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    #41

    Feb 22, 2008, 11:23 PM
    Ok, first of all. Smoking weed will not give you a disease. You can't shoot weed up. Its actually a great way to relieve stress. I know someone who smoked weed their whole pregnancy and her baby is healthy as can be. Not that it's a good idea to do it. Him smoking weed and getting off in you will not harm you at all. If your against weed, maybe you should leave him. But whatever happens good luck!
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    #42

    Feb 23, 2008, 10:16 PM
    Is he smoking hashoil now?
    So here is me again. I posted a question on February 14th (is he smoking weed?)
    And I thank you all for your answers.
    Since I'm going to relate my new question to the last one, I'll copy my last question here:
    "me and my boyfrend, we have been going out for more than a year. and i always suspected that he smokes weed. and recently i found out some stuff in his ashtray and i told him that i know he is smoking weed and i showed him proof. but he said its not his and that its his cousine's and a frend's. so i called them up, and his cousine said its none of my business and his frend said that it was his stuff, not my boyfreind's. i want to know if he is smoking weed. i want to find out. but how can i tell?"

    My new question is:
    I asked my boyfriend what exactly they were smoking that day and he said that they don't smoke weed and that they always smoke hash oil. And in some odd way I think my boyfriend is with them in that. I know you guys would be picking on the trust thing again, but I don't mind. I just want to know is these symptoms relate to some who uses hashoil.

    1. when we are out having a coffee, he'll receive a call, he'll mumble
    Into the phone and he'll suddenly drop me home and he'll come pick
    Me up after 1 hour and when he comes back:
    2. his eyes are red shot,
    3. he'll be in a better mood,
    4. but he'll sweat,
    5. he keeps smelling himself
    6. he eats a lot
    7. he laughs a lot
    8. he has short temper and he recently beat me like hell when I threatened to show the end tubes of the cigarrattes I found in his ash tray to his mother. He looked so scary and he beat me everywhere
    9. when his eyes are not red, he is pissed off
    10. When his eyes are not red, he can't concentrate on anything I say
    11. He keeps looking at the phone expecting someone to call
    12. He got some bad rashes recently
    I don't know there is a lot more... I don't want to think about it

    Please help me identify...
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    #43

    Feb 23, 2008, 10:34 PM
    Look drugs or no drugs... if the man beat the crap out of you... LEAVE HIM!! There is no other issue here. He BEAT you!! If you only care if he is on drugs (because that makes it better, right?)... he is on something (more than likely)! There is no way to tell exactly what, because most drugs have the same side effects/symptoms.

    Take a look at what you are asking about... and he expects this to be better than smoking pot?? (google it... see for yourself what hash oil is... pretty bad stuff, I would think)

    I am not trying to freak on you... it just kills me how any woman or girl can stand beside a man that even bows up or raises a hand towards her, much less hit or "beat" her. Respect... not even close to it. Leave the SOB and let some other person deal with him and his drug problems. PERIOD
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    #44

    Feb 23, 2008, 11:37 PM
    I know he has done really bad things to me. But I just don't want to leave him, because I'm afraid I might not love anyone anymore. I don't think I can love again. This is the guy I love. But I'm not sure if I trust him. I hate myself for thinking that he is lying to me. But I'm pretty sure he does lie. But yet, I am still with him
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    #45

    Feb 24, 2008, 12:47 AM
    a4: You are speaking of lust, not love.

    If you truly "love" this guy... there would be no reason to distrust him. No true love would involve lying or cheating or beating your partner. Sorry, can you tell I am hung up on the fact that he HITS you?
    I promise you... you will find another and another and another... AND SO ON! There are to many guys out there that will treat you like the lady you deserve to be treated. I would also suggest that you take the time to be by yourself... you sound scared of that. Find your true inner being before you try to learn someone else's. (I am sure you will find that you deserve better than this).
    I am only speaking from experience here. If he IS using drugs, the beatings will get worse as he tires of that drug and goes for a stronger one.
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    #46

    Feb 24, 2008, 04:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by a4a5a6a7
    1. when we are out having a coffee, he'll recieve a call, he'll mumble
    into the phone and he'll suddenly drop me home and he'll come pick
    me up after 1 hour and when he comes back:
    2. his eyes are red shot,
    3. he'll be in a better mood,
    4. but he'll sweat,
    5. he keeps smelling himself
    6. he eats a lot
    7. he laughs a lot
    8. he has short temper and he recently beat me like hell when i threatened to show the end tubes of the cigarrattes i found in his ash tray to his mother. he looked so scary n he beat me everywhere
    9. when his eyes are not red, he is pissed off
    10. when his eyes are not red, he can't concentrate on anything i say
    11. he keeps lookin at the phone expectin someone to call
    12. he got some bad rashes recently
    Hello again, a:

    Are these the symptoms of hash oil use?? NO!

    People who partake in the herb are not violent. They might tear up a bag of chitos, but not their girlfriend.

    excon
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    #47

    Feb 24, 2008, 07:05 AM
    Yep... sounds like something that is actually a drug... oops did I say that out loud? Lol
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    #48

    Feb 24, 2008, 07:59 AM
    a4a5etc seems to be displaying battered spouse syndrome.

    Don't worry, folks. Life is just fine as soon as daddy stops hitting.

    You need to get away from this guy and get some help.
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    #49

    Feb 24, 2008, 08:02 AM
    You've already found the "smoking gun." It's very convenient to blame it on visitors and friends. That's not to say that his cousin and friend haven't been doing it with him ; they probably have. But if you want some real telltale signs, look for these: mood swings/alternating feelings of fatigue and ecstacy, eating binges and subsequent weight gain, frequent phone calls or visits from strangers (especially at odd hours) and the telltale incense-like smell on his breath or lingering in his home or on his clothes.
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    #50

    Feb 24, 2008, 08:09 AM
    raggablue agrees: although, as you already know, marijuana is not addictive
    Have to disagree with this. Maybe it all depends on how one defines "addiction." But I've known many people who've totally screwed up their lives after starting with marijuana.
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    #51

    Feb 24, 2008, 08:19 AM
    I know that some people are more susceptible to addiction than others so nobody can claim marijuana is not addicting... Pepsi is even addicting yet not all Pepsi drinkers are addicted!
    Very true, and this comment reflects a true understanding of the nature of addiction.
    The affects of marijuana the brain's Anandamide, dopamine and other receptors

    Marijuana causes some people to be paranoid.
    Very true as well.
    Addictive effects
    Marijuana use affects dopamine, a neurotransmitter involved in the brain's pleasure producing or reward mechanism, which explains its potential for dependency.

    Memory impairment
    Marijuana use can negatively affect short-term memory, especially memories trying to be recovered during the time when one was using this drug.

    Amotivational syndrome
    Since testosterone levels are temporarily lowered, users of marijuana don't feel like doing much besides eating and hanging out with the small group of friends with which they are most comfortable.

    Disease
    Long-term marijuana use can cause irreversible changes in both male and female reproductive organs, such as lowered sperm count in men and altered shape of the uterus in women. Lung cancer, emphysema, and lowered immune system responses, such as decreased white blood cell count, could also result from extended marijuana use.

    Mental health
    Marijuana appears to increase the risk of developing depression and/or schizophrenia the more that one uses it.
    All facts. Deny or argue with them as much as you want but these are the facts.
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    #52

    Feb 24, 2008, 08:34 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by s_cianci
    Long-term marijuana use can cause irreversible changes in both male and female reproductive organs, such as lowered sperm count in men and altered shape of the uterus in women. Lung cancer, emphysema......
    Hello again, cianci:

    If marijuana causes lung cancer, you'd think some of those people would have died. As a matter of fact, if marijuana causes lung cancer LOTS of people would be dead as a result.

    But, you can't find one. Not one. That's because marijuana doesn't cause lung cancer at all. It's just more government propaganda that lots of you buy into. Nobody every died from smoking pot. Nobody.

    Nope. If your objective is to reduce marijuana use, lying about it won't do the trick. They've been trying that for 75 years..

    excon

    PS> I don’t mean YOU’RE lying, cianci. You’re a good person who’s simply been mislead.
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    #53

    Feb 24, 2008, 09:06 AM
    Hello again:

    There's a couple a pot posts going on right now, and I want to clear up some stuff.

    Today, the good pot is home grown. It's not like the old days when home grown was what you smoked when you couldn't buy anything else. Nooooo, not at all. Today's homegrown pot is the most potent pot in the world. Chalk one up for American ingenuity and know how. Plus, no longer are we net importers. American dope is enjoyed worldwide. In fact, marijuana is America's biggest cash crop.

    Ok, here comes the fact:

    This homegrown pot has five to ten and maybe even 20 times the amount of TAR than a cigarette has.

    Here comes the spin: Pot has more tar than tobacco does, ergo; it causes more cancer than cigarettes do.

    But, that nexus is incorrect. Here's another fact: Tar doesn't cause lung cancer. NICOTINE does. Pot has no nicotine, and doesn't cause lung cancer.

    That's not to say that ingesting smoke in and out of your lungs is GOOD. It's just to say that so far, it hasn't been proven to kill you.

    Which brings up another subject. Because of the DEA prohibition, there's no study to confirm or deny what we're saying here. You'd think the government would WANT a study or two to back up its claims. You'd also think the government would like to know about the medical benefits of pot. But noooooo. The government isn't interested in facts. Because the last the time the government commissioned a study on pot, the commission recommended it be decriminalized. That happened during Nixon's era.

    excon
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    #54

    Feb 24, 2008, 09:18 AM
    Does anyone know the history behind the US pot laws?

    Legal history of marijuana in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The laws first started as an attempt to get rid of Mexicans who were taking jobs away from "real Americans" during the depression.

    Gee, what's going on today? The US has a large Latino population working in this country and we could be well heading for a recession. Watch for something new to become illegal.
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    #55

    Feb 24, 2008, 09:49 AM
    It's not that I want to lie about it. And I don't necessarily doubt that some of the "facts" out there are propaganda. As for lung cancer, I believe it's true that far more get it and die from ordinary cigarettes than from marijuana, simply because far more people smoke tobacco than marijuana and those who do so do in far greater quantities. But continually inhaling any type of smoke into one's lungs on a long-term basis causes irritation that, over time, can cause the lung tissue to mutate into cancer. But I've known far too many people who have smoked marijuana and then subsequently seen their lives go downhill to believe that it's totally "harmless". In particular, when I was in college a lot of my fraternity brothers smoked. I can think of 2 in particular. The first one was two years ahead of me, meaning that he was a junior when I was a freshman. He was a heavy marijuana user by the time I got to know him, was considerably overweight (from the eating binges brought on by the sensation of extreme hunger that occurs as the high starts to wear off), had bulging eyes that were bloodshot much of the time and was very careless about his appearance. He also used cocaine and drank heavily (as most of us frat boys did, lol!) Now all of this might not sound unusual in and of itself. But looking at the composite photographs of the brothers from the previous two years prior to when I joined the fraternity revealed a rather startling truth. Looking at this particular guy's picture from his freshman year (2 years prior to my becoming a member), he was well-groomed, had naturally deep-set eyes, was considerably lighter and very well-dressed. It was actually shocking and, if not for the name below his picture, you'd never believe it was the same person. His sophomore year picture the following year showed some deterioration ; still recognizable compared to the previous year but a little more unkempt and somewhat heavier. But the following year, the one in which I first appeared as a freshman, he looks like a totally different person. If you could see the two pictures side-by-side, separated by only two years, save for the name below you'd never believe it was the same person. The following year, he isn't even in the composite photo, having flunked out of school and forced to go home in disgrace and face his parents, owing us (the fraternity) $600 for room and board and taking up a job at a car wash for minimum wage (he had started as an engineering major.) On top of that, those who knew him during his high school years confirm that he was an honor student throughout high school and his freshman year in college. Now I'm not suggesting that marijuana use was the sole factor in this person's not-for-the-better transformation but it's pretty hard to deny that it at least played a part. The other example that comes to mind is a fellow who was 1 year ahead of me. Like the first guy, he was a marijuana user, very overweight (even more so than the first guy), used cocaine and drank very heavily. For him, my revelation came not from looking at past composite photographs but when I stumbled across one of his high school yearbook pictures and I was SHOCKED. He was a good 60 lbs. lighter and had a far healthier complexion and the caption under his picture stated that he was likewise an honor student. Granted, in this case there was a few more years gap than the first example but the changes that were evident would not have happened naturally over just a few years' span. The following year (my sophomore, his junior) he came back to start the fall semester only to find out that he had been dropped for poor grades, just like the other guy I spoke of. He lingered on, staying at the house for a semester, too ashamed to go home and tell his parents that he'd flunked out of school, but of course he eventually had to live up to that reality. Again, I'm not suggesting that marijuana is the sole culprit but you're never going to convince me that it didn't play a role and probably a major one at that. Even my own example should serve as a warning. When I went away to college I didn't use marijuana but I did drink alcohol, more than I should have and certainly far more than I ever did in my pre-college years. I gained weight as a result and said and did a lot of foolish things when I was under the influence. I managed to stay in school and graduate but my grades weren't as high as they had been in high school, at least not until my senior year. THe guys that I spoke of likewise no doubt started with alcohol, then progressed to marijuana and finally to cocaine. So based on what I've witnessed and not just heard or read, I can't honestly say that marijuana is "harmless" and that the government is just trying to scare me.
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    Feb 24, 2008, 10:14 AM
    I think these guys had something more going on than the drug issues. Let's face it. College is as much about what goes on out of class as in class. Don't know anything about their home life, but what you are saying is that they did fine in a structured home environment, but when left up to their own devices, they ran a muck. The particular way they did it in the environment of your fraternity was through drugs which actually says something about that frat. Would they be any better off if they had gone to a different environment where booze was the drop out route of choice? I think not.

    Back to pot. It wasn't the pot. It was their life choices. I bet excon can say a thing or two about that.

    BTW, I never heard nicotine was the culprit in lung cancer. I thought it was the tar. Wow, so taking the "cigarettes as a nicotine delivery device" idea a bit further, cigarettes might be seen as a lung cancer delivery device. Tobacco companies modulating nicotine content to hook smokers takes on a whole new meaning.

    excon, am I right in assuming the nicotine has to be added? That it isn't in tobacco per se? I smoke cigars and I don't get a nicotine high from them... nothing remotely like the buzz I used to get from that first cigarette of the day. With cigars, it is tactile oral pleasure... which probably says something about me.
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    Feb 24, 2008, 10:09 PM
    So are you saying that the things that I noticed from him are the kind of symptoms of someone who is in to drugs?
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    Feb 25, 2008, 04:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by a4a5a6a7
    me and my boyfrend, we have been going out for more than a year. and i always suspected that he smokes weed. and recently i found out some stuff in his ashtray and i told him that i know he is smoking weed and i showed him proof. but he said its not his and that its his cousine's and a frend's. so i called them up, and his cousine said its none of my business and his frend said that it was his stuff, not my boyfreind's.
    i want to know if he is smoking weed. i want to find out. but how can i tell?
    Research the appearance, etc. of weed on the internet, then you can test it to see if it is weed or not. Just so you know, it is more harmful to smoke bakky than weed.
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    Apr 4, 2008, 01:32 AM
    If your boyfriend is smoking weed his house will smell of it his eyes will be red and bloodshot and if you ask him if he's high he will tell you xx
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    Apr 4, 2008, 01:54 AM
    My man dose it I hate it won't touch it :P yuck basically weed has a really obvious smell give him a kiss when ever you get home or after he's been alone and I mean a proper full on kiss smoch stuff you'll taste it it's hard to discrib but if you've picked it out of and ash try then you'll no the smell it sort of tastes the same the smoke sits heavy in the room to. Don't be to hard on him I no it's bad but the worse thing to do is blame and yell and such just be lax about it till he relaxs and trusts you with it then you can work on stopping it just be happy that's it's not a really hard drug :)

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