[speechlesstx]

You need more time in the big city Speech, your small rural upbringing is showing.

Oh right, I must be a "typical" dumb "rural" rube. FYI, I have never, ever lived in a rural area.

There is a town in rural Illinois that was focused on by 60 Minutes a number of years ago, that would blow your mind. The rumor of a black family, moving into a white neighborhood, had all the homeowners scurrying to sell before the couple moved in. Even though they were a doctor and lawyer couple, that fear had the residents losing the equity of there homes, out of fear. These were actual facts. Take a broader view before you commit your facts to public scrutiny.

And then there is my city of whites, Hispanics, blacks, Indians, Pakistanis, Vietnamese, Laotians and others in the 2nd largest state by population which also has a non-white majority. Gimme a break.

P.S. We have satellite TV, that internet thingy, Starbucks and have built and maintained nuclear weapons for 57 years.

[BABRAM]

Bobby, beats the double standard in the left's playbook :D

Obama plays by the left playbook when it comes to spending. But the thing is he doesn't hide it and I'd also rather spend more at home, then in Iraq. Hillary's playing by the lefty's playbook when it comes to spending, but also dirty campaigning and now has, "misspoke." The archived media tapes proved today that she was either lying, delusional, or had a memory lapse thinking she was dodging bullets in Bosnia. I wonder how much more disorientated she is at three in the morning? I think it's fairly clear we don't need Hillary answering any White House phones. Oh! And I haven't forgotten about McCain. John McCain will have to use a voice activated speaker phone otherwise the cord will get tangled up in the line going to his oxygen bottle. :)

[speechlesstx]

Obama plays by the left playbook when it comes to spending. But the thing is he doesn't hide it and I'd also rather spend more at home, then in Iraq. Hillary's playing by the lefty's playbook when it comes to spending, but also dirty campaigning and now has, "misspoke." The archived media tapes proved today that she was either lying, delusional, or had a memory lapse thinking she was dodging bullets in Bosnia. I wonder how much more disorientated she is at three in the morning?! I think it's fairly clear we don't need Hillary answering any White House phones. Oh! And I haven't forgotten about McCain. John McCain will have to use a voice activated speaker phone otherwise the cord will get tangled up in the line going to his oxygen bottle. :)

LOL, my point is simple and I know you're smart guy and get it. The people that are defending Obama for being mentored for 20 years by Wright and calling his granny a "typical white person" go berserk when the roles are reversed. I know it and you know it, too. We can deal with Hillary and McCain on another post.

[Skell]

LOL, my point is simple and I know you're smart guy and get it. The people that are defending Obama for being mentored for 20 years by Wright and calling his granny a "typical white person" go berserk when the roles are reversed. I know it and you know it, too. We can deal with Hillary and McCain on another post.

The same can be said for all people here when defending there man. As I claimed on my other post you guys have been disgusted by the treatment Bush has received by sections of the media yet when it is aimed at Hillary or Obama you gleefully circulate such stories. There is no difference s o don't claim to be any different. Its human nature to defend what we believe in whether it be right or wrong. Look at the way you are defending Cheny. Your going "beserk" that his comments were taken out of context.

[BABRAM]

The same can be said for all people here when defending there man. As ic alimed on my other post you guys have been disgusted by the treatment Bush has recieved by sections of the media yet when it is aimed at Hillary or Obama you gleefully circulate such stories. There is no difference s o dont claim to be any different. Its human nature to defen in what we believe in whether it be right or wrong. Look at the way you are defending Cheny. Your going "beserk" that his comments were taken out of context.

I agree with you Skell. And I know it's frustrating for you to see this nonsense coming out of the United States. To be perfectly honest I'm embarrassed that my home nation is spending time on issues that are basically irrelative to repairing the last seven and a half years under the Bush administration. :o And although the racial issue was not brought up originally by the candidate I'm supporting "Obama," it is one of the few thus far that's worth a look-see because we are a nation made up of so many different people. I do think Obama addressed racial tension speaking in terms of identification markers, from generation to generation, superbly. As for the board, lately I just go with whatever topic the McCain supporters want me to explain them.:rolleyes: Seriously though, I don't agree with Steve (speechlessTx) and Tom (tomder55) on this post and on some other issues, but I know these guys and we all share the same interest in wanting to see our country improve. Even SkyGem, that would bore an owl into comatose by talking in circles from the pulpit of Hannity, Limbaugh, and Coulter, I can respect. Because although I disagree with SkyGem, I can tell that person really cares. :cool:

I think once the smoke clears from the Democratic primaries and we get the nomination declared, the country will start focusing in on issues that effect our wallets, and our children's future. If not then for sure after the first nationally televised general election debate. At least that's my hope, either that or I can move to Israel by birthright, or Southeast Asia, where I have a second home. And just north of the US is Canada where their dollar is stronger than ours. And for sure the Euro is kicking our tuchus. Did I mention that I like Mexican food? Mexico's starting to look like a great place to retire. At the rate our US economy is going, amnesty for illegals will be an issue of contention, not for the US government, but for the Mexican government, as gringo's start heading south. :)

[Skell]

I agree Bobby. Its not so much frustrating but disappointing and somewhat hypocritical. The greatest nation on earth. The land of the free and brave. A nation that supposedly gives hope to the rest of the world carrying on in such ways is laughable. Surely your better than this. But maybe not.

I think Obama addressed racial tensions superbly too. I thought his speech was wonderful. But many others didn't. That's fair enough too. We aren't meant to see eye to eye.

And there is no doubt that you all care. Who wouldn't. It is an important decision and you people are very patriotic. It deserves heartfelt debate and I enjoy reading and giving my two bobs worth.

If it doesn't work out the way you want then ill meet you in Thailand for a drink. My shout. Our dollar nearly matches yours these days so I can afford it.

[speechlesstx]

The same can be said for all people here when defending there man. As i claimed on my other post you guys have been disgusted by the treatment Bush has recieved by sections of the media yet when it is aimed at Hillary or Obama you gleefully circulate such stories. There is no difference s o dont claim to be any different. Its human nature to defend what we believe in whether it be right or wrong. Look at the way you are defending Cheny. Your going "beserk" that his comments were taken out of context.

Actually Skell I think I've been pretty consistent. My defense of Cheney being "dismissive" is based on the context of his statement and his history of publicly honoring the sacrifice of the troops and their families - as opposed to the snippet of an article NK posted. I also said I disagree that Bush bears the greater burden. Who then, is fair?

I asked a valid question about Obama, what does he mean by a "typical white person?" I'm a white person and deserve an answer. My opinion is entirely supported by the pretext and context of his speech and related interviews, and the double standard I speak of was evidenced by numerous recent events - Imus, Biden, Ferraro. The media went nuts, heads rolled, Sharpton mobilized. Obama makes a stupid, stereotypical remark about whites and the same people stand in his defense. On the other hand, I've repeatedly defended Obama here against charges of being unpatriotic and secretly a Muslim and was the first to acknowledge his attempt to clarify the remark. Who then, is fair?

[speechlesstx]

Skell, we get a little passionate but I know politics isn't just a full contact sport in this country :D

Bobby and I may kick each other around a little but the guy is a loyal Dallas Cowboys fan so he's all right. That's more than I can say for tom who for some reason follows the NY Giants. And by the way, I love Mexican food, too. Maybe we can organize a nice fiesta and work it all out :)

[tomder55]

Stop dissing the Gnats ! They are the champs! This garlic nosed Italian-American isn't going to take it anymore !

[speechlesstx]

stop dissing the Gnats ! They are the champs! This garlic nosed Italian-American aint gonna take it anymore !

Took you long enough :). Yeah, they're the champs and I salute them, they earned it and this Cowboy fan was proud of them. You may never hear me say that again though... unless it helps my fantasy team :D