[talaniman]

I don't see anyone running from me, they LOVE me.

So do I Speech but you aren't a republican Tparty far right wing conservative on TV, and radio, talking about everybody like their dogs.

[speechlesstx]

So do I Speech but you aren't a republican Tparty far right wing conservative on TV, and radio, talking about everybody like their dogs.

I haven't seen that either, it isn't the right that's thrown civility out the window.

[smoothy]

There is already have a white caucus, in not only government, but every other institution in the country. There is also political parties that represents white interests,its called the republican party,with rich white guys, and the TParty, with middle class white people with rich guys giving money for elections locally, and nationally.



I wonder why that would be that every non white, and female would run like hell from you? Any clues?



It isn't racism, its self defense. I didn't think you had a clue!

IF we can't call it that... then it isn't that.

[talaniman]

I haven't seen that either, it isn't the right that's thrown civility out the window.

IF we can't call it that....then it isn't that.

Just trying to give you guys a clue, since you didn't seem to have one.

[smoothy]

So.. by your argument the demoKrats are all part of the AmeriKan Socialist Movement too... because they don't have to actually declare it to be part of it.

[talaniman]

That makes no sense what so ever. I was trying to explain why YOU guys aren't very well liked by anyone but yourselves. Don't blame anyone but YOURSELF for that. Declare all you want, or NOT.

No big deal.

[speechlesstx]

Just trying to give you guys a clue, since you didn't seem to have one.

I have a clue, I also have principles.

That makes no sense what so ever. I was trying to explain why YOU guys aren't very well liked by anyone but yourselves. Don't blame anyone but YOURSELF for that. Declare all you want, or NOT.

No big deal.

Like I said, I have principles. I don't pander to promote myself, my agenda or be liked. I don't try and buy people for votes, I don't grandstand to show how awesome I am and build on my faux legacy. I help others out of love, and I get plenty of love in return. You can have the masses you bought, the people holding their hand out for "Obama money," I'll take the love every time over the superficial bullsh*t that makes up the progressive movement.

[smoothy]

That makes no sense what so ever. I was trying to explain why YOU guys aren't very well liked by anyone but yourselves. Don't blame anyone but YOURSELF for that. Declare all you want, or NOT.

No big deal.

You've just proven liberals are legends in their own minds.

[NeedKarma]

I don't pander to promote myself, my agenda or be liked. I don't try and buy people for votes, I don't grandstand to show how awesome I am and build on my faux legacy. I help others out of love, and I get plenty of love in return. You can have the masses you bought,

That is true of both parties equally.

[speechlesstx]

That is true of both parties equally.

Not at all, conservatives believe in policies that help people help themselves, liberals believe government is the answer to everything. Conservatives encourage success, liberals punish success.

[NeedKarma]

You answered me by changing the subject. I'm saying your politicians also do all the things I put in the quotes that you said - and it's true. Your distorted oversimplification of a complex issue adds nothing but creating another boring meaningless talking point.

[paraclete]

Not at all, conservatives believe in policies that help people help themselves, liberals believe government is the answer to everything. Conservatives encourage success, liberals punish success.

Don't you ever get tired of mouthing the party line? Helping people is not punishing success, what is punishing success is exporting a successful industry to China so you can make more profit

[smoothy]

Don't you ever get tired of mouthing the party line? Helping people is not punishing success, what is punishing success is exporting a successful industry to China so you can make more profit

Taxing the 53% more heavily to subsidize freebies for the 47% who pay no federal taxes IS punishing success and rewarding failure.

THe only FAIR tax is a flat tax... where EVERYONE pays an equal percentage share of their income.

And any argument to the contrary is arguing FOR punishing success... to reward the people who are failures.

[Wondergirl]

Taxing the 53% more heavily to subsidize freebies for the 47% who pay no federal taxes IS punishing success and rewarding failure.

Many of those 47% are over 62 and are getting S.S. I am one of them. What freebies am I getting?

[cdad]

Many of those 47% are over 62 and are getting S.S. I am one of them. What freebies am I getting?

The Surprising Facts About Mitt Romney's 47% Who Pay No Income Tax - DailyFinance

[smoothy]

Many of those 47% are over 62 and are getting S.S. I am one of them. What freebies am I getting?

There are lots of freebies... far too many. Everyone should pay their fair share... if they did.. they wouldn't be so gung ho about getting free stuff that others have to pay for.

Everyone wants something if someone else will be paying for it.

And incidentally... most people on SSI paid into it their entire working lives... and as far as I'm concerned... unless you have SEVERE handicaps that preclude being able to work (fat and lazy isn't a handicap)... or unless you are retirement age.. you shouldn't be getting it.

And yes there ARE a lot of people scamming it... I've seen people faking it going into the SSI office like they are crippled and coming out later like they are heading to the gym...

Older Illegals who never paid a dime into the system that have gained citizenship through amnesty programs are collecting SSI while those of us who have paid 30+ years are being told we have to wait longer IF we are going to get anything at all...

And those aren't mythical.. I know a couple of them... and they can't be the only ones.

And that link is posted by a lefty org for the sole purpose to slam Romney... there are a LOT of people through credits and allowances and special deductions that not only pay no Federal taxes... but they get extra money handed to them.

State Taxes aren't Federal taxes, county taxes aren't Federal taxes, none of those go to the federal government... but Federal taxes are where the money for the government freebies all comes from. That's the Obama Dollars all the welfare people think they are entitled to.

[talaniman]

So treat the needy like the greedy? How do you know which is which?

[Wondergirl]

And yes there ARE a lot of people scamming it... I've seen people faking it going into the SSI office like they are crippled and coming out later like they are heading to the gym...

How many of those DID receive free money and weren't found out?

And that link is posted by a lefty org for the sole purpose to slam Romney... there are a LOT of people through credits and allowances and special deductions that not only pay no Federal taxes... but they get extra money handed to them.

Who? My autistic son who has a part-time job (for nearly 25 years), makes under $10 an hour, and gets an earned-income check once a year?

State Taxes aren't Federal taxes, county taxes aren't Federal taxes, none of those go to the federal government... but Federal taxes are where the money for the government freebies all comes from. That's the Obama Dollars all the welfare people think they are entitled to.

[paraclete]

Taxing the 53% more heavily to subsidize freebies for the 47% who pay no federal taxes IS punishing success and rewarding failure.

THe only FAIR tax is a flat tax....where EVERYONE pays an equal percentage share of their income.

And any argument to the contrary is arguing FOR punishing success....to reward the people who are failures.

OK taxation is theft, but you elected the government and gave them the power, you want a fair tax implement a consumption tax and cut back income tax, about 20% each way ort to do it but don't complain at the outcome and put a luxury tax on imported auto's, furniture...

[smoothy]

ok taxation is theft, but you elected the government and gave them the power, you want a fair tax implement a consumption tax and cut back income tax, about 20% each way ort to do it but don't complain at the outcome and put a luxury tax on imported auto's, furniture.....

Why should the successful be punished for working harder? To reward the lazy for not working as hard.

The poor should pay and equal percentage as the rich... period... see how many people like the "freebies" when THEY have to foot a part of the bill.

Nothing like having skin in the game to level the playing field.