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Jun 22, 2007, 07:34 AM
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Just where did they find that 14%?
That Wacky Fourteen Percent
By Jon Sanders
Friday, June 22, 2007
Americans' confidence in Congress is at a historic low point, according to results of a Gallup poll released Thursday. Only 14 percent of Americans surveyed said they had a "great deal" or "quite a lot" of confidence in Congress.
That is the lowest confidence level recorded in the history of Gallup polling on that institution, going back to 1973. The previous low was 18 percent in 1991, 1993 and 1994. Those happen to be the last years before the present that the Democrats controlled both chambers – and in 1991 there was also a Republican named George Bush in the White House.
Nevertheless, someone surveying the current political landscape could very well be surprised by that 14 percent. It seems far too high. Where, he might wonder, did Gallup find any Americans actually confident in Congress? One assumes they're not all lobbyists. Has Gallup penetrated the vaunted "shadows" wherein all those "undocumented Americans" (to use the euphemism of the year) are squirreled away awaiting the latest amnesty thaw?
No, that's not it. In this great country, you can find a handful of people who hold onto just about any fatuous belief, be it that Elvis is alive, lucky numbers are real, or Congress is trustworthy. What's really interesting is how the 14 percent who admit to confidence in Congress (perhaps via displaced Santa Clausism) compare in numbers with holders of other beliefs. Some examples:
* Thirty percent of Americans believe in UFOs, agreeing that "some of the unidentified flying objects that are reported are really space vehicles from other civilizations," according to a 2001 survey by the National Science Foundation (NSF).
* Thirty-one percent of Americans believe that astrology — which holds that the alignment of celestial bodies actually affects people's destinies — is at least "sort of scientific." Another nine percent said it was "very scientific" (NSF, 2001).
* About 19 percent of Americans believe that Elvis is either alive or that there is a chance he is still alive (Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll, 2002).
* About 22 percent of Americans believe that President Bush knew of the 9/11 attacks in advance (Rasmussen, 2007).
* Sixteen percent (and Rosie O'Donnell) believe that explosives brought down the World Trade Center (Scripps Howard/Ohio University, 2006).
* About 17 percent believe that "Creatures such as Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster will one day be discovered by science" (Baylor Religion Survey, 2005).
* Twenty-two percent of Americans believed in five or more of the following 10 pseudoscientific beliefs: "extrasensory perception (ESP), that houses can be haunted, ghosts/spirits of dead people can come back in certain places/situations, telepathy/communication between minds without using traditional senses, clairvoyance/the power of the mind to know the past and predict the future, astrology/that the position of the stars and planets affect people's lives, that people can communicate mentally with someone who has died, witches, reincarnation/the rebirth of the soul in a new body after death, and channeling/allowing a "spirit-being" to temporarily assume control of a body" (NSF 2001).
Even those handfuls are greater than the proportion of Americans with confidence in Congress – which still doesn't make the latter any less perplexing. One suspects that, if given an option stated explicitly in Fox's Elvis poll, the great majority would have agreed: "Those people are crazy."
I find it absolutely hilarious that there is less confidence in Congress than there is in UFOs, ghosts, Elvis being alive, Astrology, and the existence of Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster.
I'm also shocked that the number who are confident in Congress is as high as 14%. So exactly where did these pollsters dig up this 14%? What were these people smoking, and have they got any extra for me?
Elliot
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Ultra Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 07:46 AM
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He's one of the 14%
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Uber Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 08:02 AM
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Hello:
I just wonder if you made fun when the Republican congress wasn't liked either... I'll bet you didn't. I, however, didn't like either congress.
Tom DeLay was your guy, huh?? And, you think I'M high?? Bwa, ha ha ha.
excon
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Ultra Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 08:06 AM
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It get's even worse when you start exploring specific issues like comprehensive immigration . Only 3% of Americans approve the way Congress is shoving the immigration bill down our throats according to Zogby International.
I heard some suggest that we should build a wall around Washinton DC .
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Senior Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 08:15 AM
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excon,
I make fun of Congress all the time, not just when the Dems are in power.
However, the Republican Congress didn't have a 14% approval rating. Even at its lowest, the Bush Republican Congress had approval ratings in the 20s and 30s. In fact, the Republican Congress's approval ratings were roughly on par with Bush's, sometimes slightly lower. But this is the first time in all of polling history that Congress' numbers have gone as low as 14%. And they didn't just break the old record, they shattered it: the old record low was 18%.
Elliot
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Uber Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 08:49 AM
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Hello:
We live in a society of instant gratification combined with political ignorance. It's a deadly conflagration.
The left wing wanted an end to the war - NOW. K, the new congress tried. They didn't have the votes to override. That's political reality. The left doesn't understand that, so they trash their own.
The right doesn't do that.
excon
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Uber Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 09:27 AM
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Ken Fisher. P 198 4 June 07 Forbes magazine. Also on line.
I try to stay out of these no win discussions. After all if you guys weren't able to make excon see the light on the other site, can you here even if I help?
I would settle for convincing people to take their sick dog to the vet instead of tempting it to eat with rich food.
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Uber Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 09:44 AM
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Hello labdude:
See the light?? Dude, you don't get it. You never did. At least they engage me. You just call me names…
excon
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Full Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 10:07 AM
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Better watch it ETW, I thing 90% of the people on this forum believe in the those things you were making fun of.
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Ultra Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 10:22 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
I heard some suggest that we should build a wall around Washinton DC .
Now that's an idea worth some serious consideration. :D
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Ultra Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 10:23 AM
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We live in a society of instant gratification combined with political ignorance.
DING DING DING!
But I have to add something - it's not just political ignorance!
I wonder if people don't really get that the President and Congress are two different bodies; Bush gets blamed for everything (no, I'm not defending him) by the general American public, and most people have no clue who their state reps are. To me, it stands to reason that if Bush's approval rating is low, so will that of Congress because frankly, people don't know how government works. Not sure why it's so MUCH lower at this point... maybe people are going to start blaming the whole gubment instead of just Dubya.
Additionally:
US President George Bush's approval rating plunged to a new low of 26 percent, making him the least popular US president since Richard Nixon, a poll released on Thursday found.
Woo-hoo! Number one!
Article here:
IOL: Bush's approval rating continues to plummet
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Ultra Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 10:25 AM
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Elvis is dead? I could have sworn I saw him on TV a couple of nights ago.
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Ultra Member
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Jun 22, 2007, 11:30 AM
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Elvis is dead? I could have sworn I saw him on TV a couple of nights ago.
He's all over Vegas.
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