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Eileen2005 · Aug 12, 2007, 08:36 PM

Does eating frozen food increase the risk of infection with Helicobacter pylori?

tickle · Aug 13, 2007, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Eileen2005

Does eating frozen food increase the risk of infection with Helicobacter pylori?

Frozen food is processed with large amounts of salt, (as well as canned foods) so you are right.

Researchers found that high concentrations of salt in the stomach appear to induce gene activity in the ulcer-causing Helicobacter pylori bacterium that causes it to become more virulent. About 20 percent of Americans age 40 and about 50 percent of those over age 60 are infected with H. pylori, but only a small percentage of them develop ulcers.

tickle · Aug 13, 2007, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Eileen2005

Does eating frozen food increase the risk of infection with Helicobacter pylori?

Frozen food is processed with large amounts of salt, (as well as canned foods) so you are right.

Researchers found that high concentrations of salt in the stomach appear to induce gene activity in the ulcer-causing Helicobacter pylori bacterium that causes it to become more virulent. About 20 percent of Americans age 40 and about 50 percent of those over age 60 are infected with H. pylori, but only a small percentage of them develop ulcers.

H. pylori id s not uncommon condition as you can see from the above figures.

Eileen2005 · Aug 13, 2007, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by tickle

Frozen food is processed with large amounts of salt, (as well as canned foods) so you are right.

Researchers found that high concentrations of salt in the stomach appear to induce gene activity in the ulcer-causing Helicobacter pylori bacterium that causes it to become more virulent. About 20 percent of Americans age 40 and about 50 percent of those over age 60 are infected with H. pylori, but only a small percentage of them develop ulcers.

Thank you so much.

statictable · Aug 22, 2007, 09:29 AM

What is your interest in the Helico? Are you symptomatic? If you have time let us know. We might expand on the answers. Best wishes

Eileen2005 · Aug 22, 2007, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by statictable

What is your interest in the Helico? Are you symptomatic? If you have time let us know. We might expand on the answers. Best wishes

Well, I had the symptoms twice in my life and it happened after consuming frozen food for a while, which was home made food, frozen for a very short time. I had antibiotics and avoided eating frozen food at a regular basis. Now I am OK. But there is a friend of mine, who happened to have upset stomach the other day, and I know that recently she eats lots of frozen food products because she does not have time to cook. I did not know, whether to tell her about this or not. After all I do not know if she really has the symptoms. She says she has had this problem since 4 years ago and it comes and goes and every time she feels upset, she takes it easy with the food and then it goes away, she said it also happens if she drinks too much. I told her my experience with helicon bacteria but did not mention about the frozen food because I was not sure these two were really related. After all I decided not to say anything because her symptoms seem different from mine. I am a bit concerned about her, because she is a really dear friend, but I know it is not my business. She sure knows better.

statictable · Aug 22, 2007, 07:05 PM

Hi Eileen2005; We're close,, you mentioned your friend has symptoms after drinking too much. Just water or milk, Coke, coffee, etc. This bacteria enjoys a very acidic environment like the acid in a car battery which is sulfuric and not hydrochloric as we produce in our digestive systems. The helico (helicopter) bacteria is hard to terminate with a single drug like an antibiotic. The method of choice would be a dual antibiotic coupled with a 3rd drug such as Prilosec which completely stops the production of acid. A 10 to 15 day course will nail them. Back to the foods you store. Do you know the temp. of your freezer? Sorry for these questions.

Eileen2005 · Aug 22, 2007, 08:34 PM

Hi, yes, she mentioned coke and alcoholic drink I think. Actuially I do not know the temperature of my freezer but I do not store the cooked food anymore. Thanks for the information.

Eileen2005 · Aug 22, 2007, 08:37 PM

Hi again, tell me more please about storing the food. Just in case I want to. And do you think she should talk to her doctor about these symptums?

statictable · Aug 23, 2007, 12:28 AM

Hi again: Esophageal Reflux is a maybe. Carbinated beverages increasing the symptoms could be due to a weak lower esophageal muscle which could allow acidic fluids to enter into the esophagous which is not designed to deal with acid. Nausea and heart burn are just 2 symptoms of reflux. Sore throat, neck, shoulder and upper back pain as well as vocal cord irritation can result. A safe way to test for reflux involves taking Prilosec (OTC) for a few weeks. If symptoms subside then a visit with an MD for routine diagnostic testing would be prudent. She may wish to see a doctor before taking Prilosec which is fine. A doctor would go over some guide lines designed to reduce reflux in the future but the proton pump inhibitor Prilosec or other similar drugs can be taken for long periods.