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J_9 · Aug 20, 2007, 10:19 AM

Children that can't sit still yeah, ADD only what I have learned from my mother in law who is a 4th grade teacher

Synnen · Aug 20, 2007, 10:20 AM

LOL... it's with an employment agency. I probably won't hear anything right away, really.

I'll keep you posted, though!

startover22 · Aug 20, 2007, 10:24 AM

Nice, Synn, can't wait to hear.
Ok, J, so what does she think about the children that can't sit still? My Jett can't and I am worried about him. I noticed when I googled it, I should change his diet. He get's plenty of rest. I am researching it...

alkalineangel · Aug 20, 2007, 10:39 AM

Poor CBW... feel better soon hun... Im thinking of you.

Synn - good luck today... Im doing the same thing tomorrow afternoon. Got a call back from the newpaper... They are down to 3 people, and Im one, there are two positions available... going to the "dentist" tomorrow... lol. I just hope they don't get PO'd when I tell them I'm pregnant.

Start - My sister's oldest has ADD, with him it is that he can not keep attention on one object for longer than 10 minutes tops, this includes books, games, movies, conversations... unless medicated... he's going on 12.

startover22 · Aug 20, 2007, 10:43 AM

Nice about the call from the paper, Al!
Thanks for the info. I am hoping no med's will be needed. I would like to do everything else before we go there, it is a problem that my hubby doesn't really want to recognize, it is hard to do anything about it, so I am taking steps on my own. He is a good boy, a smart boy, just doesn't really want to sit long enough to listen, even when it is fun. He wants to do it by himself and if he fails he will ask for help, a little less eye contact and some staring off into the distance are just some of the things I have been looking into!

J_9 · Aug 20, 2007, 10:45 AM

If you are looking at diet you need to start with sugars. ALL SUGARS, including any Red Dyes.

Start, when he stares off or gets distracted, just a light touch on the shoulder can help re-group them sometimes.

alkalineangel · Aug 20, 2007, 10:49 AM

Of course, no one wants their child on medicine... there are many, many other options out there. They tried everything on her son though. Her middle son they were treating for ADD with no luck, partially because he had some symptoms to his brother, but then once that was not working, they dug deeper, and found that he actually had an autism spectrum disorder called Asperger's. He is much happier with proper OT and fish oil rather than the medications they tried originally... good luck!

startover22 · Aug 20, 2007, 10:52 AM

Yes, sugars and red dyes, I have found that out. What do you think about the other kids, is it fair to give them the same diet or not... they are used to a free diet. They eat very well, but pop tarts and cookies are definitely there.
A tap on the shoulder doesn't do it for the staring, I have clapped my hands even and he is still there. The kicker is, he learns and hears everything we say, sometimes when he does this, I test and say something, when he snaps out of it he knows what went on around him. He is the one that likes to go get the frogs in the early marning and does things onhis own a lot... he is the most kind loving soul I have ever met, but he does not take athourity at all. If I say no, he keeps going. I am working on all of this. I know J, consistancy is key... I am doing my best to follow through!

startover22 · Aug 20, 2007, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by alkalineangel

of course, no one wants their child on medicine...there are many, many other options out there. they tried everything on her son though. Her middle son they were treating for ADD with no luck, partially because he had some symptoms to his brother, but then once that was not working, they dug deeper, and found that he actually had an autism spectrum disorder called Asperger's. He is much happier with proper OT and fish oil rather than the medications they tried originally...good luck!

Al, I have actually thought to have him tested for Autism.. Thanks, I will get this under control. I am doing lot's to see what I can do. Thanks for the advice you guys.

J_9 · Aug 20, 2007, 11:01 AM

Start, have you considered seizure disorder?

startover22 · Aug 20, 2007, 11:04 AM

No... what is the heck is that?

alkalineangel · Aug 20, 2007, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by J_9

Start, have you considered seizure disorder?

I thought this too, but I don't know that he would retain the information that was happening around him during a seizure...

Start, does he have problems with loud noises or public places... meaning do you notice it happen if there are more people around than usual or at a movie theater...

J_9 · Aug 20, 2007, 11:10 AM

Many children are well aware of the goings on around them with certain seizure disorders.

Start, not to scare you, but seizure disorders are like different forms of epilepsy. You said a few things in your last post that really stuck out to me. Here, let me go back and find them.

Originally Posted by startover22

some staring off into the distance

Originally Posted by startover22

A tap on the shoulder doesn't do it for the staring, I have clapped my hands even and he is still there.

Originally Posted by startover22

when he snaps out of it

These are the few that made me think seizure disorder. It very well could be an autistic disorder also though, they can really imitate each other and make it hard for a proper diagnosis.

startover22 · Aug 20, 2007, 11:15 AM

I just googled it and I am not really sure. I honestly think the next best thing would to be take him in to the doctor! I know Dustin is scared to find out what is happening. I can tell that he isn't JUST being a REAL boy. Dus thinks that we have lost sight of the fact that kids should be able to be themselves. But he is the kid that you can't let go of his hand cause he will run off and it is hard to keep a grip on his hand, he is unwilling to comply.

J_9 · Aug 20, 2007, 11:17 AM

To be honest, and you already know this, it could be a lot of things, including his age. Johnny can be similar at times. But you know only a doctor can give you the right diagnosis, at least you have us to give you some direction in talking to the doctor and asking the right questions.

startover22 · Aug 20, 2007, 11:21 AM

Yes, ever since he was a baby, I felt this way. Two years ago I was going to go through with the autism tests (on my own) They send out papers and ask you to write many things down. I am going to take him to the doctor and see if I should do it. Also, it may just be a case of diet and being totally stern with him... I am mostly worried about the staring and not paying attention!

alkalineangel · Aug 20, 2007, 11:22 AM

Wow.. I didn't know that. But then, I'm not as familiar with epilepsy as with Autism. I have only know one person with epilepsy, and one person with a daughter that suffers from Grand Mal seizures, but both were more serious cases, I am guessing there are less serious cases as well, similar to different aspects of autism spectrum. I always thought people were not aware of things around them. I learn something new everyday.

Start - It's better to get him to the doctor. He sounds as though he is learning fine and what not, just a little socially inept.. I would not be too worried, it could just be him being himself, but mothers know their children best.. and you obviously see something that is not quite right. Better safe than sorry.. good luck!

J_9 · Aug 20, 2007, 11:24 AM

Yes, an epileptic does not have to have a physical seizure such as a grand mal. Just staring and what some call zoning out can be considered a seizure. With some people you can watch their eyes during this zone out period and they will move rapidly either back and forth or up and down, sometimes not move at all.

startover22 · Aug 20, 2007, 11:27 AM

No movement, and you have to also know that we put him in school last year only to take him out a month and a half later. No biggie, I thought he may change a bit with being 6 in a few days, there has not been much of a change. So I guess I am worried that he will not be able to attend and that is the main issue. If the teacher is having to put the attention on only Jett, then that isn't good for the other kids!

alkalineangel · Aug 20, 2007, 11:33 AM

If he does have some kind of issue, there are many ways such as occupational therapy and many other things, that will help him mainstream into normal school. My nephew goes to school and is in the same grade as others his age, he does well. He has to have a stress reliever there though (chewy tube) but, he is able to sit and get the information he needs... he is one of the smartest in his class right now..