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    Sep 19, 2007, 03:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by sGt HarDKorE
    Every time i watch the debates on tv the candidates go over there time and the MC is telling them to wrap it up. I guess we should tazor them too...
    Hahaha thank you :) I didn't even think of that
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    Sep 19, 2007, 03:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by xAjikanx
    To jillianleab:
    I saw the video in a diffrent view(on the hsow called Inside Edition), they showed him getting tasered and harmed, and he asked one police man if he can have a seat because he is in so much pain they told him no and he was forced to stand.
    Okay, I dotn see how they can over react over a time limit. The kid went over a limit, KErry wanted to asnwer, just do it it and get it over with. 1 more minute isnt going to kill anyone. Thats so stupid to put a time limit on these things. People want ot know things, we have the right to know.
    Over a time limit he got hurt AND put in jail for 2 days! Sweeeeeet mama this city is gone cooocoo.
    Yea he got mad hostile so why not hold the kid down, but there idiots. They hurt him to clam him down. If yo uwere panicing and i slapped you, thats nto gonna make you eel anybetter now is it?
    And the fact he had no gun or any weapons and he didnt even mean to cause a seen he still gets hurt. Tasering isnt a HUGE deal but just how they BOTH over reacted. I mean KEry was ogign to answer the kid and thats maybe why he wanted to stay.
    Unless the kid ran amock and puleld out a gun then please
    , by all means harrass him.
    and yes I do say "poor kid" because he meant no harm. After seeing him come out of jail to run into his fathers arms.... He must of been so happy.

    (Hahah this is fun I love debating xDD )
    First of all, it's not stupid at all to put a time limit on questions, because if you don't, one student can monopolize the entire presentation. How is that fair? One student gets to ask question after question, or one loooong question and no one else is allowed to participate? Here's something for you to think about; why, when he went over his time limit, couldn't he have passed the mic to someone else and waited until he had another opportunity? Then, when Kerry started to answer his question, did he not stop, hand over the mic, and listen? Hmmm... maybe it's because he's an attention wh**e!

    I think you're concentrating on the time limit thing a little much. You make it sound like he went over his time limit and ZAP! Got tased. If he had handed the mic over and sat down, instead of spazzing out and becoming hostile, none of this would have happened. But he didn't. He was approached by an officer where he became combative. Given that the speaker was a flippin' US SENATOR and the officers had no way of knowing what the loon was going to do, and the fact that he was struggling and fighting them, they had to be more aggressive. What do you suppose the officers should have done? Walked up to him and said, "Excuse me. I know you really want to ask your question, but we have other students who would like to participate so could you pretty pretty please hand the mic over and let someone else have a turn?" That's not how you speak to adults - it's how you speak to children. This guy KNEW he was over his time limit and he KNEW he was in the wrong.

    Also, he spent the night in jail (not two days), the officers have been suspended (the student has not) and there is a pending investigation.

    Want more proof that he's an attention wh**e and instigated the whole thing?

    >>Meyer, a telecommunications junior from Weston, has a Web site that features a self-described "disorganized diatribe" criticizing media coverage of the Iraq war. The book he held at Monday's event was Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast, which reports on voting irregularities in the 2004 presidential contest and calls Kerry the victor.

    He's also known for posting practical jokes and comedy routines online.

    Meyer was noticeably absent Tuesday. Friends had not seen or heard from him, and he did not attend the protest or a news conference held by his attorney, Robert Griscti, who said Meyer was resting and wouldn't be made available to reporters.

    Before asking his question Monday, Meyer handed a videocamera to Clarissa Jessup, a Santa Fe Community College student who didn't know Meyer, and asked her to record his question. Jessup followed him and wedged herself between police officers to capture his screams after being hit with the Taser. She uploaded it to YouTube that day. >>

    So let's see... he likes to play practical jokes and made sure his question would be filmed by someone he didn't know (and thus, didn't expect him to pull such a stunt). He also didn't attend the protest in his honor, or attend the press conference to discuss the matter (gets more sympathy that way). Couple all of that with his childish Harry Potter stunt, and the guy is literally screaming for attention. Feel sorry for him all you want, and by all means you are entitled to your opinion about the situation, but it's important to get information about the student, the situation and the facts.

    You can read it yourself here: State: Tasering of UF student sparks uproar
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    #23

    Sep 19, 2007, 03:31 PM
    The fact the officers got suspended proves they were wrong.

    Im really sorry I didn't have time to fully read your thing. Im really busy with work but I promise when I finish Im going to read through everything carefully and ill reply to you later, is that OK?
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    #24

    Sep 19, 2007, 03:34 PM
    Actually, officers frequently get suspended when their actions are being investigated; it "proves" nothing. Oh, and BTW, they're receiving full pay for the duration of the suspension... so what does that "prove" to you?
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    #25

    Sep 19, 2007, 03:47 PM
    That proves that's pretty pointless.
    I don't care if he is an attention w**re. I am just saying this whole thing was taken to far.
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    #26

    Sep 19, 2007, 05:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by xAjikanx
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    Its the job? Its there jo to hurt people? They have shot people he didnt deserve to die because they claimed they carried guns when it was nothing more but a black wallet. We all heard the stories. There irrational.
    Thats the problem with most of america, no one settles crap the right way its always violence and war!
    No that's not what I said. It's their job to keep the peace. Sometimes that means getting physical with someone who is threatening to break that peace. Sometimes it means using extreme force. And yes sometimes mistakes are made. I'm not trying to justify those mistakes. But until you have walked in a cop's shoes, feeling like there is a bullseye painted on their chest, risking their lives to protect others, I would not suggest presuming to know when excessive force is necessary or not.
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    Sep 19, 2007, 05:11 PM
    So if you got hostile and I zaped you with my taser you would be like "Sure i deserved that" ?
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    Sep 19, 2007, 05:25 PM
    If I disobeyed the lawful orders of a peace officer and I was threatening the peace and them, then yes I would have deserved it.
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    Sep 19, 2007, 05:35 PM
    Lol but it goes back to what I was saying.
    I don't think zappign someone will lreally calm there nerves down

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