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    Oct 23, 2010, 05:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    Well lets see. I dont have a problem reading what you have written. But try that with some of the ones you have been texting with or the teens at the mall and that is a different story. Look around AMHD and you will see its running rampant. Imagine what job applications look like.
    I get what you're saying and I agree, but have a little more faith. I get most texts from them in regular English.
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    #62

    Oct 23, 2010, 05:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    And why would that be?
    They respond.
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    #63

    Oct 23, 2010, 05:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by TUT317 View Post
    The cost to both of us is the same. This is what equity is all about.
    Equity is a myth, there will always be winners and losers and sometimes that's the same person. It's isn't fair to hold me back from my potential because someone else wasn't as fortunate or industrious is it?
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    Oct 23, 2010, 05:36 AM

    When faced with the public good question its almost impossible to find a definition that is universal when applied. There are extreme examples like China and its limits on children to movies that portray a future that we may face like soylent green. If the "public good" is about the bottom dollar then we have nowhere to turn but the accountants. Add to the mix the compassion of the public and the lines move all over the place. The bottom line is freedom is rarely free. But when we leave the nest we don't need governmental parents hovering over us for the rest of our lives either.

    Side note: The virus that Im speaking of in previous post was the aides virus. And at the time when it first appeared there was discussion of quarantine of the persons infected. As horrible as it sounds we now bare the costs for our decisions.

    2004 Report on the global AIDS epidemic - 4th global report - Financing the response to AIDS
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    Oct 23, 2010, 05:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    The virus that Im speaking of in previous post was the aides virus. And at the time when it first appeared there was discussion of quarantine of the persons infected. As horrible as it sounds we now bare the costs for our decisions.
    I knew exactly what you were referring to. Political correctness was determined to be the "public good."
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    #66

    Oct 23, 2010, 06:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The 'free market' is a tool of free people.It allows for the free exchange of goods and services between free people .It's win win . Your friend comes to an agreement between himself and the person he's purchasing the service from ...both win . Let's not talk in absolutes here because I already conceeded that dependent people depend on the good will of others.
    HI again Tom,

    In an ideal world maybe, but economic rationalism is just that. A rationalist argument

    Australia went down that part in the 70's it has long since been rejected or modified. We realized that like most rationalist positions we can't pull ourselves up by out own boot straps. We also took into consideration the social costs.

    Any idea of good will of others doesn't apply when it comes to a significant portion of the Australian population. Again, were are still largely an egalitarian society.




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    Oct 23, 2010, 06:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Equity is a myth, there will always be winners and losers and sometimes that's the same person. It's isn't fair to hold me back from my potential because someone else wasn't as fortunate or industrious is it?
    Hi speech,

    Yes, it is a myth, but it is no less a myth than economic rationalism. If you are saying that a myth is something than has no basis in experience then, yes> both can be regarded as a myth. In your country you can strive for unobtainable economic rationalism. In Australia we strive for unobtainable equity. I know which one I'd rather aim for.

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    #68

    Oct 23, 2010, 07:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Really? We're going to ban a fresh vegetable for hungry children?
    Hello again, Steve:

    I'm having trouble with your hypocrisy... It's OK with you to ban marijuana, apparently for the public good, but you don't want to ban crap food from your children - I guess because you either don't see the danger in crap food for kids, or you want to make that decision for yourself...

    But, you're happy with the nanny state telling you that you can't smoke pot?? I'm sorry. I don't get it... Maybe that's because I CHOSE to smoke a big joint before I posted this. But, my being stoned isn't what's causing my confusion... It's really your hypocrisy... I'd like to call it something else, Steve, because I know you'll be offended having been called a hypocrite... But, there's NO other word for it...

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    #69

    Oct 23, 2010, 09:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I get what you're saying and I agree, but have a little more faith. I get most texts from them in regular English.
    Regular English? The whole point of texting is to abbreviate -- before = before and 2 = too/to/two and u = you. Your coworkers text and spell everything out in "regular English"?
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    Oct 23, 2010, 10:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Regular English? The whole point of texting is to abbreviate -- b4 = before and 2 = too/to/two and u = you. Your coworkers text and spell everything out in "regular English"?
    Thank you for the education on texting. :rolleyes:

    There is no "whole point" of texting other than to send someone a message. Since phones now have keyboards it's not the pain in the a$$ it used to be to type a message. I said what I meant before and I meant what I said, them's the facts.
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    #71

    Oct 23, 2010, 10:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Thank you for the education on texting.
    So you are exchanging texting, not "regular English," with coworkers. Got it!
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    Oct 23, 2010, 10:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Regular English? The whole point of texting is to abbreviate
    It used to be but with predictive text technologies that most modern come equipped with much of the abbreviations have vanished.
    Here's an example of a similar phone to mine:
    YouTube - HTC Desire Predictive Text
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    Oct 23, 2010, 10:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    It used to be but with predictive text technologies that most modern come equipped with much of the abbreviations have vanished.
    Here's an example of a similar phone to mine:
    YouTube - HTC Desire Predictive Text
    The person typing was actually literate and knew the difference between "it's" and "its" and between "then" and "than" and actually used punctuation. It was like his third grade teacher was looking over his shoulder and helping him press buttons. Most people use cell phones, and not fancy equipment that cost a lot. I'm not impressed.
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    Oct 23, 2010, 11:02 AM
    Well my HTC Magic cost me $79 and it opened us up to geocaching so it's money well spent for us. The old texting with numeric keypads is quickly going away.
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    Oct 23, 2010, 11:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well my HTC Magic cost me $79 and it opened us up to geocaching so it's money well spent for us. The old texting with numeric keypads is quickly going away.
    Plus, you're already literate.
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    Oct 23, 2010, 11:06 AM
    You're a sweetee. :)
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    Oct 23, 2010, 11:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Your a sweetee. :)
    Hmmm, I may take that back.
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    #78

    Oct 23, 2010, 03:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    So you are exchanging texting, not "regular English," with coworkers. Got it!
    Please, stop speaking for me. I meant what I said and it was correct the first time.
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    #79

    Oct 23, 2010, 03:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    I'm having trouble with your hypocrisy..
    Ex, these days you get your panties in a wad no matter what I say.

    But, you're happy with the nanny state telling you that you can't smoke pot?? I'm sorry. I don't get it...
    That's because no one is asking kids to smoke potatoes.
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    Nov 3, 2010, 06:40 AM
    S.F. Supes Pass Happy Meal Ban with Veto-Proof Majority

    Pathetic.

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