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    #61

    Oct 18, 2007, 11:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by deist
    You must not read all the posts. I have said on several occasions that I believe in a God.
    You say you believe in God but you say you believe in the big bang? Make up your mind. You are confusing people. Where do you stand? What do you believe? Who do you believe in? What is the name of your god?
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    #62

    Oct 18, 2007, 11:34 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot
    you are so right!! the only reason why evolutionist say the earth is millions of years old is because they need that many years to defend thier theory. the theory of evolution's basisically says over billions of years anything can happen. So basically if you had a 2 monkies on typewriters randonmly typying over billions of years, they would eventually at one point come up with All of shakespears works (Romeo&J , Othelo, Hamlet etc) incuding all the sonnets and rhyming couplets. Thats is highy impropable even over billions of years.. I dont know why today still believe in that theory when the creator of the theory charlse darwin, doubted his own theory.

    THAT IS GREAT! I can just picture two monkeys now, they would be geniuses after a billion/million years.
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    Oct 18, 2007, 11:36 AM
    silentrascal disagrees: Your credibility is likewise shot

    I feel bad for you. I was pointing out the hypocrisy in your comment about someone's credibility and you resort to character assassination. While you attacked another's credibilty, your argument was that the person was not an expert and therefore not credible because they were not present at the writing. This would make everyone posting not credible, including yourself, because we were not present for the translating. Character assassination is a low blow. I will not reply to any more of this type of post from you.
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    #64

    Oct 18, 2007, 11:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by savedsinner7
    I feel bad for you. I was pointing out the hypocrisy in your comment about someone's credibility and you resort to character assassination. While you attacked another's credibilty, your argument was that the person was not an expert and therefore not credible because they were not present at the writing. This would make everyone posting not credible, including yourself, because we were not present for the translating. Character assassination is a low blow. I will not reply to any more of this type of post from you.
    That's why this poster has the avatar that was given to them.
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    Oct 18, 2007, 11:57 AM
    What do you mean?
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    That's why this poster has the avatar that was given to them.
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    #66

    Oct 18, 2007, 12:02 PM
    Haha, my bad, I get silentrascal and tatertot mixed up all the time. Same messages and delivery I guess. Sorry about that.
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    #67

    Oct 18, 2007, 12:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot
    you say you believe in God but you say you believe in the big bang?? make up your mind. You are confusing people. Where do you stand? what do you believe? who do you believe in?? what is the name of your god?
    Everyone accepts the big bang theory, even christians. Christians believe it was the moment God said, "Let there be light".
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    #68

    Oct 18, 2007, 01:53 PM
    Deist:

    First off , I want to reassure you about the Christian reconstructionists. I am not one of them.
    You may even consider me a fundamentalist, if so, Romans 13 should help alay your fears.


    As to the Big Bang Theory, how does that not violate the first law of thermodynamics?

    Even avowed atheists like Crick, of Dna double helix fame, had to come up with another even more improbable and theory, panspermia, that is less likely to be been proven than God or evolution.
    Crick discovered the complexity of Dna and as a scientist could not explain how evolution would account for this.


    Then there is proteonomics
    Proteomics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "E.g., in human there are about 25 000 identified genes but an estimated >500 000 proteins that are derived from these genes. This increased complexity derives from mechanisms such as alternative splicing, protein modification (glycosylation,phosphorylation) and protein degradation."

    Now if the origin of DNA cannot be explained or experimentally reproduced how can the origin of ribosomes, mrna, amino acids interacting in a cell be proved or reproduced?



    Now I understand the argument that science will eventually come up with the answers and that is logical, but to say that,

    Christians with a science background, like myself, are just not thinking about all this and blindly accept what their spoon fed from childhood is not a correct statement.
    I see the evidence of a "God" in all this.

    I welcome your questions and your opinions, it stimulates me from my complacency in my faith to explore it further.

    Thank You





    Grace and peace
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    #69

    Oct 18, 2007, 02:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by deist
    The christian reconstructionists are just as dangerous as any muslim extremist. They want to expand the death penalty to include homosexuals, adulterers, unruly adult children, & idolaters (& they consider even non-reconstructionist christians to be idolaters). They are in government. If you are not a reconstructionist then you're in danger too christian or not.
    Where do you get this nonsense? I do not know any Christians who feel this way. This is about extremism. However I had heard of groups who think Christains ought to die.
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    Oct 18, 2007, 04:09 PM
    I highly disagree. Big Bang Theory states that something came from nothing, that nothing whatsoever existed before the bang.
    I believe in the Bible and Creation. This means I believe that God has ALWAYS existed and ALWAYS will. He spoke the universe into creation. This isn't anywhere near the theory of the big bang. As I asked before, "And if you believe in evolution, why did some choose to crawl out of the water or ooze and not others? Why do humans have higher reasoning and not all creatures? how can you explain the intricacies of the eye? How about how you were formed? How do you explain why there is life if the universe should be declining? Why is there beauty and why is there music?"
    Can you explain?
    Quote Originally Posted by deist
    Everyone accepts the big bang theory, even christians. Christians believe it was the moment God said, "Let there be light".
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    Oct 18, 2007, 04:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by savedsinner7
    silentrascal disagrees: Your credibility is likewise shot

    I feel bad for you. I was pointing out the hypocrisy in your comment about someone's credibility and you resort to character assassination. While you attacked another's credibilty, your argument was that the person was not an expert and therefore not credible because they were not present at the writing. This would make everyone posting not credible, including yourself, because we were not present for the translating. Character assassination is a low blow. I will not reply to any more of this type of post from you.

    And I pity you. You were attempting to point out something that wasn't there. I say he's not credible because he has an admitted bias that taints his entire argument.

    Please, get off the soapbox.
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    #72

    Oct 19, 2007, 02:06 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot
    you say you believe in God but you say you believe in the big bang?? make up your mind. You are confusing people. Where do you stand? what do you believe? who do you believe in?? what is the name of your god?
    I see you like to call people who don't agree with you trolls. I could just as well call you a dangerous fanatical fundamentalist extremist who can't even spell correctly. I said it before & I'll say it again, someone like you could never lead me to Jesus were I so inclined.
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    #73

    Oct 19, 2007, 02:47 AM
    > Thread Closed <

    FYI Tatertot has been permanently BANNED from the site for their continued intolerance towards others views and beliefs.
    This is against AMHD's rules, which are locate here: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/faq.ph...#faq_faq_rules

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