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Just_Another_Lemming · Sep 9, 2010, 03:21 PM

BTW Excon, do you think it was wrong for me to call the Pastor stating I was a rep for the Imam, we were going to move the site from ground zero, and invite him up for a little chat on Saturday?:rolleyes:

tomder55 · Sep 9, 2010, 04:11 PM

Yeah I just heard this story on Chris Matthew's "Screwball" .

This 'pastor' is a nut job no doubt about it.

I think the FBI did some arm twisting . We may never know the whole story.

Catsmine · Sep 9, 2010, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Just_Another_Lemming

BTW excon, do you think it was wrong for me to call the Pastor stating I was a rep for the Imam, we were going to move the site from ground zero, and invite him up for a little chat on Saturday?:rolleyes:

Wish I could give greenies in discussion threads.

tomder55 · Sep 9, 2010, 04:32 PM

On "screwball" they are blaming General P for stoking the controversy.

tomder55 · Sep 9, 2010, 04:40 PM

Now Matthews just called burning Korans the equivalent of 'shouting fire in the crowded theater' . In other words there may be a case to make a 1st amendment exception . Would he say the same about flag burning ;or emersing a crucifix in a jar of urine and calling it art ?

tomder55 · Sep 9, 2010, 04:47 PM

Matthews just reported that the nut pastor is only suspending the Koran burnings because he has no guarantee of a beer summit and pig roast with Rauf .

Catsmine · Sep 9, 2010, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Matthews just reported that the nut pastor is only suspending the Koran burnings because he has no guarantee of a beer summit and pig roast with Rauf .

JAL, quick! Call him again.

paraclete · Sep 9, 2010, 05:10 PM

Well the troops are out of danger now so what excuse will there be now for casualties?

smoothy · Sep 9, 2010, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

well the troops are out of danger now so what excuse will there be now for casualties?

My thoughts exactly... damn if only we knew 30 years ago if this Pastor would have threatened to burn Korans in the future and insult the Terrorists we could have stopped him then and they would never have done anything over the last 30 years.

I suppose now Hamas, Hezbolah, Al Queda, The Taliban and who knows what other groups are going to disband now that the earth shattering event is over.

Or maybe they are just blowing smoke... again and that was a lame excuse.

paraclete · Sep 9, 2010, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Or maybe they are just blowing smoke.......again and that was a lame excuse.

Who is you think was blowing smoke? The Generals? The Muslims? The Pastor?

I think the whole thing is a bit limp

smoothy · Sep 9, 2010, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Who is you think was blowing smoke? the Generals? the Muslims? the Pastor?

I think the whole thing is a bit limp

The Muslims... they would be threatening us and killing us because we aren't Muslim. They don't need an excuse and if there was a bonfire or not this weekend, nothing would be different. Its been going on since the Marine Barraks in Lebonon under Regan.

Funny that when John Gotti made statements of if you don't do what I want bad things might happen... they could charge him with making criminal threats under the RICO act... if a Muslim does it... Obama ignores it. And Islam makes the Mafia look like a Cub Scout Troop.

Now the Pastor has the constitutional right to do what he threatened to do... and every muslim with their panties in a knot can take their Quaran and shove it up their collective butts... because they started this... if anyone needs to make a gesture of good faith its them.

Now as far as the General goes.. Personally he should not have uttered a word... funny, its fine with the code to Parrot Obama... but its somehow against some code to mention the same topic if you are the slightest bit different in opinion..

I think there is a great degree of butt kissing going on there... why I can't guess. I'd retire before I'd let that clueless moron in the Whitehouse tell me how to do my job. And my opinion Between Patraeus and Obama... only one has a clue about anything. And its not obama.

talaniman · Sep 9, 2010, 06:53 PM

I got no time for burning books in Florida, to celebrate 9/11. I got an invite to a beer bash in Alaska with Dame Sarah, and Father Glen, so could someone loan me 200 bucks??

paraclete · Sep 9, 2010, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Now the Pastor has the constitutional right to do what he threatened to do....and every muslim with their panties in a knot can take their Quaran and shove it up their collective butts....because they started this....if anyone needs to make a gesture of good faith its them.

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But they have made a gesture of good faith, they want to bless you with a mosque at ground zero, an interfaith house, which is somewhat un-muslim. That you respond by saying we would rather burn the quoran, which is less offensive than what you suggest be done with it, is hardly the point. When will you learn you are dealing with what are essentially uneducated brainwashed peasants whose only response to anything they don't like is to riot and burn flags.

I say go ahead, call their bluff and burn the quoran. Stand up and be counted, in fact as a gesture of good faith give them the flags to burn

tomder55 · Sep 10, 2010, 02:27 AM

an interfaith house,

Yeah right. I see a line of Hasidim going there to use the swimming pool already.

Catsmine · Sep 10, 2010, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

I got no time for burning books in Florida, to celebrate 9/11. I got an invite to a beer bash in Alaska with Dame Sarah, and Father Glen, so could someone loan me 200 bucks???

If you can give me a ride.

smoothy · Sep 10, 2010, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

But they have made a gesture of good faith, they want to bless you with a mosque at ground zero, an interfaith house, which is somewhat un-muslim. That you respond by saying we would rather burn the quoran, which is less offensive than what you suggest be done with it, is hardly the point. When will you learn you are dealing with what are essentially uneducated brainwashed peasants whose only response to anything they don't like is to riot and burn flags.

I say go ahead, call their bluff and burn the quoran. Stand up and be counted, in fact as a gesture of good faith give them the flags to burn

THey call Demanding we let them build a mosque on ground zero... (and this site was hit and damaged by the langing gear of one of the jets so essentually this IS ground zero as well) or they will kill Americans...

Yeah... thats making a gesture, and actually, its VERY Muslim to do. THe Quaran calls for this very thing.

There is no Christian or Jew... that will ever go to a Mosque to pray. Just isn't going to happen any more than a Muslim going to a Temple or Church to pray.

WHat would I say and do if I was President?

From this day forward... any new mosque construction in the USA will proceed ONLY after a Church or temple of equal size and desireability of location is contructed in Medina and Mecca, and other sites as determined by American religious leaders... also, travel restrictions, and laws prohibiting Bibles and non-muslims in Muslim countries will also be matched here, as you will be arrested for trying to smuggle Bibles into Saudi Arabia, where bibles are frequently burned when found, and no non-muslim is permitted to travel in Medina or Mecca.

THey obviously will counter , Well that's Saudi Arabia and they make their own rules as a cop-out. Well, this is OUR country and WE make the rules here.

Tit for Tat. How more fair can that be.

excon · Sep 10, 2010, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Tit for Tat. How more fair can that be.

Hello again, smoothy:

Fair, but UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I thought you tea partiers LOVE the Constitution... But, when push comes to shove, you really don't. You talk the talk, but you don't walk the walk. THAT is the problem here.

Didn't I read a post or two ago where you ranted about how SIMPLE the Constitution is to understand?? They didn't use big words and wrote it so EVERYBODY could understand it... I guess you only want to apply it WHEN it suits you. That's not very American. Being a good American is HARD.

excon

smoothy · Sep 10, 2010, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

Fair, but UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I thought you tea partiers LOVE the Constitution.... But, when push comes to shove, you really don't. You talk the talk, but you don't walk the walk. THAT is the problem here.

Didn't I read a post or two ago where you ranted about how SIMPLE the Constitution is to understand??? They didn't use big words and wrote it so EVERYBODY could understand it... I guess you only want to apply it WHEN it suits you. That's not very American. Being a good American is HARD.

excon

Really... SO you think the WTO is unconstitutional too?

Its NO different.

Contrary to what the left thinks...

Muslims don't have ANY special rights.

tomder55 · Sep 10, 2010, 05:16 AM

Not to worry .Rev Yosemite Sam will have a beer summit with Iman Rauf tomorrow at Ground Zero and all the world's problems will be solved .

smoothy · Sep 10, 2010, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Not to worry .Rev Yosemite Sam will have a beer summit with Iman Rauf tomorrow at Ground Zero and all the world's problems will be solved .

Exactly... all the terrorists are going to disband, so there will be peace in the middle east, nobody will be shooting at out troops... all because one Pastor didn't burn a book.

Oh wait... they were doing this since longe BEFORE this Pastor threatened to do exactly what Muslims do on a regular basis to OUR holy books.

But they will probibly drink Doogh... which if you have ever tried it is a salted yogurt drink that tastes like spoiled milk. God aweful stuff.