[tomder55]

You Canadians do your little part. You have even been helpful in places like Afghanistan.

The quote makes perfect sense in the context of travelling to other nations that live under the unbrella of US military protection.

But ;I am curious... with the so called global warming threat ; is Canada prepared to beef up it's costal security when the Artctic Ocean becomes navigiable and a viable sea passage ? Are you prepared to dole out the funding to adequately defend your northern front ?

[NeedKarma]

Yes.

[Megg]

Nice lyrics, but I'm with inthebox and tomder on this one!

I bet if you gave either of these artist the Presidency, the USA would be ruined within a couple of months.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of George W. but I think it's easy to sit there and write songs against a sitting duck.

Show me a country without problems where everyone is happy with their government.

Nope, didn't think so!

Ok, for all posts regarding this type of comment, I think your completely off topic. And I totally disagree. Artists do not sing songs to appeal to YOU and YOUR way of thinking. Pink for example, writes songs that SHE wants to and if you don't like it ''F OFF'' in her words more or less. They don't write songs to please you, they do it for themsleves and for what they believe in. Given, not ALL artists do, but some. Pink was expressing HER veiws and opinions. She NEVER once said she wanted to BE prez or deal with the problems that a prez has to deal with. She never once said that she'd be BETTER than anyone. The point is, the prez and government IS what is wrong with this country the USA. If people want to speak out about it, then let them, maybe they will shed some light to dark places. I think its completely retarded to sit here and be like ''We shouldn't write songs about government because if we do then we must think we can do a better job.'' Or to think that they'd ruin this country. BULLSHIZ. I'd vote for Pink ANYDAY! She has a good heart, stregnth, courage, leadership abilities and well I think if she could be in the running she'd be a damn fine prez. But the point is to try to put words into her mouth and anyone's mouth that speaks against the government, well I think your rude and clearly you do not agree with freedooom of speech so lets go back to the 1300's why don't we. No one EVER said that every country is perfect. But if we'd get off our high horse and stop blindly following the government and actually do something to change it or build the foundations of change then we'd be getting somewhere. If you ask me, song writters on these subjects ARE changing the world. One heart at a time.

[ashleysb]

As Rayne said, the artists never said they could do better at being president. They wrote these songs from their point of view. But never the less, when you take a job, no one forces you into it. It is your choice. Therefore you are expected to do that job whether you answer to a boss or a whole country. And unfortunately, Mr. Bush has let a lot of Americans down. And if these artists want to share their feelings about it, they have a right to do it. If you don't agree, don't listen. It's that simple. Just remember, these people didn't run for office, they didn't tell Americans, "I will do this," or "I will do that." President Bush did that, and these people feel let down by his actions. So if they want to write a song about his choices, too bad so sad, they can.

[navy_sr_chief]

When you get older, your post will seem laughable to you. Remember the old saying “If you are not a liberal when you are young... you have no heart. If you are not a conservative when you are old... you have no brain. ...” I know you will totally disagree and say you will never change, but you will. It happens to all of us. It’s amazing how a couple of years of paying taxes, working, and raising kids can change your political view.

[Megg]

Who are we to jugde? Who are we to think 20 years makes a difference... it really doesn't. Paying taxes and having a family changes nothing. Maybe for the waek people. Today's youth will be tomorrow's future give way and get used to the idea. Not all of us are naïve. Not all of us are going to lay down and play dead.

[alkalineangel]

Its unfair to tell someone disagreeing with the lyrics that they are off topic, when you don't consider yourself off topic by agreeing with them. This is a site for opinions and those people were giving them. I like the song, and I give Pink and other artists like her a hand for standing up and voicing their beliefs. That's what our country is for. But I agree with the others that it isn't all on the president. I agree that he is a very poor speaker, and tends to make our country look dumb, and I would rather there be someone else in office, but blaming everything on him is stupid when he is influenced by many other powers in our government. There is this little thing called checks and balances, the president is not solely responsible for everything that he does. It goes through many many many people.

[navy_sr_chief]

Rayne,
You just proved my point. I was right when I said you would disagree with me and tell me you will never change. If I have the wisdom to know your answer before you even respond, what makes you think I will be wrong about the fact that your politics will change as you gain life experience? Trust me, the change will happen. Remember, your Grandparents were part of the hippie Height / Ashbury Generation. Do they share the same political views as you? See… Everyone changes.

[inthebox]

Rayne :

Can you please link us to sites demonstrating Pink's humanitarian efforts?

Your idealism is admirable

But the negativity and chatter {on both sides} is tiresome.

I know I don't have the patience, thick skin, communication skills, diplomacy to be President for a day. I don't agree with GWB [ medicare D, immigration to name a few ]
Also, but would not the world be better if:
- everyone was personally responsible - instead of trying to blame others
- everyone focused on the good and positive of others, because none of us is perfect.




Grace and Peace

[rockerchick_682]

When you get older, your post will seem laughable to you. Remember the old saying “If you are not a liberal when you are young... you have no heart. If you are not a conservative when you are old... you have no brain. ...” I know you will totally disagree and say you will never change, but you will. It happens to all of us. It's amazing how a couple of years of paying taxes, working, and raising kids can change your political view.

Actually I'm quite young, so no, I've never heard that saying. I agree with Pink's views totally. There are homeless on the street, do something about it. People hate gays cause that's what their religion says, not cause it's their own opinion. If you love someone else why can't you marry them, no matter what gender you both are? You really think that just cause we're young we don't know what change is? What? You never went through high school? Our troops are dying cause our dumbass president sent us into a pointless war. I don't give a sh%t how old you are buddy, that doesn't give me a reason to respect you. Just cause I haven't had the chance to have a family doesn't mean I don't have a grip on life. I think it's great that Pink wrote a song about her views, she's one of the only ones that can get her views heard. If new generations never pressed their views on their elders, where would we be now?

[alkalineangel]

Also take into consideration the fact that our economy is really doing well right now, our stock markets are at an all time high, and compared to many other countries our health is amazing. We are making great advances thanks to our government. It has its problems, but in all reality wouldn't you admit that we are doing very well compared to other countries? As for the war. What decision would you have made in the same situation as him? Like I said, I'm not a big fan of GWB either, but I think he has done the best he could with a bad situation.

As for the Gay and Lesbian issues, I agree something needs to be done, the government should not control that, but I am not willing to give up our government for another are you?

[Megg]

Preach it Rockerchick... I totally am with you. You are just rude to us because were young.. 21 isn't a kid... lol. I find old people anoying. Move out of the way if you don't like young people. Just deal with it. Join us or fight us. Whatever.


Ohh and our country has tons of problems your just ignoring them

[navy_sr_chief]

Actually I'm quite young, so no, I've never heard that saying. I agree with Pink's views totally. There are homeless on the street, do something about it. People hate gays cause that's what their religion says, not cause it's their own opinion. If you love someone else why can't you marry them, no matter what gender you both are? You really think that just cause we're young we don't know what change is? What? You never went through high school? Our troops are dying cause our dumbass president sent us into a pointless war. I don't give a sh%t how old you are buddy, that doesn't give me a reason to respect you. Just cause I haven't had the chance to have a family doesn't mean I don't have a grip on life. I think it's great that Pink wrote a song about her views, she's one of the only ones that can get her views heard. If new generations never pressed their views on their elders, where would we be now?

Rockerchick,
Thank you for your concern for the troops - considering I am one and have served in the Middle East in support of the Global War on Terrorism and will probably go back again before I retire from active duty. Just remember, if it were not for the sacrifices of the generations before you, you would not have the freedom to speak you mind in this forum.

[inthebox]

Rayne :


My point was that it is easy to talk the talk but who really walks the walk?

Pink is doing the talking - which she is entitled to do
Is she walking the walk?



Grace and Peace

[NeedKarma]

inthebox,

What are YOU doing to make your country better?

[Megg]

From what I know of her, she does charities which is more then enough. A lot of people do the talk and walk. As for me, just so you can't try to push this on me in the future... I come here and give advice for me that's enough.

[navy_sr_chief]

Raynefreak,

I have nothing against young people. Hell, I have yet to hit 40 myself. I just hate to see people such a limited life experience making such bold statements when everyone knows it's just the ignorance of youth speaking. By the way, if you and your generation are going to takeover the world, please for God's sake, take someone with you to proof read your propaganda. Otherwise, none of us is ever going to know what the heck you are trying to get across in your rants.

[alkalineangel]

I agree that we have homelessness, and that the government tends to try and control things like marriage laws that they shouldn't have a right to, but I still am not against a war that is doing good in a country that needed help. Don't you think those people deserved to live lives of their choosing, instead of the choosing of a dictator? Is it right for someone to think they can come here on our soil and disrupt thousands of lives in a matter of minutes? It is sad that the men and women fighting may die and that mothers may never say goodbye, but those soldiers signed up for their job. It was their decision to go there. They are defending our freedoms and that was their choice... and most of them would do it all over again if given the opportunity.

[inthebox]

Need karma:

Not much

I pay taxes
I work with veterans
I pray
Adopted 3 children


I definitely could do more though




Grace and peace

[Megg]

I didn't imply that our youth is going to ''take over the world'' like Hitler or some kind of king. It's just we are growing up and getting older and the older are gettting older and dying off. If you refer to my spelling I can spell, just not perfect. I also don't think I rant and if I do sorry but I like to debate and talk about my thoughts. If people would do that more often the world may be a better place and more people would be understood.