[bmduncan01]

Where do I find a flange that will offset from the existing 14" to 12"? Or do I need to re-plumb and re-tile?

[speedball1]

where do i find a flange that will offset from the existing 14" to 12"? or do i need to re-plumb and re-tile?

They make offset flanges,(see image) up to 2 inches. Good luck, tom

[speedball1]

Where do i buy an offset toilet flange? I have tried two different plumbing supplies and found nothing.

If you give me the material your pipes are made of I'll give you a link where they maybe purchased. Cheers, Tom

[iamgrowler]

where do i find a flange that will offset from the existing 14" to 12"? or do i need to re-plumb and re-tile?

If replacing the flange presents too much of a hardship, you might consider installing a toilet manufactured specifically for a 14" rough-in.

Kohler, American Standard and Toto, just to name a few, all sell toilets designed specifically for 14" rough-ins.

[speedball1]

For a cast iron 4 X 2" offset closet flange click on; http://www.hicogroup.com/hicocat/11-6.pdf and scroll down to closet flanges and find #2655-12. Although Growlers solution's better a 14: toilet will cost you much more then the flange. Your choice! Good luck, Tom

[ballengerb1]

Hard to improve on what two really qualified plumbers have to say but can you tell me about the floor of the bathroom, is this a slab or framed so you can get underneath?

[speedball1]

I can tell you where Bob's coming from. He wants to know how easy it would be to simply move the closet bend back 2". Something Growler and I should have asked. Thank God there's always someone around to keep us straight.
Thanks Bob! Tom

[ballengerb1]

Tom's right, I'm always looking for a less labor intensive fix if I can find one. If your floor is a slab just go buy a new 14" toilet because even the of set flange might be a pain to install. If you can get to the drain from underneath it might be easier, cheaper to move the closet bend. In any casre you have something to think about a several advisors who would like to help you.

[mohawk13]

Gentlemen,

I would like to ask a question. Why does a toilet need a 12" inches rough-in. From what I understand bmduncan01 would if decided to install a regular toilet with a 12" rough-in have 2" in the back of the tank to the wall.

Is this problematic and why?

(I have just installed a new toilet and have at least 2" between the new tank and the wall (rough-in was greater than 14"). It seemed problematic to me not to have 12" (problem with fitting the toilet and tank) but I did not see a problem with having more than 12".)

Thank you.

[hkstroud]

It's a just matter of appearance. That and everything falling off the back of the toilet.

[mohawk13]

Thank you, I can deal with that.

After reading this topic I was concerned that maybe the wall would prevent the tank from breaking off from the toilet if pushed on, act as a barrier. Sometimes people lean on the tank, the two bolts holding the tank and the toilet together may not be sufficient.

[speedball1]

Thank you, I can deal with that.

After reading this topic I was concerned that maybe the wall would prevent the tank from breaking off from the toilet if pushed on, act as a barrier. Sometimes people lean on the tank, the two bolts holding the tank and the toilet together may not be sufficient.

Great question and good thinking, Hawk. You're correct in assuming that if people leaned back too far it would crack the tank around the tank bolts. Most toilets have a little space between the tank and the wall. This is why, when we install the tank to the bowl we always leave about 1/4" of play so the tank will rock back a bit when leaned upon. The reason being that if we tightened the tank tight to the bowl the first person that leaned back would put a strain on the two tank bolts and crack the china around the holes. I have seen places where they built the wall out with a 2 X 4 placed between the tank and the wall painted the same color wall. Just another option. Hang in there Hawk and tell us what you decide. Tom,