[Chery]

"Wildcat, I'm sorry to say this but I don't give men that much credability to come up with a scheme such as that to get out of a relationship. " - I didn't say that.

Sounds like this guy wants his cake and eat too. Not good.

Have to agree with you there Wildcat, I'm the one who said that in a previous post. You are off the hook on this one dear..

[Wildcat21]

No way! We agree? Haaaahahahah

[Chery]

Hey, what can I say Wildcat, I had a weak moment... ha ha;)

[momincali]

I actually agree with Wildcat on this one too. I think men are very different from women in that they are typically more simple-minded. No, that doesn't mean dumb, it just means that I don't think that they are usually that complicated. Men can be self-serving, egotistical jerks (on that note so can some women) but scheming and conniving, not so much, those qualities are reserved for a more rare breed.

[letmeno]

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Wildcat, I'm sorry to say this but I don't give men that much credability to come up with a scheme such as that to get out of a relationship.


I guess I have never had the opportunity to meet a guy who will use creativity to get out of a relationship... I thought they usually just stop calling.

[Wildcat21]

That wasn't me who mentioned a scheme. Guys usually aren't like that. The guy will pull back and the woman will end it.

Woman end 90% of the relationships - guys end them but woman end them officially.

Woman sense these things - they know when it's over. Guys don't like ending them unless he REALLY doesn't respect you.

Guys kind of hang on to long as it is.

[Chery]

I really don't have the energy today to get into it deeper,but women hang onto stupid relationships too long also, just 'hoping' that the guys come to their senses, without much success.

[Wildcat21]

Chery - I agree fully with that.

[Chery]

Chery - I agree fully with that.

Thanks, dear, but on got you on another post:p , on taking charge and making plans - ha ha... Have a good one.

[Wildcat21]

There you go again. Saying you prefer something. But, in reality... if a guy didn't lead - you would leave him.

[s_cianci]

It sounds as though your suspicions were a little out of line. As a professional photographer I'm sure he's taken thousands of pictures of women and will take thousands more in the course of his career. I can certainly understand him not wanting to feel like he has to "walk on eggshells" as that can be some pretty tough shoes to have to fill. However, I'm not so sure that he needed to get so defensive about your inquiry either. After all, you simply asked a question about a photography subject that you happened to observe in his darkroom. Do you want to feel like you'll have to spendd the rest of your life walking on eggshells? This is something that you have to think long and hard about. It sounds like the both of you have some serious but unrelated insecurities to work through if the two of you are ever to have any hope for a successful relationship. I'd think long and hard before getting any more serious with this guy until the both of you get some type of therapy, not so much as a couple but individually to work out whatever underlying issues cause the both of you to be so suspicious and insecure.

[Chery]

It sounds as though your suspicions were a little out of line. As a professional photographer I'm sure he's taken thousands of pictures of women and will take thousands more in the course of his career. I can certainly understand him not wanting to feel like he has to "walk on eggshells" as that can be some pretty tough shoes to have to fill. However, I'm not so sure that he needed to get so defensive about your inquiry either. After all, you simply asked a question about a photography subject that you happened to observe in his darkroom. Do you want to feel like you'll have to spendd the rest of your life walking on eggshells? This is something that you have to think long and hard about. It sounds like the both of you have some serious but unrelated insecurities to work through if the two of you are ever to have any hope for a successful relationship. I'd think long and hard before getting any more serious with this guy until the both of you get some type of therapy, not so much as a couple but individually to work out whatever underlying issues cause the both of you to be so suspicious and insecure.

If you look at post 12 here, you'll find out that he's not a professional photographer. Also he is set is in ways and only a whole slew of horses would take him to a therapist, you're right about his insecurities though and he is a selfish kind of person. I tried to rate you several times today but I always get a stupid message about spreading them around, no matter who I pick, so consider yourself 'rated' positively many times from me. S_C.

[s_cianci]

Well Chery, thanks for the vote of confidence. You may be right about his refusal to consider a therapist. If that's the case, then that's all the more reason for the starter of this thread to click her heels and walk away. After all, if he doesn't want to confront his insecurities and attempt to make himself a better person, then he doesn't deserve to be in a relationship.

[Chery]

Well Chery, thanks for the vote of confidence. You may be right about his refusal to consider a therapist. If that's the case, then that's all the more reason for the starter of this thread to click her heels and walk away. After all, if he doesn't want to confront his insecurities and attempt to make himself a better person, then he doesn't deserve to be in a relationship.

You're absolutely right, but she must make her own choice. I just wish her lots of luck, because she's stuck on him. We are only human when it comes to emotions and logic, they sometimes clash.