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    #201

    Sep 6, 2011, 04:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I hear some wacko shot up an IHOP and killed two and injured six in Carson City, NV before taking his own life. My condolences to the victims of this senseless tragedy.

    I have to ask though, was the perp motivated by Hoffa's remarks?
    Jimmy Hoffa is a blowhard.

    Want to bet this nutcase in NV turns out to be a registered democrat, probably voted for Prince Harry? The silence by the drive by media is telling me he just might be.
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    #202

    Sep 6, 2011, 05:24 PM
    The shooter was motivated by Palin's remarks to put them in their gunsights. The silence by the media validates my claim.
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    Sep 6, 2011, 05:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The shooter was motivated by Palin's remarks to put them in their gunsights. The silence by the media validates my claim.
    Gee... and the fact DEMOCRATS were using gunsights in political ads targeting republicans and the same terminology BEFORE Sarah Palin ever came on the scene means nothing? Or is this more democrat Propaganda backed up with no facts at all?
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    #204

    Sep 6, 2011, 05:32 PM
    Hahahahhahha... when you have you ever provided facts for any of your statements? You are the LAST person that should be denlmanding facts from others.

    Edit to prove you are lying: http://twitpic.com/3o7j5z
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    Sep 6, 2011, 06:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Gee....and the fact DEMOCRATS were using gunsights in political ads targeting republicans and the same terminology BEFORE Sarah Palin ever came on the scene means nothing? Or is this more democrat Propaganda backed up with no facts at all?
    Fact is the left hates Palin as much as the right hates Obama, so you should understand the left throwing darts at her, just as you throw darts at the left. TIT fot TAT (no pun intended?)
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    #206

    Sep 6, 2011, 08:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The shooter was motivated by Palin's remarks to put them in their gunsights. The silence by the media validates my claim.
    The shooter was a nut job and you connecting Palin to it puts you in the same category. The media is silent because they have no facts, the stories say there is no clear apparent motive

    Speaking of nut jobs I see Palin wants to do away with corporate income tax and fix loopholes in the corporate tax system. I would have thought one negated the other
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    #207

    Sep 7, 2011, 02:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    The shooter was a nut job and you connecting Palin to it puts you in the same category. The media is silent becuase they have no facts, the stories say there is no clear apparent motive
    Satire... I was parroting speech and smoothy to show how ignorant their statements are.
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    Sep 7, 2011, 03:22 AM
    Speaking of nut jobs I see Palin wants to do away with corporate income tax and fix loopholes in the corporate tax system. I would have thought one negated the other
    Palin made a substansive policy statement that deserves a lot more coverage than it got. Along with making corporations responsible for their actions(no too big to fail nonsense ) ,and her tax proposal which would go along way to eliminate the incentive for corporations to lobby for tax breaks ,she is half way to ending the crony relationship between corporations and politicians . The last 2 step would be revisting over regulation ,and term limits .

    Have not heard all the details of the shooting .Last report I read was that the shooter targeted National Guard troops at the IHOP . A profile is emerging . That the shooting followed several hate fill speeches by the left wing is most likely coincidence.
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    Sep 7, 2011, 04:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Satire...I was parroting speech and smoothy to show how ignorant their statements are.
    I was merely applying the "logic" used by the left after the Tucson shooting to this tragedy. You mean such "logic" is ignorant? I love it when you unwittingly make my point. I appreciate that.
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    #210

    Sep 7, 2011, 04:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    You mean such "logic" is ignorant?
    Yup.
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    Sep 7, 2011, 04:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Palin made a substansive policy statement that deserves alot more coverage than it got. Along with making corporations responsible for their actions(no too big to fail nonsense ) ,and her tax proposal which would go along way to eliminate the incentive for corporations to lobby for tax breaks ,she is half way to ending the crony relationship between corporations and politicians . The last 2 step would be revisting over regulation ,and term limits .

    Have not heard all the details of the shooting .Last report I read was that the shooter targetted National Guard troops at the IHOP . A profile is emerging . That the shooting followed several hate fill speeches by the left wing is most likely coincidence.
    Here we go, populist politics at it's best. How do you end the crony relationship between corporations and politicians? You do away with lobbying. Can't see that happening because the system is inherently corrupt. By all means remove corporate taxation but don't remove taxation of dividends at the same time. Just carve those sections dealing with corporations right out and create a tax haven right there in little old USA, then everyone would have their own corporation and no one would pay tax, great thinking there Sarah.

    As to the shooting, very regretable event but the weapon used, an assault rifle in the hands of an ordinary person and a foreign made one at that, how does the rifle association justify that?
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    #212

    Sep 7, 2011, 04:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Fact is the left hates Palin as much as the right hates Obama, so you should understand the left throwing darts at her, just as you throw darts at the left. TIT fot TAT (no pun intended?)
    True... but you also have to look at who dragged the darts out of the closet in the first place. And that was the left before Palin was ever heard of outside Alaska.


    That's akin to yelling at the guy next to you for cutting the cheese after you already did it a few times and joked about it.
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    Sep 7, 2011, 07:03 AM
    CLete dividends should not be subject to taxation anyway.. or at least not at the corporate level. The investor should probably have dividends taxed however at normal income rates (then Buffet could pay the rates he claims he should be taxed at ).
    I think there is a lot to like about Palin's plan. Add to that her strong support of energy development in the US and she has the beginnings of a strong platform.
    Romney came up with a proposal yesterday that I have not had time to look over . I expect it's his same milquetoast that the Obots already have answers for.
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    Sep 7, 2011, 09:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    True......but you also have to look at who dragged the darts out of the closet in the first place. And that was the left before Palin was ever heard of outside Alaska.


    Thats akin to yelling at the guy next to you for cutting the cheese after you already did it a few times and joked about it.
    They been throwing darts since the Declaration of Independence. Why is it a big deal now?

    Plus you like throwing darts, I do too! Its fun. Admit it.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    CLete dividends should not be subject to taxation anyway ..or at least not at the corporate level. The investor should probably have dividends taxed however at normal income rates (then Buffet could pay the rates he claims he should be taxed at ).
    I think there is alot to like about Palin's plan. Add to that her strong support of energy development in the US and she has the beginnings of a strong platform.
    Romney came up with a proposal yesterday that I have not had time to look over . I expect it's his same milquetoast that the Obots already have answers for.
    Why are you so convinced that profit is the answer to all our problems??
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    #215

    Sep 7, 2011, 09:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    They been throwing darts since the Declaration of Independence. Why is it a big deal now?

    Plus you like throwing darts, I do too!! Its fun. Admit it.


    Well... its all about The Democrats ignoring the fact they used bulls-eye targets on ALL major republicans for some time... but singling out one republican they fear to blame when they did the same thing that was routine for them... its the old people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones thing.

    Yeah... I like darts... haven't done it for some time, but yeah, with the right people, a few beers, its fun.
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    Sep 7, 2011, 10:01 AM
    That's right wing talk smoothy, both parties are the same as far as method goes. You just like Sarah, so you throw darts in her defense. Come on man, fess up!

    Sarah's farts stink as bad as Obamas, you know it, I know it. She has a cuter butt, but the farts still stink!!

    What?? You saying they don't?? DUDE!!
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    Sep 7, 2011, 10:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Thats right wing talk smoothy, both parties are the same as far as method goes.

    What????? You saying they don't??? DUDE!!!!!!
    Hello again, tal:

    See, here's where WE miscalculate... We think the wingers are just as reasonable as WE are. We think they'll SEE that BOTH sides act the same... We think they really KNOW what's going on.

    But, they WON'T, DON'T, and AREN'T. YES, they think Sarah farts are rose scented breezes..

    excon
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    Sep 7, 2011, 10:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Thats right wing talk smoothy, both parties are the same as far as method goes. You just like Sarah, so you throw darts in her defense. Come on man, fess up!!

    Sarah's farts stink as bad as Obamas, you know it, I know it. She has a cuter butt, but the farts still stink!!!

    What????? You saying they don't??? DUDE!!!!!!
    BUT you are ignoring the point... the lefties are pretending the Democrats never, ever did such a thing when evidence abounds they did it far more.

    That's like one looter turning in another looter because they swiped a bigger TV they wanted to come back for.
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    Sep 7, 2011, 10:34 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tal:

    See, here's where WE miscalculate... We think the wingers are just as reasonable as WE are. We think they'll SEE that BOTH sides act the same... We think they really KNOW what's going on.

    But, they WON'T, DON'T, and AREN'T. YES, they think Sarah farts are rose scented breezes..

    excon
    Gee... then why doesn't your Dear Leeder practice what he preachs... or demand his minions do the same, we know you think the Messiah is above demands made on mere mortals..

    This would be almost comical if you guys weren't so serious that your guys can say and do absolutely anything and you accept it as being right and proper... but get so indignant when someone else does the very same thing.
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    #220

    Sep 7, 2011, 10:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    ....the lefties are pretending the Democrats never, ever did such a thing when evidence abounds they did it far more.
    [citation needed]

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