[NeedKarma]

1)Would you let your children watch a nature show where a lion eats a gazelle? After a certain age, say 8 or 9.
2)Would you allow your children to see two people in bed, French kissing on television? Premarital sex or adultery or prostitution? No.
3)Will you allow your children to learn about evolution in public school? Opposite of God's Creation? Big yes on evolution. Public school has nothing to do with christianity teaching.
4)Will they be allowed to put a condom on a banana in sex ed? Practice for future activities? Parents will teach about sex ed. What do you do at your house? How is this relevant to the bible?
5)Will your children be allowed to watch the evening news with bombs exploding in Iraq or the World Trade Center towers crumbling to the ground? Bloody truth. No, not until they get older to understand certain things.
6)Does the books of Psalms and Proverbs fall into the "good" part of the Old Testament? Tough call, Psalms is somewhat benign, I forget about Proverbs.
7)How about the story of God's creative power as found in Genesis? Does that fall into the "bad" section? Yes.

Out of curiosity, what books would you allow your children to read? Age appropriate books.

I hope that answers your questions. :)

[ActionJackson]

Hey need karma,
Your ignorance, immaturity, and obvious lack of the fear of God is so plain for all to see. Since you seem to be so intent on "bending" the Scripture with your childish actions,I will caution you about this by sharing a scripture with you...Galatians 6:7,8..Be not deceived, God is not mocked:for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption: but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. I fear for you when you don't have the sense to fear for yourself. You need to repent and beg the forgiveness of a merciful God.

Hello poppa0777. Nice to meet you. The very name "NeedKarma" kind of says it all. Karma is a philosophy taught in the eastern religions (hinduism or buddhism? ) so it comes as no surprise that NK is opposed to all that is Godly and Christian. He/she has a great deal of animosity towards Holy Scriptures. He/she will pick what questions he/she will answer but avoid the tough ones. He/she argues for the sake of arguing. We will always come across NKs in our life... people who don't care about truth or falsehood but always fall victim to their own self deceit. On the other hand, there are others who are an oasis of common sense. Again, nice to meet you.

[Skell]

Hey need karma,
Your ignorance, immaturity, and obvious lack of the fear of God is so plain for all to see. Since you seem to be so intent on "bending" the Scripture with you childish actions,I will caution you about this by sharing a scripture with you...Galatians 6:7,8..Be not deceived, God is not mocked:for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption: but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. I fear for you when you don't have the sense to fear for yourself. You need to repent and beg the forgiveness of a merciful God.

For the record I meant to disagree with this post! Unnecessary in my view.

NK has not showed ignorance nor immaturity. He has asked questions, which obviously have struck a chord with you and brought on this attack.

I have not seen you address his questions at all. Why not?

[Retrotia]

I agree with the post by poppa. NK's post( to marily) was sarcastic & disrespectful of Chrisianity & the Bible.
For the record... Skell :p

[NeedKarma]

Why the hatred? All I did was post quotes from the bible. The same thing that most of you do in every other post. What part of that has angered you? It's all from the same book that you offer as an excellent life guide.

[NeedKarma]

He/she will pick and choose what questions he/she will answer but avoid the tough ones.

Did you not see where I answered every single one of your questions? Yet no one has answered the questions I originally posted.

[ActionJackson]

Did you not see where I answered every single one of your questions? Yet no one has answered the questions I originally posted.

Well I must admit, you answered MOST of the questions but I'm still interested to know where you draw the line between 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, 50%, 51%, or 100%. You know what I'm talking about... you can revisit the post if you don't remember.

The Bible is more than just a "life guide." You may hear some people repeating that mantra but I'm not one of them. Yes, it contains God's plan for how we should live our lives but it's more than that. It's a history of man's origin; his migrations; his interactions with God and man. Even the portions of the Bible where men do evil things are a benefit to the reader because it shows the consequences of doing evil vs. doing things righteously. The Bible transcends time because it speaks of things to come. The Bible should be a comfort to the reader but also a warning. More than anything, the Bible reveals God's undying love for His creation. Not only did He love mankind enough to create him in the first place, but He loved us enough to send His Son, Jesus Christ, to die for our sins. I haven't yet heard you make the claim that you are without sin so I assume that you recognize the fact that you aren't without sin. If Christ's painful suffering and death was not a sufficient sacrifice for your sins, then who will be? Buddha?

I have not read every post you have ever written so I'm not completely familiar with your entire philosophy. I know that you reject God and His Word. That being the case, what's your blueprint for life? Remember, if you're wrong, your example and teaching will lead your children down the very same path you're heading.

[NeedKarma]

Well I must admit, you answered MOST of the questions but I'm still interested to know where you draw the line between 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, 50%, 51%, or 100%. You know what I'm talking about...you can revisit the post if you don't remember.

Well it helps to at least read the posts in the thread that you are posting in. The 10% number stems from this post in this very thread.

That being the case, what's your blueprint for life? Remember, if you're wrong, your example and teaching will lead your children down the very same path you're heading.

Well I'm heading down a great path thank you very much. I have a good life with a great wife and kids. I make good decisions. We laugh and explore the world and make friends with all types of people. What's your path like?

If you met my kids you'd be impressed by their zest for life, intelligence, empathy and politeness. All this taught to them by their parents. All without the benefit of interpreting vague parables from the bible. How can this be?? I'm actually making my own decisions and selecting my own morals!

[ActionJackson]

10%
Well I'm heading down a great path thank you very much. I have a good life with a great wife and kids. I make good decisions. We laugh and explore the world and make friends with all types of people. What's your path like?
If you met my kids you'd be impressed by their zest for life, intelligence, empathy and politeness. All this taught to them by their parents. All without the benefit of interpreting vague parables from the bible. How can this be???? I'm actually making my own decisions and selecting my own morals!

Okay, so if a book has 20% good bits of truth and 80% bad bits of truth, it's acceptable. That's all I asked and I thank you for your answer. You have now answered all of my questions... thank you.

In one sense, we're on the very same path i.e. life on this planet. We'll both face similar adversity; we will both laugh and both cry; we will meet really cool people and some really evil individuals; we both care about our families and provide for them the best we can. But if you're not on the path that was paved with the suffering, pain, and death of Jesus Christ, it's not really a "great" path. "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:13,14

The only real difference between your path and mine is the difference between our faith or lack of faith in Jesus Christ. Christ opened that door or "gate" for us. It's our choice whether we go in or not.

[NeedKarma]

[NeedKarma]

Marily disagrees: A life without God is not much of a life.

What are you talking about? Millions upon millions of people are having a great life being other than what you are. The arrogance of your statement is frightening. :(

[Marily]

Straight is the gate and narrow is the way, those who find it are few.

[NeedKarma]

None are so blind as those who will not see.

[NowWhat]

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.




That is the only "witty" thing I could think of... :)

[NeedKarma]

But it works well.. for both sides. :)

[poppa0777]

Hello poppa0777. Nice to meet you. The very name "NeedKarma" kinda says it all. Karma is a philosophy taught in the eastern religions (hinduism or buddhism??) so it comes as no surprise that NK is opposed to all that is Godly and Christian. He/she has a great deal of animosity towards Holy Scriptures. He/she will pick and choose what questions he/she will answer but avoid the tough ones. He/she argues for the sake of arguing. We will always come across NKs in our life...people who don't care about truth or falsehood but always fall victim to their own self deceit. On the other hand, there are others who are an oasis of common sense. Again, nice to meet you.

Hi Skell... Would you please be more specific on the "tough issues"? I would like to answer them to the best of my ability.I suspect that our main line of division will be that I believe the Word of God (The Holy Bible) is the absolute,final, complete, and authoritative Work of the Holy Ghost, and must be viewed that way. The problem usually comes in when an unbeliever attempts to discern the Scriptures. Scripture can only be understood and correctly discerned by a Child of the most High God. No one has all of the answers, as the Scripture is spiritually discerned, and answers come to us in God's timing. For me, this takes a lot of prayer and diligence in the Word of God. I have been a serious student of the Scriptures for 32 years, and have far more questions than answers. I write this in the spirit of trying to do and say the right thing:o .

[NeedKarma]

Scripture can only be understood and correctly discerned by a Child of the most High God.

So it is not understood by the regular man, woman, or child?

[Retrotia]

Needkarma,
Yes, I believe that's true-about actually understanding the Bible. Before I was saved, I read a little here & there, but I couldn't make much sense of it then.

2:10 God has revealed these to us by the Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 2:11 For who among men knows the things of a man except the man’s spirit within him? So too, no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 2:12 Now we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things that are freely given to us by God. 2:13 And we speak about these things, not with words taught us by human wisdom, but with those taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual things to spiritual people. 8 2:14 The unbeliever 9 does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him. And he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 2:15 The one who is spiritual discerns 10 all things, yet he himself is understood 11 by no one. 2:16 For who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to advise him? 12 But we have the mind of Christ. (1Corinthians 2:10-16)

That's why you keep mentioning the Old Testament Laws. Jesus came to fulfill the law. The Law ends with Jesus. We (Christians) are now under grace, not the law. Only very religious Jews keep all those laws. But that's another story that will be worked out for them in God's time.
So, I hope you understand a little now about those laws.:)

[poppa0777]

So it is not understood by the regular man, woman, or child?

NeedKarma,
That is exactly what the Bible says, and what I believe. The below words in (brackets and bold )are mine for clarity

(1Co 2:10) But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11) For what man knoweth the things of a man, save (except) the spirit of man which is in him? Even so the things of God knoweth (understandeth)no man, but the Spirit of God.
(1Co 2:12) Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
(1Co 2:13) Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
(1Co 2:14) But the natural man (non-Christians)receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know (understand)them, because they are spiritually discerned.
(1Co 2:15) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
(1Co 2:16) For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we (Christians)have the mind of Christ.
I hope this helps.

[ActionJackson]

Thanks for the thumbs up. I can move on now.