[ordinaryguy]

inthebox agrees: what do you mean "in the spirit?"

To me, living in the Spirit means to cultivate an awareness of and respect for the spiritual dimension of life and consciousness. It also means being humble in accepting that some truths are ineffable and beyond the grasp of the intellectual mind. In interpersonal relationships, it means being compassionate and understanding of the faults and shortcomings of others and myself. Of course, sometimes I forget and fall into the usual habits of the material mind and body and get cranky, critical and judgmental, so it's a work in progress.

[ActionJackson]

"what do you mean "in the spirit?"

It probably depends on a person's religion but from my viewpoint, it's when a person is at a point where he is open to the leading of the Holy Ghost. It's when a person has recognized his sin nature and his weakness and he's standing before God with a repentant spirit and he recognizes his own weakness and his total need for a Saviour. It's when that person turns his live completely and totally over to the Lord Jesus Christ and recognizes that He is the ONLY reason why life even exists.

[NeedKarma]

ActionJackson disagrees: A few too many jeers and jabs from the peanut gallery. One liners... no substance.

You make that Disagree comment on this post:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/christ...tml#post459984

What the hell was there to disagree with?? You seriously confuse me!

[startover22]

I guess he is saying you give no explanation? No details? On the other hand, sometimes we can say things with no details!

[NeedKarma]

No details about what? That I know who I am? That I love my kids? That I'm not a hypocrite? That I don't condemn others to a lifetime in hell?

[startover22]

Like I said you don't have to explain that. It is plain and simple! Some people want more. I am fine with what you said.

[ActionJackson]

I guess he is saying you give no explaination? No details? On the other hand, sometimes we can say things with no details!

Sort of. More like, he'll pick out one thing I say, jab at it, but leave no real explanation as to what his disagreement is or why he is jabbing. He is clearly a non-Christian but spends a great deal of time in the Christian discussions distracting others for no apparent reason. No biggy... I've dealt with this type of personality off and on for many years.

[ActionJackson]

No details about what?? That I know who I am? That I love my kids? Taht I'm not a hypocrite? That I don't condemn others to a lifetime in hell?

Okay, you know who you are. You love your kids. You're not a hypocrite? You don't condemn others to a lifetime in hell. Very good.

[startover22]

I don't condem anyone either, only because I don't have the power to do so. I think NeedKarma really likes a good debate or argument, so that is why he does what he does. I am speaking for him and that is NOT cool. So I will leave this between you and him. I like you though Action... If that matters at all.

[ActionJackson]

I don't condem anyone either, only because I don't have the power to do so. I think NeedKarma really likes a good debate or argument, so that is why he does what he does. I am speaking for him and that is NOT cool. So I will leave this between you and him. I like you though Action......If that matters at all.

Thanks. I think NK is more intelligent than the one liners reflect. I don't really have anything against him personally but he does seem to pick me out and jab at me for some reason. If he wants to discuss a specific topic, that's fine with me but if he comes into the Christians rooms just to start trouble, then he IS a hypocrite for being contrary to what or who he claims to be.

[startover22]

Well he picked one with me and jabbed at me and I almost sent him flowers! Action, don't take it personal. If you don't like what someone is saying or doing we are supposed to ignore it and not give any CREDIT for it. Although it may be hard, it is effective!

[ActionJackson]

Well he picked one with me and jabbed at me and I almost sent him flowers! Action, don't take it personal. If you don't like what someone is saying or doing we are supposed to ignore it and not give any CREDIT for it. Although it may be hard, it is effective!

Agreed, some days I just send him some funny retort and move on. I am very quick to forgive and hold no grudges. I have avoided going where he goes but on occasion, today being one, he followed me to where I was and jabbed with a one liner then ran. No big thing. I am here because I enjoy the fellowship and, to be honest, I enjoy some of the disagreements. It forces me to open my Bible and read it. It forces me to think. The battle to find truth helps us all grow if it is truth that we seek.

[startover22]

Isn't it funny how some of these post completely carry on into different thoughts and perspectives on so many other things other than the question in the first place?? It is no wonder there are so many things to talk about, I had no idea that life was this complicated before I started to come on this site... I am not stupid but I never really thought to think about them this deep. I think of things so black and white, but sometimes there is much more to the picture. Anyway, I guess I will let you get back to what you were doing, you guys get on with the conversation and I will try to stay out of it... LOL I need to do more book worming...

[startover22]

You know what, I keep thinking that same thing, (it is black and white) but it seems to me that there is so much grey for these people that post here. I keep second guessing myself for some reason... It is really starting to annoy me!

[nanajo1]

Can't we all get along and accept each other for what they are with out attacking anyone. The way that I look at it, we are all here for a purpose, we should love and accept each other and treat those around us whether we know them well or not. Treat as we expect to be treated and then when Karma does come swingin by you aren't hit by the force of a mountain.

[startover22]

Nanajo, I agree to a certain extent but if we let everyone be, then we could have serious problems. If we were all kind to each other then we wouldn't have these issues... I am not heading this toward karma or anyone in particular, I am heading it towards all of us. Just wanted to make myself clear. Good night to you good people!

[ActionJackson]

You know what, I keep thinking that same thing, (it is black and white) but it seems to me that there is so much grey for these people that post here. I keep second guessing myself for some reason.....It is really starting to annoy me!

Part of the title to this thread is "haters." Haters of Christ and Christianity will always try to make us stumble or fall. It's their purpose. Even Christ, Himself, was tempted by the devil. He didn't waver and he didn't compromise. Three times He told Satan "it is written..." He always fell back on Scripture when Satan tempted Him. I believe that God loves us enough that He allows us to be tempted. He allows the satans (adversaries) of the world to tempt us just like He allowed Satan to tempt Job way back in the Old Testament. This earth is a testing ground. God wants to see what we are made of and if we have what it takes to stand firm. Black and white.

[ActionJackson]

cant we all get along and accept each other for what they are with out attacking anyone. the way that i look at it, we are all here for a purpose, we should love and accept each other and treat those around us whether we know them well or not. Treat as we expect to be treated and then when Karma does come swingin by you arent hit by the force of a mountain.

"Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." Ephesians 6:11. In fact, please read Ephesians 6:10-17 and 18 Paul is issuing a battle cry. We are in a spiritual battle. We don't put on the "armour of God" unless we are going into battle. It's a battle for the souls of men (and women). Chirst told us in Luke 19:13b, "...Occupy till I come." To occupy is to stand ground. Every time we "just accept them for what they are" we just gave up some ground. Christians need to put their hearts, minds, bodies, and souls into their belief in Christ and His Word. Compromising our faith for the sake of peace is not why Christ came. "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." Matthew 10:34-36

[NeedKarma]

Action,
You sound exactly like the Islamic fundamentalists. Just saying.

[ActionJackson]

Action,
You sound exactly like the Islamic fundamentalists. Just saying.

Not quite... they don't believe that Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords. Secondly, the armour and swords that I speak of are of a spiritual nature rather than literal bombs and bullets. Now a group who could be likened to the Islamic fundamentalists were the Russian Bolsheviks. However, they believed in socialism, secular humanism, and evolution as well as bullets and killing. Food for thought.