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    #41

    Mar 23, 2008, 05:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
    for myself, if they wish to use those terms for someone who stands for Christ and will not be scard to admit what real sin is, thank God I am counted amount them.
    Puts me in mind of a story I read once. Ah, here it is.
    Luk 18:9 ¶ And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

    Luk 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

    Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men [are], extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

    Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

    Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift so much as [his] eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

    Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified [rather] than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
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    #42

    Mar 23, 2008, 01:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_man
    I hold all of those religious views and think it is very important for other christians to establish and maintain those views in their everyday life. Christians need to be solidly founded in their beliefs regarding the supremacy of Christ and God and the absolute truths of the Bible. There has been a huge push to be more liberal in our views and that is fine as long as it is in line with the Bible.
    Yea! Thank you for standing up for the Truth! I agree with what the Bible says is True, not with what man's doctrine is.
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    #43

    Mar 23, 2008, 08:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_man
    Those views were that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life;
    G-d is not man.


    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_man
    God is the all-powerful and all-knowing Creator of the universe and He stills rules it today;
    That's why G-d's not a man.

    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_man
    salvation is a gift from God and cannot be earned;
    Why would anyone think the listed commandments and precepts are the stairway to heaven? These guidelines to humanity are so that we improve as individuals. When we do mitzvot, we do good.


    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_man
    Satan is real;?
    Your problem is not if Satan (HaSatan: adversary, accuser) is a real individual, it's how you react and overcome when confronted by adversity.

    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_man
    a Christian has a responsibility to share their faith in Christ with other people; and the Bible is accurate in all of its teachings.[/I][/B];
    From my understanding most Christian denominations, if not all, teach conversion. Some are just more aggressive than others.



    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_man
    What do you believe regarding this study?;?
    No offence, but naïve and shallow.

    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_man
    Do you hold a "biblical worldview"? And if you do in your opinion is this crucial view to have? I know my opinions; what are yours?
    I accept from my heritage and studies that the Torah is the blueprint for mankind.
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    Mar 23, 2008, 08:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_man
    A study by the Barna group indicates that only 4% of Christians have a "biblical worldview" (see linked study Welcome to The Barna Group! )

    The definition of a "biblical worldview" as defined in the study follows:

    For the purposes of the research, a biblical worldview was defined as believing that absolute moral truths exist; that such truth is defined by the Bible; and firm belief in six specific religious views. Those views were that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life; God is the all-powerful and all-knowing Creator of the universe and He stills rules it today; salvation is a gift from God and cannot be earned; Satan is real; a Christian has a responsibility to share their faith in Christ with other people; and the Bible is accurate in all of its teachings.

    What do you believe regarding this study? Do you hold a "biblical worldview"? And if you do in your opinion is this crucial view to have?

    I know my opinions; what are yours?
    God is not all knowing Creator. Tell me Why?
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    Mar 24, 2008, 06:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by marvin_082500
    God is not all knowing Creator. tell me Why?
    Your question is to tell you Why God is not the all knowing creator?? :confused:
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    #46

    Mar 29, 2008, 10:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mountain_man
    A study by the Barna group indicates that only 4% of Christians have a "biblical worldview" (see linked study Welcome to The Barna Group! )

    The definition of a "biblical worldview" as defined in the study follows:

    For the purposes of the research, a biblical worldview was defined as believing that absolute moral truths exist; that such truth is defined by the Bible; and firm belief in six specific religious views. Those views were that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life; God is the all-powerful and all-knowing Creator of the universe and He stills rules it today; salvation is a gift from God and cannot be earned; Satan is real; a Christian has a responsibility to share their faith in Christ with other people; and the Bible is accurate in all of its teachings.

    What do you believe regarding this study? Do you hold a "biblical worldview"? And if you do in your opinion is this crucial view to have?

    I know my opinions; what are yours?


    Christian, and yes, I hold those same views. :D

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