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    Nov 27, 2007, 10:46 PM
    And they STILL don't get it.
    Even when it smacks 'em in the face! The cruise ship that sank in the Antarctic on Friday was a ship full of global warming environmentalists going to see for themselves just how bad global warming has gottn.
    Do you think they ran into problems anywhere remotely connected with global warming, over heating??
    NOOOOO! They smacked into an ICEberg and now their carbon footprint is sitting in the bottom of the ocean!!

    Rush called it right and he was joking only to find out his joke was for real!
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    Nov 28, 2007, 06:27 AM
    Looks like you forgot to turn this into a question .

    It certainly doesn't surprise me that eco-nuts would cruise in the frozen tropics (the arctic was once a lush rain forest as geologists have proven http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/01/sc...01climate.html) I wonder if they were sucking down pina colotas ? Interesting point about carbon foot prints. Them crusie ships suck up a lot of petroleum . Turns out the guy running the show is a follower of the Goracle. CFP: Al Gore buddy owner of sunken ship that left huge carbon footprint on Antarctic Ocean floor
    G.A.P. Adventures CEO and Explorer owner, Bruce Poon Tip and Gore have similar ideals, “filling their schedules with speaking engagements on environmental change to educate global audiences.”
    This is just another do as I say not as I do scenario that the global alarmists are fond of doing. I wonder if they will make a return trip to look at the polar bears covered in heavy fuel oil from the spill the ship probably had when it sunk ? I kind of doubt it.
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    Nov 28, 2007, 06:31 AM
    When I saw that cruise ship in the Antarctic I just had to shake my head and think this is just more part of the problem. Like NBC sending their correspondents to the Artic and Antarctic, sucking up energy to keep all that crew going. Stomping on the ice that is supposedly getting thinner every year. Would have been interesting to see Matt Lauer IN that water. What does that prove anyway? Then to hear Ann Curry reporting about the little coffee shop in the Antarctic. Give me a break already!
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    Nov 28, 2007, 06:33 AM
    Is it possible those chunks of ice were the result of cleaving from the ice shelf?
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    Nov 28, 2007, 07:41 AM
    I just want to know what caused the global cooling that turned the lush tropical Arctic into a frozen tundra ? Did the dinosaurs quit driving their SUVs ?
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    Nov 28, 2007, 07:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55
    Did the dinosaurs quit driving their SUVs ?
    The SUV was invented after the dinosaurs died off so I don't think that's the cause.
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    Nov 28, 2007, 07:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55
    I just want to know what caused the global cooling that turned the lush tropical Arctic into a frozen tundra ? Did the dinosaurs quit driving their SUVs ?
    There's a theory that when the meteor that hit the Earth exploded and killed the dinosaurs the it created a layer of dust, debris, and gas in the atmosphere and it ecllipsed the sun, and caused the temperature to drop dramatically. They think this also happened a short time before the dark ages- obviously not to the same extent.

    Pluss there are normal fluxuations in the temperature of Earth, look at other planets mars is having an issue with the runaway refrigerator affect, while Venus is having issues with the runaway greenhouse affect. I think it could be us adding to the problem, but I don't think Venus or Mars has anything living on it (anymore if anything was ever there) so it could be that.
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    Nov 28, 2007, 08:00 AM
    Thought I had this in the political board and
    Tomder the question is Do YOU think they ran into problems anywhere remotely connected with global warming, over heating?? :D

    I heard them polar bears ARE great swimmers!
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    Nov 28, 2007, 08:06 AM
    Repost it in Politics with the question . The administrators are anal about that .

    I heard them polar bears ARE great swimmers!
    Not when they are swimming in an oil slick
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    Nov 28, 2007, 08:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u
    Do YOU think they ran into problems anywhere remotely connected with global warming, over heating??
    Possibly:
    gl017931 1..4

    Field observations and RADARSAT imagery of the
    Ward Hunt Ice Shelf (lat. 83°N, long. 74°W), Nunavut,
    Canada, show that it broke in two over the period 2000 to
    2002, with additional fissuring and further ice island calving.. . The recent collapse of ice shelves in West Antarctica has been interpreted as evidence
    Of accelerated climate change in that region. Similarly, the
    Inferred thinning and observed fragmentation of the ice
    Shelf, plus the drainage of the epishelf lake, are additional
    Evidence for climate change in the High Arctic.
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    Nov 28, 2007, 08:21 AM
    K will do Tomder. That's what I get for getting on the computer when I am half a sleep.
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    Nov 28, 2007, 08:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u
    thought I had this in the political board and
    Tomder the question is Do YOU think they ran into problems anywhere remotely connected with global warming, over heating?????:D

    I heard them polar bears ARE great swimmers!
    You won't find polar bears in the Antarctic unless you're looking at pictures.
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    Nov 28, 2007, 08:36 AM
    Gernard

    Thanks . The relevant point then would be that the warming may be the natural state of the earth and that it takes something like an asteroid hit to cool the planet down to where the glaciers form. The retreat of the glaciers have occurred continuously since then ;and that began long before humans could possilby leave a "carbon foot print" on the planet.
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    Nov 28, 2007, 09:24 AM
    The Icebergs sank their ship? I figured it was a Jewish conspiracy.
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    Nov 28, 2007, 09:26 AM
    I thought it was the polar bears wanting them to quit exploiting them!
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    Nov 28, 2007, 10:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u

    I heard them polar bears ARE great swimmers!
    Yes, but they need the ice to hunt from! :rolleyes:
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    Nov 28, 2007, 10:38 AM
    I am just trying to understand.. are you mad because the environmentalists drive you nuts to begin with and this is an example of a screw up? Or because they were trying to prove something is happening that you don't believe? Or just trying to spark conversation? I guess I don't know what to say... because I think even if you don't believe in global warming, you would have to agree that all wildlife is in jeapordy because of our wasteful ways and so is mother nature. So to bring awareness to any of it, good or bad, is probably NOT a bad thing. Without everything in balance, the world will collapse, no matter what you believe, that is a fact...
    Polar bears are endangered and so are the polar ice caps.. NUFF SAID!! Does it matter why, or do we just need to do what we can to fix it??
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    Nov 28, 2007, 04:29 PM
    Cy·clic (sklk, sklk) or cy·cli·cal (skl-kl, skl-kl)
    adj.
    1.
    a. Of, relating to, or characterized by cycles: a cyclic pattern of weather changes.
    b. Recurring or moving in cycles: cyclical history.
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    Nov 28, 2007, 06:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainRich
    You won't find polar bears in the Antarctic unless you're looking at pictures.
    Thanks I knew it was Penguins in the south pole and polar bears in the North but wasn't sure if da bears were at the s. pole too or not -but then again if they are losing their north pole..

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