[Marzapan741]

If you see no video here's the link
YouTube - STUDENT TASERED FOR ASKING SEN KERRY ABOUT VOTER SUPPRESSION

Okay honestly, that's wrong. It was his turn on the mic, and so what if he went over the time limit by a little? He did not deserve to be tased and hurt like that. They totally took this issue to far. I really care stand police or how America is "land of the free.

Yea Land of the free, I'm so sure. He is a young student he just wanted to know soemthing, he didn't need to be in pain and in jail for two days.

Someone better do something about this, the police better not gett away with it just like that, they took away his right of free speech basically.

:after watching that vid and seeing that guy's freedom of speech being taken away from
And the cops didn't even read him his rights
Makes me a little mad
Plus kerry didn't even know how to answer that question
And when he answered that question at the end I think he was trying to cover that guys screaming from the taser

What's your views?

[shygrneyzs]

I do not see or hear anything - just the words you wrote on the bottom. So what are you talking about?

[Marzapan741]

I put the link sorry I don't know how to put up videos.

[shygrneyzs]

That's okay. I saw that on CNN and I am not excusing anything but I remember being young and in college and protesting the Vietnam War and being hauled off with my fellow students. All because we exercised our freedom of speech. However, it was not our freedom of speech that mattered to administration.

I do not think the young man in the video deserved to be tasered. I think he was just to calm him before anything else could happen. This was Senator Kerry too, not some Yahoo senator from a Yahoo state that no one cares about. That does not make it right!

Yes the young man went over the time limit, yes he got quite emotional, yes, he got carried away with his topic. Those kind of things would make him a target in the eyes of the police. So much now happens because we have become over cautious and jump on something, without knowing if it is or is not a reasonable issue to jump on. Like defusing the bomb before it explodes. I think the police were trying to get him out of the area before hell broke loose. I still do not think he deserved to be tasered. Hopefully he will not be charged with anything. He is an angry young man with a right to his anger. Kerry was not giving him much to go on.

[Marzapan741]

I agree with you. He is a little annoying but none the less didn't deserve it at all. The poor kid got sent to jail for 2 days. How was he disturbing the peace? That I didn't understand

[jillianleab]

I think the problem is that he went over his time limit, didn't stop when he was told to, then when he was being removed he was struggling with the officers. If you watch the video, he quickly becomes belligerent once an officer approaches him. He lunged toward the stage several times, which to an officer, could indicate he wanted to do harm to Senator Kerry. Once they finally get him to the door and give him a shove, he lunges back; again, this indicates aggression and possible danger. Thus, the officers took him down. Was the use of the taser appropriate? I can't say for sure, but his behavior certainly wasn't appropriate either.

[Marzapan741]

Yea I agree with this also, but that Taser issue was uncalled for.
If that's the polices best way of calming a hostile man down, there smart(nooo).


Technically, he wasn't supposed ot get arrested. I mean the cops never told him wy he was getitng arrested. Until he asked.. if he never did that he could have been safe

[jillianleab]

Maybe the taser was uncalled for, but the guy is pretty big and was getting pretty physical. It could be viewed he was posing a threat to the officers and the other students around him. Tasers are designed to subdue an individual for their safety and the safety of others, and (generally) is non-lethal. If you watch the video they were having a tough time subduing him without using additional force, which, I'm sure is why the taser was used. As far as should he have been arrested or not... he WAS resisting an officer and he was causing what could have turned into a violent outburst from the crowd. I have a feeling the charges will be dropped against him, mostly due to the media attention. But then again, the guy got what he was looking for; apparently he's quite the attention wh**e.

Harry Potter and the Taser

I'm not saying his past behaviors justify what was done, but the guy seems to be screaming "PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEEE!!!!!"

[Marzapan741]

No I understand you, he is wrong also, just I feel that's harsh. But he deserved the humiliiation, just no pain haha.

Harry potter? XD oh dear

[Fr_Chuck]

Sorry but he does not have a freedom to break the rules, and disobey the lawful orders of police. Once he was ordered to stop and leave, he was suppose to stop.

He was tasered as a method to protect him from other harm.

He was under arrest at that point and time, and rather than grab him and fight with him which would put the officers at risk, this was a very good method of putting the suspect under control. Mace can not be used in a crowd.

[Marzapan741]

Yea... I know he did something wrong but the police are people too, what gives them the right to harm others?
They hit, shoot, and harass innocent people.
There too rough. I hate the fact they think they have a right to hurt someone, but If I were to go out and hit someone it would be wrong.
When my brother got introuble once for begin at a party, everyone was drinking but he wasn't, since they found him my brother like walk/ran away and they tackled him and hit him. What the heck. They didn't have the right to hurt him like that, even though he did nothing wrong but walk away.
Idk. I believe that Crime deserves punishment but they don't have the right to touch him like that. So harmful. Their lucky he didn't get seriously hurt.

Society these days. They protect people by hurting them and they show us killing is wrong by killing others.
Got to admit though, I got a good lsaugh when they carried him away, but the tasering=boooooooooooooooo

[Fr_Chuck]

On your brother, if he had stopped and came to them, they would not have had to tackle him, but when a suspect is running away, what they are suppose to do? They takle him and when he fights back they restrain them.

And yes, he is lucky he was not hurt worst, for failure to obey the offers.

Sorry but person can not be just allowed to walk( run ) away.

The taser is the best non lethal method of detaining a suspect. It causes little actual harm, no lasting injury,

[Marzapan741]

But to hit him? They did some other unnecessary things but I forgot, it was a while ago when I was 7.

Hm, I agree with if you run you should be stopped but he was still harmed non the less.

His first amendment was taken away. We don't have to agree with what he is saying but none the less its his right. Kerry even agreed to answer it but the cops went nutty.
Say that was your son or daughter, would you be okay with them tasering them? Over something so minor such as going over a time limit of speaking?

* I am agreeing with everyone I just don't believe in harm. Haha

[nkychic]

Yeah, I've seen this video going around. It's pretty depressing. What's even more depressing is not ONE person stood up for him. Not one person tried to defend him or help him out. Why? Do you think it's because they were scared to? Do you think maybe they don't even realize that in essence he did NOTHING wrong. Of course he was 'resisting arrest'. He was freaking out (as any student would) and trying to figure out what the he** he even did that was so wrong. It's sad to see what the world is coming to. I can only hope for it to get better. At this rate, things are looking pretty grim.

[Fr_Chuck]

So all students are silly stupid people who don't have enough sense to obey a police officer?

He was a trouble maker who did not want to follow instructions and wanted to do what he wanted to do regardless of what is right.

And it is sad to see what the world is coming to, where people like him would be so disrespectful to have to have this done to them

[Marzapan741]

I think she meant to say is, no matter who yo uare when your getting harassed by cops your going to freak out one way or another,unless your mellow.

Okay let me ask you, what do YOU think he did that was so wrong.
Goingg over a time limit?
AND-Kerry even said "Wait hold up let me answer his question (something like that), Kerry didn't even get bothered.

[jillianleab]

But to hit him? They did some other unnecessary things but i forgot, it was a while ago when i was 7.

Hm, I agree with if you run you should be stopped but he was still harmed non the less.

His first amendment was taken away. We dont have to agree with what he is saying but none the less its his right. Kerry even agreed to answer it but the cops went nutty.
Say that was your son or daughter, would you be okay with them tasering them? Over something so minor such as going over a time limit of speaking?

* I am agreeing with everyone I just dont belive in harm. haha

It's not about his first amendment rights, or that someone didn't like what he was saying, or that Kerry agreed to answer his question. He went over his time limit, then became belligerent when an officer approached him. I disagree that initially the cops "went nutty", but would say the student "went nutty" first. The guy flipped out the second the cop walked over to him and proceeded to struggle and yell. So really, at that point, who overreacted?

I understand you don't believe in harm being done to people, but you have to understand police often have to make decisions on the spot and expect the worst to happen. Would you agree with the tasering if the guy had been found with a knife, or gun on him? If a search of his computer contained ramblings of a madman? It's too hard to tell from the video if the police could have handcuffed the guy and gotten him out of the auditorium. He was on the ground, but he was still screaming and appeared to be struggling. So really, I don't know in this particular case. I'm sure there will be an investigation and we'll still never know, but I'm not so quick to jump up and say "Poor guy! He just went over his time limit!!!" because clearly, he didn't. My point is, in some cases, police need to use additional force to control a situation. Do they overreact sometimes? Absolutely. But does that mean we should take their guns, batons and tasers? NO.

[ScottGem]

Yea... I know he did something wrong but the police are people too, what gives them the right to harm others?
They hit, shoot, and harass innocent people.

I've seen the video and read the accounts. It appears the campus officers were a bit overzealous.

But to answer your question, what gives them the right is because that's their job! The job of a police officer is to enforce the law. These officers took action because they were called in because of a disturbance. This student was preventing other students from asking questions. He was told his time was up and was asked to relinquish the mic. It was only after he refused that the officers were called in. They tried to peacefully move him out and he refused and fought back. They had to wrestle him to the ground and he still fought back.

The police are entitled to protect themselves so they determine there was a need to calm him and that's why the taser was used.

Someone else commented that no one went to his aid. Maybe that's because they were glad that the police were removing him because he disrupted the session.

Sorry this young man was wrong on several levels.

[Marzapan741]

To jillianleab:
I saw the video in a different view(on the hsow called Inside Edition), they showed him getting tasered and harmed, and he asked one police man if he can have a seat because he is in so much pain they told him no and he was forced to stand.
Okay, I dotn see how they can over react over a time limit. The kid went over a limit, KErry wanted to asnwer, just do it it and get it over with. 1 more minute isn't going to kill anyone. That's so stupid to put a time limit on these things. People want ot know things, we have the right to know.
Over a time limit he got hurt AND put in jail for 2 days! Sweeeeeet mama this city is gone cooocoo.
Yea he got mad hostile so why not hold the kid down, but there idiots. They hurt him to clam him down. If yo uwere panicing and I slapped you, that's not going to make you eel anybetter now is it?
And the fact he had no gun or any weapons and he didn't even mean to cause a seen he still gets hurt. Tasering isn't a HUGE deal but just how they BOTH over reacted. I mean KEry was ogign to answer the kid and that's maybe why he wanted to stay.
Unless the kid ran amock and puleld out a gun then please
, by all means harrass him.
And yes I do say "poor kid" because he meant no harm. After seeing him come out of jail to run into his fathers arms... He must have been so happy.

To:ScottGem
It's the job? It's there jo to hurt people? They have shot people he didn't deserve to die because they claimed they carried guns when it was nothing more but a black wallet. We all heard the stories. There irrational.
That's the problem with most of america, no one settles crap the right way its always violence and war!
What's the world coming to? It makes me sick, unless they know they arm armed and loaded, then they have more of a right to do something to stop him. Protect themselves! Its one boy. One boy hwo is not armed, and 74748657489 of them attackted.
I don't agree with anythign the ydid at all. Wayy out of proportion.
I agree with you guys one one thing, the boy ahd something coming for him, just not that :/




(Hahah this is fun I love debating xDD )

[sGt HarDKorE]

so all students are silly stupid people who don't have enough sense to obey a police officer ??

He was a trouble maker who did not want to follow instructions and wanted to do what he wanted to do regardless of what is right.

And it is sad to see what the world is comming to, where people like him would be so disrespectful to have to have this done to them

Every time I watch the debates on TV the candidates go over there time and the MC is telling them to wrap it up. I guess we should tazor them too...

And there was at least 7 cops, your telling me they couldn't take on some kid? They never use a tazor the TV show cops and those people have guns and such... Hmmm