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Dec 30, 2007, 07:35 PM
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Would these elements affect my pregnancy?
This is Tamlou revising my? Would hoodia, colon cleansing, drinking & smoking affecting my pregnancy? This is what I know thus far: I am 35 years old and 1 child, 2 abortions and 2 miscarriages. I believe that I may be pregnant; however, I have taken a pregnancy test from the dollar store that was negative. I am 7 days late but am experiencing tinder breast and nausea. I am having the same symptoms that I had the last time that I was pregnant. I have been drinking, smoking, taking hoodia and colon cleansers on a daily basis. What should I do if I am pregnant? If I am pregnancy, I want my baby.
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Dec 30, 2007, 07:46 PM
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Maybe you should try getting a pregnancy test from somewhere else other than a dollar store, there's a reason it's a dollar. Drinking and smoking can cause birth defects in the baby, I would recommend you make sure your not pregnant before you drink some of the good stuff.
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Dec 30, 2007, 07:48 PM
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I answered you in your other thread but I will say that I like the way you worded this one better. If I'm not mistaken hoodia is an appetite curber and I am confused because I didn't think women had colons. And honestly if I were you I would stop it all until I knew for sure because as I said before the abortions increase the likelihood of miscarriage and you don't want to lose a baby that you want to keep. Also with the previous miscarriages and the fact that you are older you deffinantly want to bee extra careful until you get the OK from the dr. I deffinantly know that the drinking and smoking have to go but I'm not an expert so I don't know about the others. I do know they told me no laxatives because it can cause me to put strain on my uterus.
Good luck with everything!
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Dec 30, 2007, 07:53 PM
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 Originally Posted by brown_eyes_3546
i am confused bc i didnt think women had colons.
Dude, every body has a colon.
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Dec 30, 2007, 08:04 PM
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Like I said I'm not a dr but I am pregnant and I do know what the 50 pages my doctor gave me on medicine does and donts says. I would advise stopping anything questionable until the dr says its OK. I know the abortion info because I had to do a paper on them. It was a cruel joke by a proffessor that knew I was pregnant and wanted to know if his youngest student would do a paper on a topic that literally makes her puke doing the research. ( I swear the baby knew what I was reading).
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Dec 30, 2007, 08:17 PM
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 Originally Posted by brown_eyes_3546
i didnt think women had colons.
Excuse me! Everyone has a colon, it is part of our digestive tract, intestinal tract to be exact.
 Originally Posted by Da Bigchamp
Drinking and smoking can cause birth defects in the baby,
This is actually incorrect information. Neither smoking nor drinking will cause birth defects. But can cause some ailments such as asthma just to name one.
Whether you are pregnant you need to QUIT drinking and/or smoking until you find out for sure.
It won't cause birth defects, but can cause low birth weight, premature birth, etc.
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Dec 30, 2007, 08:22 PM
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 Originally Posted by J_9
This is actually incorrect information. Neither smoking nor drinking will cause birth defects. But can cause some ailments such as asthma just to name one.
Whether or not you are pregnant you need to QUIT drinking and/or smoking until you find out for sure.
It won't cause birth defects, but can cause low birth weight, premature birth, etc.
Well sorry. When I mean birth defects I mean something that shouldn't happen, happens to the baby.
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Dec 30, 2007, 08:29 PM
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Birth defects are defined an a physical anomaly to the baby, such as spina bifida, cerebral palsy, congenital heart defects, etc.
Smoking may cause asthma... drinking may cause withdrawals, or FAS... typically they are low birth weight, born prematurely. But as birth defects, nope.
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Dec 30, 2007, 08:38 PM
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Well I look at it this way, birth defects shouldn't happen to a baby, premature birth shouldn't happen to a baby.
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Dec 30, 2007, 08:46 PM
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I was told that they can cause problems in neural tube development by my doctor. I don't do either but my step mom is while she is pregnant and I was concerned so I asked. It may be a difference in doctors oppinions? I know I made myself look stupid because I didn't know that I had a colon because I am not a nurse by any means and can't even look at blood. I'm an accountant because I don't know my anatomy I know nuumbers. But I think the important point is that smoking and drinking is a no no when you are pregnant especially. Arnt preme's at risk for under developed lungs and things that would be worse than asthma or withdrawals. And I know that many preme's spend weeks in the hospital before they are safe to go home.
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Dec 30, 2007, 09:21 PM
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Hey, J-9, isn't fetal alcohol syndrome a birth defect? It's usually mild, but depending on how much tamlou has been drinking, it can cause some defects: This is from the National Organization on Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.
"A baby with FASD may be born with a small head and identifiable facial features. He or she may have abnormalities or deformities of the limbs, hands or feet. Heart, liver and kidney problems are common, as well as vision and hearing problems."
Tamlou, I think the main thing at this point is to not drink anymore. I read that binge drinking--like drinking three glasses of wine once a week--is much worse for the baby than drinking half a glass every day. But it's better not to drink at all when pregnant.
And quit smoking if you possibly can. (And don't start up after the baby is born.) Smoking is bad in lots of ways, causing low birth weight babies, increased risk of miscarriage, and doubling the risk of cleft palate.
ABCs of Healthy Pregnancy, BD, NCBDDD, CDC
Maternal Smoking and Birth Defects
Outcomes: Prenatal Data Smoking Book | CDC Reproductive Health
I read recently that even smoking before and after pregnancy affects the baby. Mice exposed to tobacco smoke before pregnancy or afterward (but not during) had daughters with only two-thirds as many eggs as normal. And the male baby mice had lower sperm counts, too. If that is true in humans, it would make it much harder for a daughter or son to have a baby. If it can affect their fertility as adults, it's probably doing other things too.
Definitely eat well and take a multivitamin now, especially folic acid (also called "folate"), to prevent spina bifida and other neural tube defects.
How Folate Can Help Prevent Birth Defects
You might also try eating red grapes or peanuts or anything containing resveratrol, because that helped the mice who smoked! But they got injections and I'm not sure how much food would help. Can't hurt to try though. It supposedly fights cancer and makes you live longer.
I don't know anything about hoodia and colon cleansers, but I would stop... I think we all think you are probably pregnant based on what you said. If so, good luck and enjoy your baby. If not, you should still quit smoking and drinking and start taking folate and vitamins, because it helps even more if you do it before getting pregnant.
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Dec 30, 2007, 10:19 PM
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 Originally Posted by asking
Hey, J-9, isn't fetal alcohol syndrome a birth defect?
Actually, no, it is not considered a birth defect. A birth defect is something more along the lines of spina bifida, congenital heart defects, etc. It is a syndrome, they are separate entities. Of course, it all depends on what studies you look at... Here is one that indeed states that FAS is in fact a birth defect.
A birth defect is a problem that happens while a baby is developing in the mother's body. Most birth defects happen during the first 3 months of pregnancy. One out of every 33 babies in the United States is born with a birth defect.
A birth defect may affect how the body looks, works or both. Some birth defects like cleft lip or neural tube defects are structural problems that can be easy to see. To find others, like heart defects, doctors use special tests. Birth defects can vary from mild to severe. Some result from exposures to medicines or chemicals. For example, alcohol abuse can cause fetal alcohol syndrome. Infections during pregnancy can also result in birth defects. For most birth defects, the cause is unknown.
Some birth defects can be fatal. Babies with birth defects may need surgery or other medical treatments. Today, doctors can diagnose many birth defects in the womb. This enables them to treat or even correct some problems before the baby is born.
So, I don't necessarily stand corrected, it just all depends on what study you are reading.
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Dec 30, 2007, 10:29 PM
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I stand slightly corrected... FAS is a form of a birth "defect" that is considered PREVENTABLE... Yet many are not preventable.
Because it is considered "preventable" many professionals do not recognize this as a birth defect as would they a disorder such as hydrocephalus.
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Dec 30, 2007, 10:38 PM
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"Spina bifida and anencephaly, the two most common types of neural tube defects (NTDs), may be prevented if women have sufficient folic acid in their diet prior to becoming pregnant and during the pregnancy. Fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) can be prevented if women do not drink during pregnancy."
Preventing Birth Defects : Environmental Health in Minnesota
A birth defect is a defect if it can be prevented or not.
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Dec 30, 2007, 11:38 PM
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 Originally Posted by brown_eyes_3546
l i know the abortion info bc i had to do a paper on them. it was a cruel joke by a professor that knew i was pregnant and wanted to know if his youngest student would do a paper on a topic that literally makes her puke doing the research. ( i swear the baby knew what i was reading).
The baby did not know! :) But what a jerk that professor was to make you do that. Did you ask for a different topic? I think you would have had a right to say no and I would think your college ombudsperson would have backed you up. How far along are you?
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Dec 31, 2007, 12:25 AM
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J-9, Can you tell us who it is who says that a birth defect is only a birth defect if it cannot be prevented? This is a new one to me. Do they mean it has to be genetic? And is this something in one of your medical books or from a class?
I TA'd an embryology course for a year when I was in grad school and also worked in an embryology lab as a technician for a couple of years, so I read a lot about birth defects--although mostly when I was pregnant. :) But I hadn't heard that restriction on the definition until today. I'm wondering if it is an older idea, from when most malformations were assumed to be genetic mutations.
I would think that it would be really hard to tell if a defect was caused by the environment (or genes) until someone discovered what specific thing (toxin, deficiency, infection) was causing the defect. If you don't know, you tend to assume it's genetic and unpreventable. For example, nobody knew that folic acid deficiency was causing neural tube defects (spina bifida, anencephaly, some kinds of hydrocephaly) until about 20 years ago.Then the government put folic acid in bread and cereal and the rate of spina bifida and anencephaly dropped by a third or so! I love that story. Such a safe and simple solution to a terrible problem.
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Dec 31, 2007, 02:30 AM
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He gave me two options. He said that I hadn't wrote a sincere paper all semester and he wanted me to do something I felt strongly about. He said drunk driving or abortion. Well I am 4 months pregnant this week and Dec 30, 2006 I was hit by a drunk driver and it nearly killed me my boyfriend and his 18 yr old brother in one swoop. He happened to be friends with my junior english teacher and she informed him that I had already wrote the drunk driving paper for her so that left me with abortion! I say I think the baby knew what I was reading because no matter what time of day it was I would be sick every time I did research. Abortion was not an option in my pregnancy because my boyfriend is against it completely and it is not something for me. I am prochoice but I choose to prevent not abort.
Oh and thank you for providing resources for your information. I have felt rather attacked in the previous adds to this post because I didn't take anatomy and physiology. I simply listen to what my doctor has to say and read everything I can find about what to and not to do while I'm pregnant. I am terrified of something happening to my first baby and I want to prevent anything I can I have even gone as far as no caffine in my diet because I am extra sensitive to it and my doc told me to go easy on it. I avoid fish because of the mercury and I eat turkey meat instead of beef because it is healthier.
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Dec 31, 2007, 06:27 AM
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Thank you to everyone who answered my post. The information was most helpful.:)
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Dec 31, 2007, 12:27 PM
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 Originally Posted by brown_eyes_3546
he gave me two options. He said that I hadn't wrote a sincere paper all semester and he wanted me to do something I felt strongly about. He said drunk driving or abortion.
I guess he meant well in terms of trying to get you to write with more personal commitment, but I still think he made a bad decision. I'm really sorry. I'm also prochoice, but I think the choice should be the pregnant woman's, not anybody else's.
I say I think the baby knew what I was reading because no matter what time of day it was I would be sick every time I did research
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I think it was because it was stressful for you to be reading about abortions when you had already committed to keeping your baby. It's always a serious decision and your teacher was implicitly challenging your choice, which he had no right to do. It's none of his business. He probably didn't realize what he was doing though.Just a bull in a china shop...
oh and thank you for providing resources for your information. I have felt rather attacked in the previous adds to this post because I didn't take anatomy and physiology. I simply listen to what my doctor has to say and read everything I can find about what to and not to do while I'm pregnant. I am terrified of something happening to my first baby
Anybody can make a mistake. I also think anybody with as much motivation to learn as you obviously have should be encouraged.:) I am impressed with what you know! I bet J-9 was just surprised by the comment about colons, not meaning to make you feel bad personally. She knows a lot about medicine and anatomy.
I hope you can stop worrying about your baby being born with birth defects. You are doing all the right things. Chances are excellent your baby will be born really healthy. If you don't mind some advice, the only other thing you can do besides taking care of yourself physically is to avoid stress and get plenty of sleep. If someone is stressing you, avoid them! Make sure to stay in touch with friends, have a good support network. You are going to have a healthy baby! Think positive. :) Keep little mementos of this happy time, so you can remember it later.
Cheers,
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Dec 31, 2007, 06:30 PM
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 Originally Posted by asking
If you don't mind some advice, the only other thing you can do besides taking care of yourself physically is to avoid stress and get plenty of sleep. Asking
My boyfriend laughed when he read that. He got on earlier while I was half way through my 12 hour nap. I get plenty of sleep and I try to avoid stress but being a fulltime college student working a full time job and being full time wife and baby maker is stressful. I sleep all day on the days that I can because I know stress is bad for me. Well I guess not wife. We aren't married yet but we live together and have for awhile so I mite as well be.
Thanks though.
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