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    Nov 6, 2008, 08:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    J9 they just reported that on the radio . Evidently the sale of guns cannot keep up with supply since yesterday.
    Tom, it started earlier than yesterday. You should see our showroom, virtually empty since two weeks ago and no end in sight.
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    Nov 6, 2008, 08:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by 450donn View Post
    Simply look to the North and see a failed health care system of Canada.
    You are sadly misinformed and spout stuff off the top of your head like it's a fact. I live in Canada and the universal healthcare system is far from failed. We are quite happy with it. Of course now someone will Google for every little hiccup that someone has had with our system and that's OK. At least everyone is covered and it's one less worry in our world. Oddly enough just because we have universal healthcare it doesn't seem to mean that we have a exorbitant unemployment rate as your theory stipulates.
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    Nov 6, 2008, 08:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Tom, it started earlier than yesterday. You should see our showroom, virtually empty since two weeks ago and no end in sight.
    Are you guys expecting a civil war??
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    Nov 6, 2008, 08:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You are sadly misinformed and spout stuff off the top of your head like it's a fact. I live in Canada and the universal healthcare system is far from failed. We are quite happy with it. Of course now someone will google for every little hiccup that someone has had with our system and that's ok. At least everyone is covered and it's one less worry in our world. Oddly enough just because we have universal healthcare it doesn't seem to mean that we have a exorbitant unemployment rate as your theory stipulates.
    If your wonderful universal healthcare system is so great why is it that so many Canadians, at least those than can afford it come to the USA to get the surgeries that are denied or postponed in Canada. In every small town across Canada the clinics are either permanently closed or only staffed my a nurse one or two days a week. That people have to wait months of an operation to save their lives? Yea, it is great everyone has health care, but only the rich or those living in major cities can actually get it. Bottom line at what cost is your glorious healthcare system? At last count you Canadians are paying about 55 to 60 % of your gross salary to the Government. Nothing is free my friend, NOTHING!
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    #45

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:25 AM

    Are you guys expecting a civil war??
    No ;just a bunch of bitter clingers.
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    #46

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    no ;just a bunch of bitter clingers.
    Sounds nasty.
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    Nov 6, 2008, 08:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I live in Canada and the universal healthcare system is far from failed. We are quite happy with it.
    You are one of a few. When living in Michigan I worked with many people who left Canada to get away from that system. One gal I worked with that was from Ontario said I was lucky to be in the US because my mastectomy would have to wait, I only had months to live if the operation was not completed immediately, and she was a NURSE.

    Are we expecting a civil war? I don't know, and I will not guess. But I do live about 30 miles from where the stupid white supremesists (excuse my spelling been up for almost 24 hours) were arrested about a week ago. I live 75 miles from Pulaski Tennessee where the KKK rally is held every year. David Dukes is having a rally/convention this weekend in Memphis, 40 miles south of me.

    I live in the very deep south where racism is still a part of society. Now, I was not raise that way, I just moved here by happenstance, but I can attest to the attitude of the community in which I live, and it is a very scary thought.
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    #48

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by 450donn View Post
    Nothing is free my friend, NOTHING!
    You're the only who thinks it's free. We all know we pay more taxes for it.
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    #49

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    I live in the very deep south where racism is still a part of society. Now, I was not raise that way, I just moved here by happenstance, but I can attest to the attitude of the community in which I live, and it is a very scary thought.
    I made a conscious decision not to live anywhere where I, or my family, would live in constant fear.
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    Nov 6, 2008, 08:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by 450donn View Post
    Why? It is part of the democrats party platform isn't it? Along with pro murder. If you really wanted to know what happens to a society when strict gun laws are enacted you need to simply look to England. Same for your socialist ajenda, Simply look to the North and see a failed health care system of Canada. The reason this country has been so great and powerful in the past is because of the freedoms given us in our Constitution. Want health care? GET A JOB! Want more money? GET EDUCATED AND GET A BETTER JOB! That is a simple enough concept for even the dumbest people in this country to understand. Well, maybe not after forty years of a failed liberal education system.
    That is right I said PRO MURDER! It is not worthy of a reddie, IT IS THE TRUTH! What would you call a botched late term abortion that allows the baby to die with no medical assistance when the doctors are right there in the room? That is MURDER my friend, and your new messiah is on record to allow that very thing to happen.
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    Nov 6, 2008, 08:36 AM
    Sheesh, I don't live in constant fear, I live in no fear at all, well until Hussein takes the helm. I keep my doors unlocked 80% of the time (of course I have 3 dogs that everyone is afraid of if they don't know them). I live in rural America, my children can play outside without my supervision.

    If I lived in Canada in 1997 when I had my cancer, I would be dead by now due to the long waiting lists for surgeries that are considered elective, and because my cancer was only stage 2, my mastectomy would have been considered elective back then. Maybe not now, but back then it was.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I made a conscious decision not to live anywhere where I, or my family, would live in constant fear.
    Now, I ask you... with Hussein in the house, would you choose to live here?
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    #52

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:38 AM
    Not too sure what you are referring to, maybe his middle name?
    Then maybe you should not rate until you are sure . For someone who complains about red stars you sure distribute them liberally.

    I happen to agree generally with what you are saying here
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    #53

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Now, I ask you....with Hussein in the house, would you choose to live here?
    He's not in the house yet as you know but I could see myself in New England but not in the South. Of course I wouldn't go unless I had a secure job with excellent benefits, I wouldn't want to be sued to the poor house.
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    Nov 6, 2008, 08:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    not in the South. Of course I wouldn't go unless I had a secure job with excellent benefits, I wouldn't want to be sued to the poor house.
    So you are comparing the south with the poor? You have a terrible misconception of the south.
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    Nov 6, 2008, 08:48 AM

    I made no such comparison! Geez...
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    Nov 6, 2008, 08:52 AM
    Yes, you did, right here...

    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I could see myself in New England but not in the South.
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Of course I wouldn't go unless I had a secure job with excellent benefits, I wouldn't want to be sued to the poor house.
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    #57

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:55 AM

    Yes. I prefer New England. I don't prefer living in the South.
    I would only go to live the U.S if I had a good job with good benefits. Now where did I compare the south with the poor?
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    #58

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:57 AM
    Now, that makes a little better sense. I only live in the south because of employment. I was raised in upper Michigan and Alaska, by way of western canada, Banff to be exact. I have a good job with good benefits, otherwise I'd be right back in Alaska.
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    #59

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:58 AM

    As long as we are both happy where we live. :)
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    Nov 6, 2008, 09:00 AM
    Yes, NK, I would be happier back up north, but this is where my livelihood is right now. And you know, you are still one of my #1 members here at AMHD no matter our differences. At least we can discuss them in a rational manner.

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