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    #21

    Nov 5, 2008, 09:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by High Max View Post
    I really do hope that he can deliver, he is one of the few politicians I have ever had any faith in. Let's give this man a chance before we crucify him. McCain gave a very graceful and heartfelt speech of concession, and I respect him. Discuss your thoughts!

    Rhetoric won - How can / could you have much "faith" in him, when he really has not done anything other than give good speeches, toe the party line, and associate himself with questionable people [ wright, ayers, rezko, raines ].

    If you wanted someone who actually has accomplished something in government you should have voted McCain / and especially Palin.

    Folks who voted based on rhetoric are going to end up disappointed. Sorry.
    You see, liberals, socialists, communists expect the governemnt to take care of them.
    Traditional JFK Democrats, conservatives, capitalists know that accomplishments are up to each individual.

    Even his VP stated that POTUS is not a place for on the job training.

    As to a "lanslide" - popular vote margin was by 6% - less than any complicit MSM poll predicted. Obama's electoral vote tally was less than Clinton's -
    Look at Reagan - Mondale for the definition of a landslide.
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    #22

    Nov 6, 2008, 02:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by inthebox View Post
    You see, liberals, socialists, communists expect the governemnt to take care of them.
    Why do you keep repeating that like some form of mantra when you know it's not true?
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    #23

    Nov 6, 2008, 04:52 AM

    For all you crazy conservatives who are upset about universal healthcare and such. Ask yourself, "What would jesus do?" He would want to help others :), Would he not?
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    #24

    Nov 6, 2008, 05:55 AM
    Jesus would want us as individuals to help others . He would not expect the state to do so. Where is the virtue in charity that is compelled ?
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    #25

    Nov 6, 2008, 06:03 AM
    The market has been an absolute roller coaster for the past month. Why would today be any different?
    The market had a record post-election drop yesterday.

    What does that mean ? Probably not much . Humans are responsible for their own economic survival . Nothing the occupant of the Oval office does can change that reality . If you put your trust in the nanny-state you are bound to become cynically disillusioned.

    I expect buyer's remourse will begin early winter or spring . I've been recalling President Clintoon's campaign pledge of a tax cut in the middle of a campaign . He took office on Jan. 20,1993 . Here is what he said about his tax cuts shortly there-after.

    "I've worked harder on this than anything I've ever done in my life, and while I said I'd like to lower your taxes, I can't."
    [Bill Clinton February 1993]
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    #26

    Nov 6, 2008, 06:06 AM
    Gas is way down - thank you Obama!
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    Nov 6, 2008, 06:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    He took office on Jan. 20,1993 . Here is what he said about his tax cuts shortly there-after.

    "I've worked harder on this than anything I've ever done in my life, and while I said I'd like to lower your taxes, I can't."
    [Bill Clinton Feburary 1993]
    And don't forget "read my lips, no new taxes" Bush.
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    #28

    Nov 6, 2008, 06:34 AM

    I didn't .That is why Clintoon got my vote in 1992. Above is why Bob Dole got it in 2006.
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    #29

    Nov 6, 2008, 07:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Gas is way down - thank you Obama!
    Um, the prices came down before Hussein was elected.
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    Nov 6, 2008, 07:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Gas is way down - thank you Obama!
    Gas prices are way down because the oil speculators finally got out of the market after they plunged the economy into a depression. If it were not for the housing market taking a big dump, THANKS BARNIE FRANK, NANCY PELOSI, HARRY REED, we would likely be rolling through a mild recession instead of the depression the likes of which we have not seen since the dust bowl days of the 1930's. This whole housing fiasco started in 1977 thanks to your beloved jimmiecarter forcing banks to start lending to questionable people. Was reinforced in 1993 by your beloved billclinton when he forced lending institutions to further reduce the home loan qualifications. Who is to blame for this economy?
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    #31

    Nov 6, 2008, 07:44 AM

    asking

    virtue is moral excellence. Efficiency is producing a desired effect. Jesus would never compelled us to give charitably even though he preached of the virtues of charity because compulsion eliminates the matter of choice.
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    #32

    Nov 6, 2008, 07:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Um, the prices came down before Hussein was elected.
    Not you too. :(
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    #33

    Nov 6, 2008, 07:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Not you too. :(
    Are you disappointed in me NK? :confused:

    I have a business to run outside of my nursing career, and with the current elected officials, I will have to declare bankruptcy if the dems get what they want.
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    #34

    Nov 6, 2008, 07:49 AM
    What part of his new programs will force you into bankruptcy?
    And why did you use his middle name?

    Edit: my sister lives in the U.S. she has a Master of Nursing and a few other titles, she voted for Obama.
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    #35

    Nov 6, 2008, 07:54 AM
    The current elected government will force our gun store out of business with their stringent laws and attempts at revoking and/or eliminating the second amendment as well as stricter gun laws for those of us responsible gun owners. Those laws will only harm us but help the thugs on the streets. Those thugs don't go through proper channels as do the responsible people, so we shouldn't be tightened up on.

    I'm from the deep south, we call everyone by their middle names. LMAO.
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    #36

    Nov 6, 2008, 07:57 AM
    Stringent gun laws shouldn't hurt your business into bankruptcy. If you really believe that they will revoke the second amendment then I don't know what to say to you.
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    #37

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:05 AM
    I don't think, I know, we have the inside scoop. All guns right now are gone... our store cannot even stock for the christmas season.

    It's hard to describe to a person who is not in the trade.

    When on Friday, prior to the election there were over 40,000 firearms, hunting mostly, available from distributors to dealers, then on Monday, prior to the election there were virtually NONE to be found.

    Look, people are stockpiling because they are afraid, afraid of their rights being taken away, afraid of manufacturers being shut down. All of these lawsuits against the manufacturer when it is the person pulling the trigger, usually the gang members buying Lorcen's on the street for $25, and we responsible people will be punished for their wrongdoings.
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    #38

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:06 AM

    What was everyone's favorite name for President Bush ? Oh yeah... Dubya, when they were being polite .

    You see now that a Democrat is in there will be a return to civility .
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    #39

    Nov 6, 2008, 08:06 AM

    Why? It is part of the democrats party platform isn't it? Along with pro murder. If you really wanted to know what happens to a society when strict gun laws are enacted you need to simply look to England. Same for your socialist ajenda, Simply look to the North and see a failed health care system of Canada. The reason this country has been so great and powerful in the past is because of the freedoms given us in our Constitution. Want health care? GET A JOB! Want more money? GET EDUCATED AND GET A BETTER JOB! That is a simple enough concept for even the dumbest people in this country to understand. Well, maybe not after forty years of a failed liberal education system.
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    Nov 6, 2008, 08:07 AM
    J9 they just reported that on the radio . Evidently the sale of guns cannot keep up with supply since yesterday.

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