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    Oct 31, 2007, 12:22 PM
    Bush & Co.'You Can't Handle the Truth'
    This is the truth that Bush and Co thinks you can't handle:::... "the U.S. could not tolerate the possibility that the second-largest oil bonanza on Earth might be held beyond our reach by a dictator who hated us.

    The fact is, the U.S. uses fully one-quarter of the world's oil, but we possess only about two percent of its reserves, and we rely on imports for about 60% of our consumption.

    Meanwhile, *Peak Oil* is either just behind us, or nearly upon us...

    Without guaranteed access to Iraq's oil, we absolutely could not maintain our military and economic dominance of the world. Vice President Cheney has known this, even spoken publicly about it, for many years. And why else would he have convened a meeting of Big Oil representatives within his first month in the White House to pore over maps of Iraq's oil fields, as if that were the top priority of the administration?"...

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    Protestors against the invasion of Iraq yelled this slogan... "No blood for oil"... after Bush's horrific and catastrophic mismanagement of the Iraq War and poor diplomacy, it looks like we will be living with this new slogan... ***LOTS OF BLOOD, NO OIL***

    Will we see any candidates addressing the oil issue next year on the campaign trail?
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    Oct 31, 2007, 12:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Choux
    This is the truth that Bush and Co thinks you can't handle:::...."the U.S. could not tolerate the possibility that the second-largest oil bonanza on Earth might be held beyond our reach by a dictator who hated us.

    The fact is, the U.S. uses fully one-quarter of the world's oil, but we possess only about two percent of its reserves, and we rely on imports for about 60% of our consumption.

    Meanwhile, *Peak Oil* is either just behind us, or nearly upon us...

    Without guaranteed access to Iraq's oil, we absolutely could not maintain our military and economic dominance of the world. Vice President Cheney has known this, even spoken publicly about it, for many years. And why else would he have convened a meeting of Big Oil representatives within his first month in the White House to pore over maps of Iraq's oil fields, as if that were the top priority of the administration?".........

    ----------------------------------------------------------

    Protestors against the invasion of Iraq yelled this slogan..."No blood for oil"......after Bush's horrific and catastrophic mismanagement of the Iraq War and poor diplomacy, it looks like we will be living with this new slogan...***LOTS OF BLOOD, NO OIL***

    Will we see any candidates addressing the oil issue next year on the campaign trail??
    Without access to Middle East oil the world economy would fail; that's the truth that Bush understands and it's too bad others don't realize that truth. Of course anti-Capitalist would love nothing better and they are behind the propaganda slopped into the trough of leftist feeding piglets.
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    Oct 31, 2007, 12:38 PM
    Allow me to re-post something I posted earlier today, and let me know if you see the word "oil" in there:

    Current members of the UN Security Council
    Membership in 2007

    The Council is composed of five permanent members — China, France, Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States — and ten non-permament members (with year of term's end):

    Belgium (2008) Italy (2008) Qatar (2007) Congo (2007) Panama (2008) Slovakia (2007)
    Ghana (2007) Peru (2007) South Africa (2008) Indonesia (2008)

    In an earlier post, I stated that Saddam was in violation of 13 UN Security Council Resolutions. I was wrong. It was actually 17. From the U.S. State Department website:

    Saddam Hussein's Defiance of United Nations Resolutions
    Saddam Hussein has repeatedly violated seventeen United Nations Security Council Resolutions (UNSCRs) designed to ensure that Iraq does not pose a threat to international peace and security. In addition to these repeated violations, he has tried, over the past decade, to circumvent UN economic sanctions against Iraq, which are reflected in a number of other resolutions. As noted in the resolutions, Saddam Hussein was required to fulfill many obligations beyond the withdrawal of Iraqi forces from Kuwait. Specifically, Saddam Hussein was required to, among other things: allow international weapons inspectors to oversee the destruction of his weapons of mass destruction; not develop new weapons of mass destruction; destroy all of his ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 kilometers; stop support for terrorism and prevent terrorist organizations from operating within Iraq; help account for missing Kuwaitis and other individuals; return stolen Kuwaiti property and bear financial liability for damage from the Gulf War; and he was required to end his repression of the Iraqi people. Saddam Hussein has repeatedly violated each of the following resolutions:
    UNSCR 1441 - November 8, 2002
    • Called for the immediate and complete disarmament of Iraq and its prohibited weapons.
    • Iraq must provide UNMOVIC and the IAEA full access to Iraqi facilities, individuals, means of transportation, and documents.
    • States that the Security Council has repeatedly warned Iraq and that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations.
    UNSCR 1284 - December 17, 1999
    • Created the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspections Commission (UNMOVIC) to replace previous weapon inspection team (UNSCOM).
    • Iraq must allow UNMOVIC "immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access" to Iraqi officials and facilities.
    • Iraq must fulfill its commitment to return Gulf War prisoners.
    • Calls on Iraq to distribute humanitarian goods and medical supplies to its people and address the needs of vulnerable Iraqis without discrimination.
    UNSCR 1205 - November 5, 1998
    • "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 31 October 1998 to cease cooperation" with UN inspectors as "a flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687 and other resolutions.
    • Iraq must provide "immediate, complete and unconditional cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspectors.
    UNSCR 1194 - September 9, 1998
    • "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 5 August 1998 to suspend cooperation with" UN and IAEA inspectors, which constitutes "a totally unacceptable contravention" of its obligations under UNSCR 687, 707, 715, 1060, 1115, and 1154.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors, and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    UNSCR 1154 - March 2, 1998
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access, and notes that any violation would have the "severest consequences for Iraq."
    UNSCR 1137 - November 12, 1997
    • "Condemns the continued violations by Iraq" of previous UN resolutions, including its "implicit threat to the safety of" aircraft operated by UN inspectors and its tampering with UN inspector monitoring equipment.
    • Reaffirms Iraq's responsibility to ensure the safety of UN inspectors.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    UNSCR 1134 - October 23, 1997
    • "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    • Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
    UNSCR 1115 - June 21, 1997
    • "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "clear and flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    • Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
    UNSCR 1060 - June 12, 1996
    • "Deplores" Iraq's refusal to allow access to UN inspectors and Iraq's "clear violations" of previous UN resolutions.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    UNSCR 1051 - March 27, 1996
    • Iraq must report shipments of dual-use items related to weapons of mass destruction to the UN and IAEA.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    UNSCR 949 - October 15, 1994
    • "Condemns" Iraq's recent military deployments toward Kuwait.
    • Iraq must not utilize its military or other forces in a hostile manner to threaten its neighbors or UN operations in Iraq.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors.
    • Iraq must not enhance its military capability in southern Iraq.
    UNSCR 715 - October 11, 1991
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors.
    UNSCR 707 - August 15, 1991
    • "Condemns" Iraq's "serious violation" of UNSCR 687.
    • "Further condemns" Iraq's noncompliance with IAEA and its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
    • Iraq must halt nuclear activities of all kinds until the Security Council deems Iraq in full compliance.
    • Iraq must make a full, final and complete disclosure of all aspects of its weapons of mass destruction and missile programs.
    • Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    • Iraq must cease attempts to conceal or move weapons of mass destruction, and related materials and facilities.
    • Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors to conduct inspection flights throughout Iraq.
    • Iraq must provide transportation, medical and logistical support for UN and IAEA inspectors.
    UNSCR 688 - April 5, 1991
    • "Condemns" repression of Iraqi civilian population, "the consequences of which threaten international peace and security."
    • Iraq must immediately end repression of its civilian population.
    • Iraq must allow immediate access to international humanitarian organizations to those in need of assistance.
    UNSCR 687 - April 3, 1991
    • Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "chemical and biological weapons and all stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all research, development, support and manufacturing facilities."
    • Iraq must "unconditionally agree not to acquire or develop nuclear weapons or nuclear-weapons-usable material" or any research, development or manufacturing facilities.
    • Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 KM and related major parts and repair and production facilities."
    • Iraq must not "use, develop, construct or acquire" any weapons of mass destruction.
    • Iraq must reaffirm its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
    • Creates the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) to verify the elimination of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons programs and mandated that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) verify elimination of Iraq's nuclear weapons program.
    • Iraq must declare fully its weapons of mass destruction programs.
    • Iraq must not commit or support terrorism, or allow terrorist organizations to operate in Iraq.
    • Iraq must cooperate in accounting for the missing and dead Kuwaitis and others.
    • Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
    UNSCR 686 - March 2, 1991
    • Iraq must release prisoners detained during the Gulf War.
    • Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
    • Iraq must accept liability under international law for damages from its illegal invasion of Kuwait.
    UNSCR 678 - November 29, 1990
    • Iraq must comply fully with UNSCR 660 (regarding Iraq's illegal invasion of Kuwait) "and all subsequent relevant resolutions."
    • Authorizes UN Member States "to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area."

    Additional UN Security Council Statements

    In addition to the legally binding UNSCRs, the UN Security Council has also issued at least 30 statements from the President of the UN Security Council regarding Saddam Hussein's continued violations of UNSCRs.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Every resolution was backed by the threat of force. Of the 15 member nations of the Security Council listed above, which ones have carried through, and which ones have totally bailed and ignored THEIR OWN RESOLUTIONS??

    Oh, and by the way, I didn't see "oil" listed anywhere in those resolutions. Did I just miss it?
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    Oct 31, 2007, 12:41 PM
    Kindaj

    So what!! Is that supposed to mean oil is not an issue, certainly not
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    Oct 31, 2007, 12:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by kindj
    Each and every resolution was backed by the threat of force. Of the 15 member nations of the Security Council listed above, which ones have carried through, and which ones have totally bailed and ignored THEIR OWN RESOLUTIONS???

    Oh, and by the way, I didn't see "oil" listed anywhere in those resolutions. Did I just miss it?
    Meaningless facts, Dennis. At least to those suffering from BDS.
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    Oct 31, 2007, 12:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    Kindaj

    So what!!!!!!!!!! Is that supposed to mean oil is not an issue, certainly not
    No, that's not what it's supposed to mean.

    It's supposed to mean that there were legitimate, legal, and multi-national concerns and interests at stake, and as important as it is, oil didn't even make the list.

    It's a response to the whole silly notion of "blood for oil."

    If we REALLY wanted a WHOLE MESS of oil, we'd invade Siberia, not the desert.
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    Oct 31, 2007, 12:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    Meaningless facts, Dennis. At least to those suffering from BDS.
    I’ll try you… So what!! Is that supposed to mean oil is not an issue, certainly not:D
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    Oct 31, 2007, 12:58 PM
    Choux, I really don't know why you're wasting your breath here. Everyone knows oil was a factor, I seem to recall tom having answered that adequately already.

    Do you not see the irony in posting an accusation of Bush of going to war for oil while complaining that he didn't get any? I remember reading something about not being able to see the irony in your own beliefs...

    Steve
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    Oct 31, 2007, 01:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    I’ll try you… So what!!!!!!!!!! Is that supposed to mean oil is not an issue, certainly not:D
    DC, the whole premise of Choux's uncited excerpt is as Dennis said "the whole silly notion of "blood for oil," only Choux seems to be complaining that we didn't get any. Her question is "Will we see any candidates addressing the oil issue next year on the campaign trail? " That's the question even YOU failed to answer.
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    Oct 31, 2007, 01:27 PM
    Try to focus... we are not getting any oil, and likely won't in the future because of many more terrorists and saboteurs who were generated by Bush's invasion of Iraq on false pretenses... in fact, the whole middle east is about to blow up at any time, in my opinion.

    THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME IS HOW AMERICA WILL GET OIL AND MILITARY INVASION WITH INSUFFICIENT FORCES HAS PROVEN A *BAD PLAN* BECAUSE IT WAS A FAILURE. OIL IS ALMOST $100.00 A BARREL AND THE PRICE IS NOT LIKELY TO GO DOWN.

    Bush's shame... ******.LOTS OF BLOOD, NO OIL*****

    My question was, will the political candidates address the issue of oil??


    Ps Sorry I didn't give a source, I forgot. Not intentional.
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    Oct 31, 2007, 01:39 PM
    By the way, Tex, how dare you tell me what I should post here when you post ABOUT WHAT TOY SOLDIERS *SHOULD WEAR* and then, insult George Clooney. That's politics?? Sounds like fascist propaganda aimed at stupid people.

    THIS BOARD IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY.

    I WILL POST ABOUT OIL AND POLITICS ***THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME**** AS I PLEASE.

    Cordially,
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    Oct 31, 2007, 01:49 PM
    Firmbeliever, I have to maintain cordial relations with the fascists here, Tex, Tom, Elliot the Wolverine, and kinji...

    Arguments can get heated when discussion politics, and apparently, what toys should wear. ;)
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    Oct 31, 2007, 01:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Choux
    firmbeliever, I have to maintain cordial relations with the fascists here, Tex, Tom, Elliot the Wolverine, and kinji.....
    Ok, I give... when do the cordial relations begin? Haven't you about used up your quota of the word "fascist" for the day? :D
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    Oct 31, 2007, 02:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Choux
    By the way, Tex, how dare you tell me what I should post here when you post ABOUT WHAT TOY SOLDIERS *SHOULD WEAR* and then, insult George Clooney. That's politics?? Sounds like fascist propaganda aimed at stupid people.

    THIS BOARD IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY.

    I WILL POST ABOUT OIL AND POLITICS ***THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME**** AS I PLEASE.

    Cordially,
    Post what you like. In fact, the more you post the better. :D

    "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." -Kierkegaard

    "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." -Hubert H. Humphrey

    "I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom of speech was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking." -Woodrow Wilson
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    Oct 31, 2007, 02:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Choux
    Try to focus......we are not getting any oil, and likely won't in the future because of many more terrorists and saboteurs who were generated by Bush's invasion of Iraq on false pretenses......in fact, the whole middle east is about to blow up at any time, in my opinion.

    THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME IS HOW AMERICA WILL GET OIL AND MILITARY INVASION WITH INSUFFICIENT FORCES HAS PROVEN A *BAD PLAN* BECAUSE IT WAS A FAILURE. OIL IS ALMOST $100.00 A BARREL AND THE PRICE IS NOT LIKELY TO GO DOWN.

    Bush's shame....******.LOTS OF BLOOD, NO OIL*****

    My question was, will the political candidates address the issue of oil????


    ps Sorry I didn't give a source, I forgot. Not intentional.
    A couple of things sweet cheeks…One 9/11 happened before we invaded Iraq.

    Two, America can purchase all the oil it wants.
    Three, among other things, this is not a war for oil. It is a war to control the profits that flow from oil.
    :D :D :D :D
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    Oct 31, 2007, 02:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Choux
    By the way, Tex, how dare you tell me what I should post here when you post ABOUT WHAT TOY SOLDIERS *SHOULD WEAR* and then, insult George Clooney. That's politics??? Sounds like fascist propaganda aimed at stupid people.

    THIS BOARD IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY.

    I WILL POST ABOUT OIL AND POLITICS ***THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME**** AS I PLEASE.

    Cordially,
    First of all, I didn't tell you what you could and couldn't post here.

    Second, I didn't post the question about toy clothing. I did, however, respond to it. Forgive me if I forgot to ask, "Mother, may I?"

    Third, enough with the "fascist" thing. It's getting really old. My eyes are tired from rolling all the time.

    Fourth, the board is not my personal property--you are correct. However, neither is it yours.

    Fifth, post about oil and politics to your little heart's content. You can do that. You can also get pissed off when people have opposing opinions--that too is your right.

    Sixth, to sum it all up: I, too, will post as a please and I really don't think you're in much of a position to tell me not "to dare" post a blasted thing.
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    Oct 31, 2007, 02:49 PM
    Choux:

    There is this thing called supply and demand.

    When demand increases [ energy consumption by the US but also increasingly by India, China, and the rest of the world ] and supply is limited / finite / constrained [ no offshore drilling, no anwr drilling for example ] the price of [ oil ] will go up.

    And think about this: if the whole purpose of going to Iraq was for oil why hasn't the evil conspiring, rights trampling, dumb etc... Bush and company not just taken over Iraq, take their oil fields and declare Iraq a colony of ours?

    Instead, they get elections, we are waiting for the political solution among Iraqi factions, and our military is trying to protect and build up Iraqi infrastructure.






    Grace and Peace
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    Oct 31, 2007, 04:31 PM
    Teetering on the edge of unclear. The overall meaning remains discernible, but it becomes possible to lose oneself in corollary thoughts, which may be worth exploration, but which can also detract from the core point of the written article.;)

    Never the less, it is certifiably Bull Free:D
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    Quote Originally Posted by kindj

    Saddam Hussein's Defiance of United Nations Resolutions
    Saddam Hussein has repeatedly violated seventeen United Nations Security Council Resolutions (UNSCRs) designed to ensure that Iraq does not pose a threat to international peace and security. In addition to these repeated violations, he has tried, over the past decade, to circumvent UN economic sanctions against Iraq, which are reflected in a number of other resolutions. As noted in the resolutions, Saddam Hussein was required to fulfill many obligations beyond the withdrawal of Iraqi forces from Kuwait. Specifically, Saddam Hussein was required to, among other things: allow international weapons inspectors to oversee the destruction of his weapons of mass destruction; not develop new weapons of mass destruction; destroy all of his ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 kilometers; stop support for terrorism and prevent terrorist organizations from operating within Iraq; help account for missing Kuwaitis and other individuals; return stolen Kuwaiti property and bear financial liability for damage from the Gulf War; and he was required to end his repression of the Iraqi people. Saddam Hussein has repeatedly violated each of the following resolutions:
    UNSCR 1441 - November 8, 2002
    • Called for the immediate and complete disarmament of Iraq and its prohibited weapons.
    • Iraq must provide UNMOVIC and the IAEA full access to Iraqi facilities, individuals, means of transportation, and documents.
    • States that the Security Council has repeatedly warned Iraq and that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations.
    UNSCR 1284 - December 17, 1999
    • Created the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspections Commission (UNMOVIC) to replace previous weapon inspection team (UNSCOM).
    • Iraq must allow UNMOVIC "immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access" to Iraqi officials and facilities.
    • Iraq must fulfill its commitment to return Gulf War prisoners.
    • Calls on Iraq to distribute humanitarian goods and medical supplies to its people and address the needs of vulnerable Iraqis without discrimination.
    UNSCR 1205 - November 5, 1998
    • "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 31 October 1998 to cease cooperation" with UN inspectors as "a flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687 and other resolutions.
    • Iraq must provide "immediate, complete and unconditional cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspectors.
    UNSCR 1194 - September 9, 1998
    • "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 5 August 1998 to suspend cooperation with" UN and IAEA inspectors, which constitutes "a totally unacceptable contravention" of its obligations under UNSCR 687, 707, 715, 1060, 1115, and 1154.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors, and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    UNSCR 1154 - March 2, 1998
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access, and notes that any violation would have the "severest consequences for Iraq."
    UNSCR 1137 - November 12, 1997
    • "Condemns the continued violations by Iraq" of previous UN resolutions, including its "implicit threat to the safety of" aircraft operated by UN inspectors and its tampering with UN inspector monitoring equipment.
    • Reaffirms Iraq's responsibility to ensure the safety of UN inspectors.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    UNSCR 1134 - October 23, 1997
    • "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    • Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
    UNSCR 1115 - June 21, 1997
    • "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "clear and flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    • Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
    UNSCR 1060 - June 12, 1996
    • "Deplores" Iraq's refusal to allow access to UN inspectors and Iraq's "clear violations" of previous UN resolutions.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    UNSCR 1051 - March 27, 1996
    • Iraq must report shipments of dual-use items related to weapons of mass destruction to the UN and IAEA.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    UNSCR 949 - October 15, 1994
    • "Condemns" Iraq's recent military deployments toward Kuwait.
    • Iraq must not utilize its military or other forces in a hostile manner to threaten its neighbors or UN operations in Iraq.
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors.
    • Iraq must not enhance its military capability in southern Iraq.
    UNSCR 715 - October 11, 1991
    • Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors.
    UNSCR 707 - August 15, 1991
    • "Condemns" Iraq's "serious violation" of UNSCR 687.
    • "Further condemns" Iraq's noncompliance with IAEA and its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
    • Iraq must halt nuclear activities of all kinds until the Security Council deems Iraq in full compliance.
    • Iraq must make a full, final and complete disclosure of all aspects of its weapons of mass destruction and missile programs.
    • Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
    • Iraq must cease attempts to conceal or move weapons of mass destruction, and related materials and facilities.
    • Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors to conduct inspection flights throughout Iraq.
    • Iraq must provide transportation, medical and logistical support for UN and IAEA inspectors.
    UNSCR 688 - April 5, 1991
    • "Condemns" repression of Iraqi civilian population, "the consequences of which threaten international peace and security."
    • Iraq must immediately end repression of its civilian population.
    • Iraq must allow immediate access to international humanitarian organizations to those in need of assistance.
    UNSCR 687 - April 3, 1991
    • Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "chemical and biological weapons and all stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all research, development, support and manufacturing facilities."
    • Iraq must "unconditionally agree not to acquire or develop nuclear weapons or nuclear-weapons-usable material" or any research, development or manufacturing facilities.
    • Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 KM and related major parts and repair and production facilities."
    • Iraq must not "use, develop, construct or acquire" any weapons of mass destruction.
    • Iraq must reaffirm its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
    • Creates the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) to verify the elimination of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons programs and mandated that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) verify elimination of Iraq's nuclear weapons program.
    • Iraq must declare fully its weapons of mass destruction programs.
    • Iraq must not commit or support terrorism, or allow terrorist organizations to operate in Iraq.
    • Iraq must cooperate in accounting for the missing and dead Kuwaitis and others.
    • Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
    UNSCR 686 - March 2, 1991
    • Iraq must release prisoners detained during the Gulf War.
    • Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
    • Iraq must accept liability under international law for damages from its illegal invasion of Kuwait.
    UNSCR 678 - November 29, 1990
    • Iraq must comply fully with UNSCR 660 (regarding Iraq's illegal invasion of Kuwait) "and all subsequent relevant resolutions."
    • Authorizes UN Member States "to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area."

    Additional UN Security Council Statements

    In addition to the legally binding UNSCRs, the UN Security Council has also issued at least 30 statements from the President of the UN Security Council regarding Saddam Hussein's continued violations of UNSCRs.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Each and every resolution was backed by the threat of force. Of the 15 member nations of the Security Council listed above, which ones have carried through, and which ones have totally bailed and ignored THEIR OWN RESOLUTIONS???

    Oh, and by the way, I didn't see "oil" listed anywhere in those resolutions. Did I just miss it?
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    Nov 1, 2007, 03:42 AM
    What does the oft mentioned term "American Interests "mean ? Presumably economics is part of American interests .
    I can cite a number of doctrines by Presidents during the cold war where the primary focus was to keep the Soviets from dominating the ME and it's resources

    Modern History Sourcebook: President Eisenhower: The Eisenhower Doctrine, A Message to Congress, January 5, 1957

    Stalin's death brought hope that this pattern would change. And we read the pledge of the Warsaw Treaty of 1955 that the Soviet Union would follow in satellite countries "the principles of mutual respect for their independence and sovereignty and non-interference in domestic affairs." But we have just seen the subjugation of Hungary by naked armed force. In the aftermath of this Hungarian tragedy, world respect for and belief in Soviet promises have sunk to a new low. International Communism needs and seeks a recognizable Success.

    Thus, we have these simple and indisputable facts:

    1.The Middle East, which has always been coveted by Russia, would today be prized more than ever by International Communism.

    2.The Soviet rulers continue to show that they do not scruple to use any incans to gain their ends.

    3.The free nations of the Mid East need, and for the most part want, added strength to assure their continued independence.
    Nixon Doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The doctrine was also applied by the Nixon administration in the Persian Gulf region, with military aid to Iran and Saudi Arabia, so that these U.S. allies could undertake the responsibility of ensuring peace and stability in the region. According to Michael Klare, author of Blood and Oil: The Dangers and Consequences of America's Growing Petroleum Dependency (New York: Henry Holt, 2004), application of the Nixon Doctrine "opened the floodgates" of U.S. military aid to allies in the Persian Gulf, and helped set the stage for the Carter Doctrine and for the subsequent direct U.S. military involvement of the Gulf War and the Iraq War.
    The Carter DoctrineState of the Union Address 1980

    The region which is now threatened by Soviet troops in Afghanistan is of great strategic importance: It contains more than two-thirds of the world's exportable oil. The Soviet effort to dominate Afghanistan has brought Soviet military forces to within 300 miles of the Indian Ocean and close to the Straits of Hormuz, a waterway through which most of the world's oil must flow. The Soviet Union is now attempting to consolidate a strategic position, therefore, that poses a grave threat to the free movement of Middle East oil.
    Of course at least part of the consideration about invading Iraq was about oil. Desert Storm was fought to keep Saddam from seizing the oil fields of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait .OIF was an extension of Desert Storm. Beyond all the UN sanctions that were violated on DKs list there were also a cease fire agreement that was violated routinely .

    But the idea that the intent was for US corporations to profit from the seizure of Iraqi oil is disproven by subsequent events .

    The Iraqi government has passed a law that says all antebellum agreements that Saddam made can be renegotiated with them . This includes a 1997 deal to explore the Al-Ahdab field, worth $1.2 billion, that was signed by China National Petroleum Corp. So I do not see how it can be claimed that the war was to secure Iraqi resources for American use.
    Iraqi President Jalal Talabani already visited China to finalize the deal with President Hu Jintao of China .

    Speaking of China ,and since the latest increase in the price of oil has been cited ,I think it is important to point out that the increased demand that China's economic expansion created is more of a factor on the price than the volatility of the political situation in the ME is (although it is part of the equation as well as the decline in the US dollar)
    Dar Al Hayat

    Oh wait ! Let me put on my tin foil hat for a bit.. . OK I get it . China has a huge demand for oil to fuel their expansion ,and it is in the US interest that they pay a primo price for it. So we invaded Iraq not to secure a cheap source for ourselves ,but instead to make sure China is strapped with a heavy price .Damn that diabolical Cheney !

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