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    Nov 12, 2007, 12:05 AM
    Illegal dating?
    M 17 and a girl that I like and likes me back is 13. We have know each other a long time now and want to go out, but we don't know if it is illegal or not. Her parents are fine with us dating and are actually happy about it. We aren't going to have sex. The most we will do is kiss. Is there anything illegal about this that I should be worried about? I've been told that it is considered gross sexual imposition, but I know nothing about that. I'm from Arizona in case that helps and we have a different law. We've tried waiting till she gets older but we only lasted 6 months and it hurts too much to wait any longer, but we don't know if there are any legal issues I should worry about and my mom doesn't want me dating her.
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    Nov 12, 2007, 06:46 PM
    I am only a law student. I don't think dating is an issue. However, if god forbid you do get a excited one-day and have sex, with this girl. Then here is the law of Arizona

    Arizona Revised Statutes Annotated Currentness


    Title 13. Criminal Code (Refs & Annos)

    Chapter 14. Sexual Offenses (Refs & Annos)

    § 13-1405. Sexual conduct with a minor; classifications

    A. A person commits sexual conduct with a minor by intentionally or knowingly engaging in sexual intercourse or oral sexual contact with any person who is under eighteen years of age.

    B. Sexual conduct with a minor who is under fifteen years of age is a class 2 felony and is punishable pursuant to § 13-604.01.

    Pretty much when you turn 18 and you two are still dating, if leads to sex. You'll go to jail and ruin your life, and she goes on with her life. Her family may be okay now, but if you two end up having sex, they can turn on you.

    Haven't you found girls your own age. I know its hard, but listen to your mom. She wants the best for.
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    Nov 12, 2007, 07:07 PM
    While it is not illegal, god only knows what her parents are thinking to even consider letting her go out with a 17 year old.

    But lets think long term, next year you are 18, and she is 14 when you are 19 and she is 15

    So there is little future in it, and most likley you are looking at big chances of being considered a registered sex offender the rest of your life because you will "slip" and have sex one night over the next several years.
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    Nov 12, 2007, 09:36 PM
    As long as your under 18 go for it. After 18 it could be your downfall. You should have a sit down with an attorney. Could be a way to make it work.
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    Nov 12, 2007, 09:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by statictable
    As long as your under 18 go for it. After 18 it could be your downfall. You should have a sit down with an attorney. Could be a way to make it work.
    Static
    I don't quite follow you here?
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    Nov 13, 2007, 02:36 PM
    As long as I'm not doing anything illegal just by dating her I'm fine. Her parents are OK with it because we met at church and have known each other for about three years now. I doubt I will have sex, I've had the chance before with someone else but I didn't want to. I'm abstinent I guess.

    Thanks for the help
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    Nov 13, 2007, 02:43 PM
    I just have to wonder; what does a 17-year old have in common with a 13-year old? The age difference at this point in your lives is significant (if you were 30 and she were 26, that's a little more on the same lines) - so I just wonder, what similarities do you both have that you can build a relationship on? Are there no girls closer to your age which share you interests, which would create a little more acceptable relationship? I mean, is this a girl you would be comfortable bringing to Homecoming, or to your senior prom?

    I'm not saying don't date (I am saying don't sleep with you, you'll ruin your life), but I'm left wondering your motivations.
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    Nov 13, 2007, 02:58 PM
    well I actually did try to bring her to homecoming but they wouldn't let her in so we walked to mcdonalds. But we met at church and do a lot of church groups and trips together. We go skating all the time, go to the mall, talk about school, friends, family, the past, memories, music, what college we each want to go to and what profession we are going to seek, tell jokes, being random, soccer, and other stuff like that. Most of the girls at my school that I know only seem like friends and the other girls mostly where extremely short shorts and compare breast sizes with each other at school everyday during class. The girls that don't act like that I've never talked to before.but I've known her for a long time and that's why I like her.
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    Nov 13, 2007, 03:26 PM
    I certainly understand not wanting to be involved with a girl who is shallow or doesn't share your morals, but why haven't you talked to girls who are your age and do share those interests?

    You don't have to answer that, it's just what I'm left wondering. As you know, it's unusual for a 17-year old boy to be interested in a 13-year old girl.

    If you really like her and her parents approve, I guess go for it. But, as said before, be very careful about a sexual relationship (even heavy petting), as that could very quickly ruin the rest of your life. This girl is a MINOR (and therefore can't consent to sexual acts) and at any time her parents can decide they don't like you and call the cops. Hopefully that won't happen, but be aware.

    Good luck to you.
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    Nov 13, 2007, 03:29 PM
    I agree with the others. Although you do seem to have your head screwed on you have to be very careful. If you 2 do become a couple do you really think you can abstain from wanting sex with her for another 5 years? Big task!
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    Nov 13, 2007, 03:35 PM
    I don't even want to kiss right now
    I know she's young and I believe if we take things slow we will have a better relationship if we care about each other instead of sexual things
    I like hugs better kissing
    My ex broke up with me because I wouldn't have sex with her
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    Nov 13, 2007, 03:39 PM
    Look that's fine , like I said it looks like you have your head screwed on right at the moment and I hope you don't think we are trying to condemn you here. BUT you have to remember what you feel now could be very different to what you will be feeling in a year or two's time. So what I and the others are saying to you is BE CAREFUL that's all. I wish you luck in whatever you decide.
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    Nov 13, 2007, 03:40 PM
    I was 17 and with 25 yr old girls. When I was 25 I was with 30 yr old girls. Why even put yourself in a spot like that? That's just crazy. There are plenty girls out there kid. You slip up and get a rape charge you will be raped in jail.
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    Nov 13, 2007, 10:07 PM
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    Thanks, this really helped a lot, I've been searching for something like that a lot

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