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    #741

    Oct 23, 2012, 01:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    How would you know Tal, you refuse to give it a chance.
    No one in this thread has objected to voter ID. In fact, everyone has been for it. The objection has been to the timing and process of it.
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    #742

    Oct 23, 2012, 02:10 PM
    Tal can speak for himself.
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    #743

    Oct 23, 2012, 02:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    How would you know Tal, you refuse to give it a chance.
    I haven't refused at all, just DEMAND the process of implementation be fair and efficient!!

    You think its okay to bake a cake using MUD??
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    Oct 23, 2012, 03:31 PM
    As long as we leave the elections to partisans, this stuff is going to happen. I think TUT called for nationalization of the elections.. That may NOT be a bad idea.
    I don't believe nationalization is a constitutional option
    Is there anything the left doesn't want nationalized ? Health care ,the auto industry ,education ;and now elections .
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    Oct 23, 2012, 03:43 PM
    Hello again, tom:

    I'm a free market kind of guy... I ALSO support the Constitution. But, I'm not STUPID. I believe in local control until local control sticks it up my a$$.. Then it's time for the feds to step in... That's true in health care, and that's true in local elections... I'm reminded of the federal troops that stepped in when Alabama was sticking it up my a$$ too. I LOVED it.

    I believe YOUR side is the one who's sniveling about the integrity of the vote... You should champion nationalization.. But, you don't want integrity... You want the dirty tricks playing field left to yourself..

    excon
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    Oct 23, 2012, 03:53 PM
    Nope ;I want integrity of the franchise . That means ID . That means taking dead people off the voter rolls . But of course if you turn a blind eye to the problem you will never see the problem.
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    #747

    Oct 23, 2012, 03:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    nope ;I want integrity of the franchise . That means ID . That means taking dead people off the voter rolls . But of course if you turn a blind eye to the problem you will never see the problem.
    We are all in favor of voter ID.
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    Oct 23, 2012, 03:56 PM
    Tom I don't think you need to worry about dead people on the rolls, it's the zombies you elect you have to worry about
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    Oct 23, 2012, 04:19 PM
    Operative linked to voter registration fraud still working for GOP? - Salon.com

    Integrity? Of course Acorn was defunded for less, but this guy is still getting paid. Where is the integrity?

    We know where it ain't though!
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    #750

    Oct 24, 2012, 06:58 AM
    We are all in favor of voter ID.
    I don't buy it one bit.
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    #751

    Oct 24, 2012, 07:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I don't buy it one bit.
    Me neither since in the 1st 60+ response the argument was against the need for one

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/3183557-post66.html
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    #752

    Oct 24, 2012, 09:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Me neither since in the 1st 60+ response the argument was against the need for one

    Ask Me Help Desk - View Single Post - Voter ID/Suppression
    That was not a vote against it.
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    #753

    Oct 24, 2012, 10:00 AM
    Why would someone argue there is no need for one while supporting it anyway? Doesn't make sense. At all.
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    #754

    Oct 24, 2012, 10:10 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Have you ever heard of the word, process? I think not.

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    #755

    Oct 24, 2012, 10:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Why would someone argue there is no need for one while supporting it anyway? Doesn't make sense. At all.
    There is "no need for it" two months before an election.
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    #756

    Oct 24, 2012, 10:22 AM
    Have either of you ever heard of the word "dodge."
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    Oct 24, 2012, 10:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Have either of you ever heard of the word "dodge."
    Dodge what? You don't do something so complicated just before an election. You do it a year or more ahead of time so everyone who is eligible to vote can do so in the future.
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    #758

    Oct 24, 2012, 10:33 AM
    Well that answered my question.
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    #759

    Oct 24, 2012, 11:55 AM
    No your answer is the one the courts have been telling you, go back to the drawing board and get a better process going.

    Obama and the democrats are not the ones rejecting your new law, the COURTS did. They just pointed out the flaws and inefficiencies and the court obviously agreed!
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    #760

    Oct 25, 2012, 03:10 AM
    What is a resonable time frame ? The PA law was passed in the spring. I suspect the time frame would've been fine any other year . Your guys played prevent defense and delay... and then complain there isn't enough time .

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