[saraispiel19]

Old enough to be mαrried :D

α lαdy never gives out her αgeee ;)

[saraispiel19]

No you're not. Whatever.

Lol jeeze I wαs just pokin' fun αt myself... sorry?:o

[zooropa1985]

Geeze lol emo's chattin up me girl hahah

[emopunk7]

Lol... watever

[emopunk7]

I won't do that to you... if she's yours then she's yours. Lol

[saraispiel19]

Hey now! I'm not αnybody's!

:: I feel some strong:mad:feminist emotions coming ::

[SAB123]

Hey Zoo, how long has it been since your ex broke up with you.

[emopunk7]

We know Sarai... We are just kidding... I'll stop now.

[saraispiel19]

hαhα I'm not freαking out lol-- my husbαnd would!

[emopunk7]

Lol... your husband is like 21... I would destroy the guy, plus I hope he isn't the jealous type... Anyway, let's not get carried away... So, Zoo... How have you been?

[saraispiel19]

Hey now-- he is not jelouse he is just "protective"...

your right lets not get into this i'd rip your heαd off

[nicespringgirl]

old enough to be mαrried :D

α lαdy never gives out her αgeee ;)

Oh com'on,

[saraispiel19]

Lol its in the nαme hun<3

[zooropa1985]

Hey Zoo, how long has it been since your ex broke up with you.

It will be three months next week, not that long I know but it feels like a lifetime.

Im good by the way emo, thanks for asking, sure the odd memory slips in here and there but what can you do, can't force someone to like you lol

[s_cianci]

Why does any of this bother you? Why should you care? You've moved on and so has she. In her case, moving on maybe meant going back but that happens sometimes. Either way, it's all water over the dam now. Don't even give it a second thought.

[SAB123]

It will be three months next week, not that long i know but it feels like a lifetime.

That is AWSOME Zoo, It has been over 5 months for me and I can't wait until I get to your stage. I am Happy for you and I hope every thing works out with your new girl.

[saraispiel19]

yαy for sαb :)

[nicespringgirl]

Be yourself, and the smart girls start with the right things. Real smart girl will like a good guy!! Trust me!

mckenzie134 disagrees: not exactly true smartgirlslike a nice guy but you must keep them guessing even smartones like the chase. Trust me found this out the hard way after 3 years...
Then they are not TRULY smart women!
GOOD INTELLIGENT WOMEN WANT EVERYTHING START WITH THE RIGHT THING. It depends on your defition of smart women... I think

[chuff]

Let's get this out of the way right of the bat……

FINALLY! CHUFF HAS RETURNED!


Well that's it. Nothing more to see here.

Oh wait a minute! What good is the Chuffster and his return if the trademark doesn't follow.

Zoo, you're about to get Chuffed. It's nothing personal.

So there i am, in the cinema with me new girl, holding hands, kissin all the usual stuff, movie ends and she has to go to the ladeez. So im standing outside with the rest of the boyfriends and pervs when i look over and see me ex coming up the stairs, i get that feelin you get but think "hope she dont come near me".

I watch her get to the top and low and behold who does she meet? The "awful ex boyfriend whom She hates and would never go with again".

I haven't been here in a while but I seem to remember a guy here on this very site telling you she was lying. I seem to remember some guy here on this very site telling you she was seeing someone else. I seem to remember a guy on this very sight telling you that once the challenge was gone so was she.

I seem to remember that guy was me.

Now that the self congratulatory session is over let's start learning. That ex that you that said all those things about the ex and how bad he treated her is now dating the very same thing. I use the word thing on purpose because the truth is she is looking for and dating a thing in a man and not the man. She is a drama queen and she uses people by controlling there emotions. Once she accomplishes that she moves on. When you first started dating she was not dating you the man but you the thing you presented her. By your own admission you weren't interested in her and you didn't fall for her or her emotional devices right away. The challenge was on. Soon you started falling for her emotional games. You probably didn't do it all the time but by the end you had completely given up your power, you ability to make a decision, and your ability tell her no. You became a pushover to her.

You became such a pushover that you allowed her to start talking about her ex's and how bad they were. Well to her they were horrible because unlike you, they told her no. They stuck to there guns and put there foot down. She pulled out her emotional games and they didn't bite. She pulled out her emotional games with you and you laid down. Hell, after you got dumped you put a video on YouTube for something she claimed happened years ago. Talk about emotional control. She controlled you and she had left your life by dumping you. She controlled everything about you.

She wants the challenge. She wants to know her guy is emotionally strong. She does't want the “guy.” If the guy looked like Brad Pitt or myself it wouldn't mean anything in the long run if they had you “lay down and walk all over me” attitude that you had at the end of the relationship.

Man of all the guys why him, talk about recycling, so there i am gobsmacked at the two of them and then i do the most stupidest thing ever,

Don't be ridicules, the stupidest thing ever would be to walk up to them and ask “hey are you two back together?”

i walk up to them and ask "hey, are you two back together"

Oh. My bad.

You have something inside you that seeks to punish yourself. I don't know what it is or why it is but sometimes you just ask for emotional punishment, and you give it to yourself and accept it from yourself. To be honest this is one of the reasons she dumped you. You act emotionally and not logically. Women aren't attracted to guys who act overly emotional in every day life or can't control their emotions. You have proven by your actions to be one of those guys. She can watch and listen to all her girlfriends act the same way, because they are emotional creatures. Women are attracted to men who do not act like other women, but act like emotionally strong, secure, and solid men.

lol all i got was "whats it to ya", i tried for 10 seconds to think of something but sadly i couldnt, i looked at them and just went "fair enuff" then walked back up and waited foe me new girl.

I'm not sure if I should be laughing at you but….well I'm laughing at you. Seriously that seems like it could be a scene out of a movie or TV show. What's really sad is, she was right. What is it to you? You said awhile back how you would walk up to a guy that she was seeing and hit HIM in the face, all while the honest delicate angel that is your ex girlfriend would not be blamed for anything. I pointed out how stupid that was then, and how ridicules it was to punish a guy for your ex's actions. Your response was that (and I'm paraphrasing) “he would know that I was dating her and you don't go after my girl.”
Because of course she is an innocent, delicate flower who would never lie to a guy and say she was single….or even turn away the advances of someone when she was so committed to you…yeah I'm rolling my eyes too because she was to blame and your refused to do it.

Well you had your chance and I've got to tell you, I'm happy you didn't punch this innocent man who had nothing to do with your issues between her. But their words speak to the whole point. It's nothing to you. You can't control them, even if she still controls you….or a better way to say it is you still give her actions and words to control you. It's over, it was over before she told you, it's time to move on.

Hmmm that was sore i dont mind saying, so she dumps me cause i reminded her of the ex she seems to be with now, WOMEN!!!!!

Seriously did I not get the memo? Women are lying now? Is this something new? They've always been honest until now, isn't that right?

Watching you try to describe this woman as some delicate, caring, compassionate, honest angel has been really disturbing, annoying, and quite frankly insulting. You're a little more accepting that time has wore on that she might not have been what your first though but can you just go all the way and except the fact she was a whore. Yes a dirty, skanky, bottom feeding, smelly, lying, whore. Anyone that disagrees can go back and check some of the other posts and I dare you to tell me different after you see the lies this woman has come up with.

Now getting back to the point at hand. She dumped you because you didn't give her a challenge or make her feel anything anymore. You just caved in and let her walk all over you, while at the same time you became so attached to her that you lost your own identity. She dumped you because you become emotionally weak, you acted desperate, and you lost your backbone. Women are rarely going to tell you the truth as to why they are dumping you. And even if she had told you the truth, you would have said what? “I can change?” How is a woman going to believe a man can change into acting like a man when she has to tell him how to do it, and while she at the same time being a woman. That is exactly why they test you. To see if you have it to be with them. You don't pass the test by giving her everything she wants or believing everything she says or taking her word for granted or acting like someone who doesn't have his own life.

whooooaaaa wait a mo here darlin, im not stuck on her, she can go to hell for all i care, point was that shs with the ex she "hated", i mean what the hell lol

She hated him because she couldn't win all her games with him. She liked you because she could tell you about her ex and all the games he didn't let her win and you didn't just accepted it.

too right jiser, i must say though, im no oil painting but this guy is one ugly mother fu@ker lol

Well when you start to figure out that women judge men on a variety of factors and while looks is one of them that can be overcome with a personality that draws in there interest. I know someone that was burned in the face which probably wouldn't make him good looking to you but he can get a date. He also has a great personality. In a way, to a woman that alone is probably intriguing. Hell it is to me. Here is a guy who is scarred for life on the most visible part of his body and fun to be around at the same time. You can't tell me that isn't appealing to a woman. That appeals to her sense of mystery.

Women are programmed to want men who are protectors of them and their off spring. Some douche that's worried about messing up his hair isn't even comparable to a guy that has backbone and can be strong when the situation calls for it no matter what he looks like.

[chuff]

so now im thinkin maybe chuff was right (i said maybe but we all know he is) that she was seeing someone near the end, as kurt russell said in The Thing

HELL YEAH HE WAS.

Cheatin b!tch

HELL YEAH SHE WAS.

oh and get this, while all that was happening me new girl was in the bathroom, so by the time she got out it was all over lol.

Well that could have been bad or good for you.

It would have been nice for the ex to see you with another girl so she could see that you moved on and weren't obsessing over her. But it could also have been bad for your date to watch you make a fool out of yourself by not accepting it was over. If you date had seen that you would never see her again. She wouldn't want to go any further with a guy that can not control his emotions.

Things are goin good but im not going into it in the same way i did last time, im holding a little back, i dont want to get hurt again, ya know.

Hold back all the way through. Don't give her everything. Don't believe her stories if they don't make sense. Use the logically brain you have to challenge her on some of her stories.

You know i been thinking about it today and i came to realise something.

Before when we first split i thought it was my fault, that i had done something wrong, i made a few mistakes yes but nothing serious, i always wondered why she didnt want to talk about it or meet me to just talk, i mean if you love someone you try your best to work at it. I blamed myself for everything.

But now i know that it wasnt me, it was her, shes the one that did something wrong, maybe she did cheat maybe she didnt, guess i will never know but its good to know that it wasnt all me and my fault.

It seems like there was a guy on this board that was telling you that, can we get somebody to check who that guy was.

I seem to recall that guys utter amazement that you couldn't grasp the fact that she was not the person you claimed or lied to yourself that she was. Your actions spoke volumes to her, but her actions spoke volumes to that stud who pointed out she was not the person you made her out to be. You made her out to be this poor innocent victim who couldn't think for herself. You gave her every excuse in the book for her actions and lies. It's about time you start holding her accountable.

Has anybody got that guys name yet? Somebody should give him a greenie because he was right on. I think was a clown or something like that. Get back to us when you find out

My only gripe was that she was with the ex that she told me over and over again that she hated, had she been with anyone else then it would have been cool, but him.

I would think seeing her with him would be cool because it would be another lie of the many that she told you, that have been pointed out, that you could use to say to yourself “Wow, another lie that she got caught telling, I sure am glad that I don't have to listen to her lie anymore.” That would probably be a better way of dealing with your inner conversations then to say “Any other guy but him,” which only sets you up to not feel good and belittle yourself.

Then when i do ask she just gives me this look of dusgust, and they walk off together, im not in love or hung up im just kinda pissed off at her.

While in her defense what look should she have given you? Should she have given you the look “Oh Zoo it's great to see you, I'm so happy you broke my trust and made a YouTube video about something I told you not get involved with.” Or should she have given you the look, “Oh Zoo it's great to see you, I'm so glad you're here injecting yourself in my life after I told you to leave it.” Or should she have given you the look “Oh Zoo it's great to see you after you, I'm so happy you can't let go of me and have proved me right by acting like a stalker.”

Of course she is going to look at you in disgust. She is disgusted with you. You can say your not hung on her and even if that's true which I have a hard time believing it sure doesn't come off that way when you walk up to her and her date and ask them personal questions about their dating or NOT dating life. Which is something that has yet to be addressed. Maybe they were just seeing a movie together. Probably not, but you never know. But she obviously feels safer with him as a friend or more if she can still go places with him.

btw from what i been hearing shes been out with a few guys after we split, none of my business i know but shes changed.

OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! SHE HAS NOT CHANGED!

You created somebody that you wanted to believe she was. She was not that. WAKE THE F*** UP!

Sorry if this is boring you lol

It's annoying me more then anything. Why can't you see it? Why are you creating this image of her that isn't accurate?

well i dont have a choice, im not gettin the ex back, i dont want her back but i do feel betrayed by her, thats all.

You were betrayed. She certainly lied and played games with you.

But you are betraying yourself by not accepting who she was. Your still thinking emotionally….not that you shouldn't be emotional about this but you have to start thinking logically as well. You have to start here and what happened from beginning to end of the relationship. You have to start thinking about what not so great of person she is, because the reality is nobody but you thinks she was that special. I see right through her, and while I understand that love blinds you, it also doesn't take away your other senses so start using them with your logically thinking to see what she did and what you continue to do to yourself.