

The whole idea is to avoid drawing false dichotomies. The whole idea is to avoid creating a gaping rift between the left and right. You can have your style of media and we are happy to have ours.

talaniman · Mar 21, 2013, 06:30 AM

What if there is a real rift? Should they not report it? Trust me there IS a real rift between left and right in the US. A war of ideas, and purpose.

speechlesstx · Mar 21, 2013, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by Tuttyd

You mean this brief history of Australian and overseas journalism that is light on details, but takes the trouble to throw in a few Orwellian type of analogies.

From what I've seen I don't see your media as being all that different from ours other than the reach your state media has. Among your independent outlets I haven't seen much but disdain for the proposed regulations. I wonder why.

Tuttyd · Mar 21, 2013, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

What if there is a real rift? Should they not report it? Trust me there IS a real rift between left and right in the US. A war of ideas, and purpose.

You are pretty close to the mark. Except society didn't create the rift. The rift was created by the media.

Yes, they should report it and they do. Yes,it is a war of ideas, but it isn't a war of purpose. It is an ideological war.

talaniman · Mar 21, 2013, 01:16 PM

The purpose Tut, is to set a direction for the future. The media is Americans too. Some are more biased than others.