[ETWolverine]

Much older and wiser than the current Dalai Lama's words are the words of Ecclesiastes (Chapter 2, verses 1-8).

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace.

Seems to me that the Dalai Lama is ignoring or wishes to forget that sometimes we need to be warlike in the pursuit of freedom and justice.

Elliot

[NeedKarma]

ETWolverine agrees: No. He got the point. The point was clearly to take the opportunity to bash Bush in a topic that had nothing to do with Bush. Why even bring him up, other than to trash him?

Oh you mean like you did here about liberals?
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/politi...tml#post682079

"In many ways, it is similar to how I compare liberal thinking to cotton candy: it looks nice and feels good on first examination, but as you get into it more you find that it is mostly fluff and hot air, and isn't really any good for you."

[excon]

Hello again:

You guy's are perfect for this thread. You've made it clear that we actually hate each other. At this rate, we are NOT about to work together. We don't talk - we yell. Ain't nothing going to get solved that way.

Even if the Dalai isn't particularly articulate, his solution is better than ours.

excon

[ETWolverine]

Where's the insult, Needkama? I didn't insult liberals. I made a comment about liberal thinking and how the Dalai Lama's thinking is similar to liberal thinking. It wasn't insulting. Perhaps you feel insulted by it because deep down you feel that there is something about liberalism to be insulted about. That ain't my problem.

You and Chou, on the other hand, did make personal insults against a specific person. Whole different ball of wax.

Elliot

[NeedKarma]

Dear Elliot,
I did not insult a specific person, I made a comment about the neo-cons and their way of thinking and the results of such. Perhaps you feel insulted by it because deep down you feel that there is something about neo-conservatism to be insulted about. That ain't my problem either.

[NeedKarma]

Here kindj, let me help you out:
Definition of megalomania - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
1 : a mania for great or grandiose performance
2 : a delusional mental disorder that is marked by feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur

[kindj]

Here kindj, let me help you out:
Definition of megalomania - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
1 : a mania for great or grandiose performance
2 : a delusional mental disorder that is marked by feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur

Mania... mental disorder...

So one of two things is happening here. Either:

1. You know Bush and his administration personally, AND are a trained psychological evaluator, thus knowing for a fact that they all suffer from some sort of mental disorder;

-or-

2. You are making speculations and/or generalizations based solely upon them having taken actions that you do not agree with/would not have taken, when you obviously are in a position to do so, having access to all the same up-to-the-day intelligence reports, experience, and general knowledge that they have.

Pick one of those, and I'll withdraw my comment about being insulting.

[NeedKarma]

It's my opinion based on his actions.

[excon]

Oy vey!

[Choux]

Tom, You mentioned the Pope and then SPOKE FOR ME about what I would say about a man of peace. He always speaks againt waging war in the middle east and encourages Catholics like yourself to pray for peace.

Since you and your fascist neo-Con friends are bashing the Dalai Lama when he speaks for peace in the world, I have to reming you - when you make the heinous Nazi comment above - that you as a Catholic KNOW THAT POPE PIUS 12 DID **VIRTUALLY NOTHING** DURING WWII TO STOP THE HOLOCAUST.

I KNOW IT, THE JEWS KNOW IT, AND EDUCATED PEOPLE KNOW IT.

[Dark_crow]

Visionary and inspiring

[Choux]

Kinji, The question was about the ideas The Dalai Lama wrote about in his article on PEACE.

All you and your fascist friends were able to comment on were PERSONAL ATTACKS AND INSINUATIONS against The Dalai Lama and NOW AGAINST ME!

I challenge you: write about the article about peace just as the question asked. No ad hominem attacks against ANYBODY!

[macksmom]

Visionary and inspiring :D

[tomder55]

Choux I speak of facts . The Dalhi Lama to this day has not distanced himself from his Nazi associations !

[kindj]

No ad hominem attacks against ANYBODY!

I think the difference is that I know that facts do NOT equal "attacks." Let's look at REAL attacks, shall we?

"Just anothe grandiose hypocrite." (Choux, 8/4)

"We already had a President who was *NOT A MAN*....He's sitting in the White House right now with his head up his butt." (Choux, 9/20)

"I"m not a fascist like *you*…I don't need a fascist like yourself telling me…Fascists like you and your Board friends Tom and Tex." (Choux, 9/24)

"war started by a moron(Bush)… his civilian airhead neo-Cons" (Choux, 10/16)

"He [Bush] had a glow about him; a glow like a guy high on something....alcohol, pills....he was GLOWING. I saw that look many, many times on my father when he was drunk. We know the drunken glow, don't we folks….Republican-Fascist lies and hypocrisy." (Choux, 10/18)

"the Republican-Fascist candidate" (Choux, 10/24)

"you and your fascist neo-Con friends" (Choux, 10/24)

"you and your fascist friends" (Choux, 10/25)

"Glad to see you put on your tinfoil hat. Helps block the Satanic Rays controlling your thoughts, does it?" (Choux, 10/23)

There can obviously be no meaningful exchange of opposing ideas with you. You continually use GENUINE attacks and name-calling against those with whom you disagree.

So what would be the point?

[NeedKarma]

kindj,
Those are also facts.

[magprob]

What Is Political Correctness?
Political Correctness (PC) is the communal tyranny that erupted in the 1980s. It was a spontaneous declaration that particular ideas, expressions and behaviour, which were then legal, should be forbidden by law, and people who transgressed should be punished. (see Newspeak) It started with a few voices but grew in popularity until it became unwritten and written law within the community. With those who were publicly declared as being not politically correct becoming the object of persecution by the mob, if not prosecution by the state.

The Odious Nature Of Political Correctness
To attempt to point out the odious nature of Political Correctness is to restate the crucial importance of plain speaking, freedom of choice and freedom of speech; these are the community's safe-guards against the imposition of tyranny, indeed their absence is tyranny (see "On Liberty", Chapter II, by J.S. Mill). Which is why any such restrictions on expression such as those invoked by the laws of libel, slander and public decency, are grave matters to be decided by common law methodology; not by the dictates of the mob.

Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion. Wikipedia

What do neoconservatives believe?
"Neocons" believe that the United States should not be ashamed to use its unrivaled power – forcefully if necessary – to promote its values around the world. Some even speak of the need to cultivate a US empire. Neoconservatives believe modern threats facing the US can no longer be reliably contained and therefore must be prevented, sometimes through preemptive military action.

Most neocons believe that the US has allowed dangers to gather by not spending enough on defense and not confronting threats aggressively enough. One such threat, they contend, was Saddam Hussein and his pursuit of weapons of mass destruction. Since the 1991 Gulf War, neocons relentlessly advocated Mr. Hussein's ouster.

Most neocons share unwavering support for Israel, which they see as crucial to US military sufficiency in a volatile region. They also see Israel as a key outpost of democracy in a region ruled by despots. Believing that authoritarianism and theocracy have allowed anti-Americanism to flourish in the Middle East, neocons advocate the democratic transformation of the region, starting with Iraq. They also believe the US is unnecessarily hampered by multilateral institutions, which they do not trust to effectively neutralize threats to global security.

[magprob]

To Whom it may concern:
If I think Bush is a Moron I will tell you so. That is my right. If I think our government is Fascist, I will tell you that too. I think they are. They are in bed with the corporations. They are the corporations! DUH! That makes them fascist. If you don't like politically "uncorrect" people, then find a circle jerk more to your liking. Most of all, stop bashing people that tell it like it is-politically uncorrect folks.

[kindj]

kindj,
Those are also facts.

Prove them.

[NeedKarma]

Nah. I don't have the free time that you do.

But here's the definition of fascism:
Definition of fascism - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

1: often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Many believe that fits perfectly with the actions of the current administration.