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Here's another thing too. You mention your address here as being in Saint-Lazare. As an ex-West-Islander I know exactly where that is. Yet a Canada 411 search with that info turns up nothing, and the phone number you post is a Toronto number. What's going on?
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I have just recently located from Toronto.. because of my business giving me the funding ability, I have moved to a horse farm (you know St. L) is famous for that. I choose to keep my same phone number for friends and family still in TO and my business. I use vonage.. which is great for when I travel. I am blessed to be able to do that a lot! Plug the laptop into a hotel room high speed connection and bingo, my phone and business centre (online office) are up and running. I work anywhere there is high speed internet, and that is the majority of major hotel chains these days.
As for MLM.. Multi-Level Marketing Definition That is a definition NOT from me! We don't have a recurring part commission from all future sales.. that is an MLM thing, NOT a coastal thing. Gee, actually.. I said the very same thing on my website! Also, have a look there (its in my sig link) at the testimonials. If you don't think I'm real, you can speak with the people on that page (their real contact info is included) as ask THEM how much time and energy I invest in those I work with, how real I am, how genuine I am, what their product and system experiences are. Whatever.. that is the point. Get information from someplace other then the horses mouth so there is credibility. My address is also on that website. Google earth it, if you like. White house, green trim, horsefarm. If you are familiar with it, this used to be Equinox and is just downt the road a wee bit from Rappenhoff. Cheers Jani Teeter L3 Director, CSG |
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Yes.. may of us do self included. Have a look at my website, and see if you think I am the right director for you. If there seems to be a fit, get in touch with me and we can work something out that works for you SHOULD you also be the right person for me to work with!
Where there is a will there is a way. I didn't have the money to start either. I REALLY did not have the money- I was a single mother on benefits that left me going to the food bank. You have made the decision to get started, that is the hard part. Finding a way, when you have will and determination is much easier! Best wishes to you! Jani Teeter L3 Director, CSG |
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Yes, I remember Rppenhoff (sp?). My concern is for the large percentage of people that pay the "fee" (what is it? $1250?) and never continue on with it. Apparently that happens a lot, so they are out $1250, who gets that money?
Plus they are many reports of bad directors. Because Coastal is not a company as you stress, getting recourse for any eventually is very difficult. BTW here's a more objective description of MLM: Multi-level marketing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Did you join this site to help with people asking questions or simply to pump your company? |
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It's a really nice place, I love it here!!
Well.. the "fee" you are referring to is actually the cost of owning a lifetime travel membership- that makes you are member of coastal vacations. That product belongs to the potential business owner, they can do as they please with it (which includes sharing it with friends, family members business associates etc etc.) You might be interested to note that in fact, the membership has been around for many many years before this even became a home based business op. It was originally sold retail, and still is by many. You don't HAVE to want to start a CV business to purchase a package- the opportunity to do so is an added benefit. The packages are valued at well over what people pay for it. We encourage people to know exactly what the product AND business is all (if they are looking into owning a CV business) about and how it all works before they purchase it. Or at least as a CSG member I do. There are lots of crappy directors out there- you are right. But there are also MANY really great ones. "Recourse"- any issues with the travel itself are handled by the providers. IE you get a leaky roof in your hotel room, you talk to the hotel manager. Our board of directors also investigates and handles complaints about providers themselves (for example the hotel manager said tough luck with the leaky roof)- and kick them out and replace them for unsatisfactory performance. Then, I have chosen to be a member of an organized group within coastal. They also monitor their membership- there are standards I have to meet and comply with in order to use and access their tools and resources which help me tremendously in my business. If you are asking what guarantees there will be that you are successful in your business- there ARE none- in this or ANY other business. Imagine, buying into a macdonalds franchise, doing your careful research, looking at numbers- informing yourself of all the information to determine if it was a risk you wanted to take and before plunking down your $250,0000+ asking for a written money back guarantee you WILL be successful? No one can ever guarantee anyone else's success in ANYTHING. I personally would run from anyone who ever said that they could. I do know from my own careful research that the chances of having a six figure income with the CSG more then triples national statistics for the general population. That made the "risk" worth it, for me. IMHO- at least with this business you do have something to show for it which is a useful and permanent asset at the end of the day if you decide to fail. I knew that if I did quit my business, I had already made up the cost with the product's value. Not to mention tax write offs. BTW.. failure is a DECISION people make by not doing the work, following the system, remaining coachable and quitting. Usually they thought they would go to be poor and wake up rich. I'm not looking to work with those individuals. I am confident that the complainers who have failed in this business are people who quit, gave up or thought they were owed a living for very little input. I also know that when someone is looking at any opportunity, it is a major life decision and its natural to have the negative stand out and stick in ones mind. But there is balance, and that is where its important to do one's own homework. How many people have you heard of invest lots and LOTS of money in a franchise opportunity and can't make it work? If you were investigaing a Subway sandwich shop, for example- you would do your homework, get the facts and look at both sides, would you not? The difference between an informed decision and a gamble is information. Quality, accurate information. I don't tell people that will happen (that its easy and they will fall into wealth)- and I am very selective with whom I choose to work with. I work very hard at my business, and I want to invest in others who have that internal burning desire to do the right thing and do whatever it takes to get what they want in their life. Its NOT easy, but it IS simple and many people from all backgrounds have found success. But bottom line, you have to WORK at it. IF that means 10 hours a week for someone- that is fine- just put in that 10 hours a week until you know what you have to know, have developed the skills you need and then you will have your success. But you need that consistency, learning, and WORK. Granted, I think it's a lot of fun for the most part! To me, it's a shame that the common mindset is that "working from home and being self employed" is somehow a guaranteed ticket to easy street. No one would EVER think starting a traditional business was! I'm not saying I don't work at what I do- I DO! I don't work lots of hours, I do use a proven system that saves me time and allows me to work smart. I am saying that I love and have passion for what I do, which is not the experience of most people I have met in this life. If someone joins my team, I work VERY hard to help them learn what they need to know and do what they need to do. I have no problems being paid for that investment I make in them- especially since they also have the product in hand. People DO quit- it breaks my heart that good people do- BUT I can't feel badly when I have genuinely put my belief, energy and effort into them. I'm lucky (or maybe not, as I choose people as much as they choose me) that I have only had one person quit so far (and my door is open if they ever decide to change their mind) and do actually have quite a large team already. You are right.. that is a better definition.. but my business model still doesn't fit into it! I joined to help answer peoples questions. That is what I DO in part, in my business! Have a look at some of my other posts- I'm all for letting people make up their own minds. Cheers Jani Teeter L3 Director,CSG |
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 Originally Posted by matiasmommy
I came to Coastal with the education I required to be successful. I applied the knowledge I have from 19 years of entrepreneurship to my business and today - I work 2-4 hours a day, 3-4 days a week. MOST successful people with coastal are putting in 6-8 hours a day. As you review information about Coastal you will find some sad stories. The reason you find them are 2 fold. MOST people are quick to blame someone else for their own success. The system didn't work, the product required 6 weeks notice before you could use it, My director left me after I got started... but what you don't see is... I GAVE UP! I didn't have a successful director to work with when I got started. I bought my membership from a distributor with my former soy candle company. My intent was to use it as an incentive and recognition program for my soy candle company. Three weeks after I got my membership, I got a call from my manufacturer that he had to go out of business for health reasons. I made a decision to get out of the business. I sough out the best websites and management tools and added the 19 years of marketing knowledge I have to the business to find the success I have today. I'm highly sought after as both a mentor with Coastal Vacations and a Marketing Coach for people in the direct sales/ network marketing industry. The CSG has been a great group of people to work with. As with ANY group of people you'll find that some are more successful than others. When you make an investment in a business you MUST look for the best of the best. I choose to have the knowledge of ALL that Coastal has to offer and subscribe to several systems. I keep in contact with the Coastal Board of Directors and attend as many training events as my schedule will allow. If your looking for SUCCESS with Coastal... I highly recommend the Coastal Synergy Group to help you get your business started. If your looking to earn multiple six figures, it WILL require a well qualified director to assist you in the process. Jay NaPier Level 3 Director/ Master Trainer Coastal Vacations P.S. - A full time director like myself willl make themselves available by phone 12 hours a day. No Gate Keeper. Limited voicemail |
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Hi Jay!
I'm also working about 4 hours a day (more in the past week as I have just started my own WEBSITE! Yipee!), but make myself available to folks from 9am EST to whenever I go to bed. Exceptions are of course, personal time- church, doctors appintments etc etc. Unlike you, I had NO real experience. A few MLM style companies- no great success but valuable learning which I have applied here as well. I'm having so MUCH FUN learning great new things (not a tech geek but this SEO and promotions stuff is a great learning challenge!), and like you I did tons of research before I got started. I'm doing the idea thing and working my way out too. One foot ahead of the other. It feels GREAT, and the response is almost overwhelming. I'm so what they call "psychologically unemployable" that it isn't even funny. I'm never going back to a J.O.B. Take that job and SHOVE it as the saying goes! =) Congrats to you for having that valuable experience and determination to do with without a great director behind you. I have less experience, but a great director. Then again, one can't negate the value of life experiences that everyone has. Those quality people that are true entrepreneurs can't be stopped nor held back- doesn't matter where they are coming from- but its very helpful to have a valuable product, great system, lots of training and personal support and mentorship. Shortens the road and makes the inevitable bumps smoother. Which is nice, if not critically necessary! It's truly a blessing to have people like yourself in the CSG- the contribution you make of your knowledge and expertise really levels the playing field so that everyone regardless of experience has resources to tap into. Everyone brings something of value to the table, and what makes this group truly unique is the fact that everyone shares and helps others. With the very large team I know you have, your time management skills must be startling! There is no way I could work personally with people the way I like to one on one and still have time with my precious daughter. I'm really committed to avoiding hosting group training forums at ALL costs.. but there is a bet as to when I am going to see the light going on with a few other directors I'm close with. I don't think they realize how stubborn I really am!! Then again, I'm open to the fact that I might have to eat my words in a year or so! I will tackle that challenge and find a new and unique way when I have to that still fits within my personal philosophy! Ouch, my head hurts just thinking about it! Tee hee! But it is really nice to see people like yourself also advocating hard (and smart!) work and due diligence. I would like to add that a well qualified director is the person that is RIGHT for YOU. After all, we all start SOMEWHERE. If you click with someone who just started a few months ago but has not yet been able to quit their full time job- follow your heart. If they are finding success by following the system and having passion- they will be quitting that J.O.B soon- and if you can learn from them how and like you need to- YOU will be quitting YOUR JOB in the near future TOO! I have worked hard as well (I don't know of anyone who hasn't that has been successful!), and I'm very proud of the results I have had to date. I think it speaks volumes for Coastal and the CSG that a single mother with a serious disability can do this TOO, and make a six figure income before her first year is done! The system WORKS! WOO HOO! Continued success to you! Jani Teeter L3 Director, CSG |
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Lots of info on this group on here and on the web, often it is not needed to start a new thread but merely research the item on already existing threads.
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-b...stal+vacations Warning: Coastal Vacations Call Center - CMG (Coastal Masters Group) Rip Off Report:Sundance Vacations A Subsidiary Of Travel Advantage Network (TAN) Vacation Time share scam use deceptive scam to lured people to their offices Hasbrouck Heights, NJ New Jersey https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-...stal+vacations And merely click on their name in the search box at the top and you will find dozens of discussions over this group |
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EXCEPT.. you have referenced CMG not CSTG- for starters.
I *don't* quite understand your bias.. but really, people have to get the right information and make up their OWN minds. This is a topic father, you are OBVIOUSLY NOT an "expert" on! Jani Teeter L3 Director, CSG |
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You should check out many of the "rip off" or "fraud" alerts on the interent, also merely check out the dozens and dozens of threads on this by doing a search at the top of this page, here are some obvious links
Lots of info on this group on here and on the web, often it is not needed to start a new thread but merely research the item on already existing threads. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-ba...stal+vacations Warning: Coastal Vacations Call Center - CMG (Coastal Masters Group) Rip Off Report:Sundance Vacations A Subsidiary Of Travel Advantage Network (TAN) Vacation Time share scam use deceptive scam to lured people to their offices Hasbrouck Heights, NJ New Jersey https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-t...stal+vacations And merely click on their name in the search box at the top and you will find dozens of discussions over this group I am sure there are some good directors, but as noted they on here say they are all independent and a association, so in the end, it appears by their statements there is no group to hold responsible if you are cheated. |
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Jani,
There are no experts on home based businesses. We all post here of our free will to help others. Of course we do see these Coastal threads all over the internet that look exactly like this one: 1. someone post a topic asking if they are legit/for real 2. a "director" shows up out of the blue and answers the question with glowing reviews urging the person to contact him/her for more info 3. person starting the thread never ever posts in another thread except to pump this group It's so obviously a setup to make fake inquiry threads and the marketing tactic stinks to high heaven. Make one wonder why Coastal must do such marketing. |
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Lots of info on this group on here and on the web, often it is not needed to start a new thread but merely research the item on already existing threads.
And yes everyone needs to look at facts and investigate any online company before doing business with them, and make sure what they are dealing with. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-ba...stal+vacations Warning: Coastal Vacations Call Center - CMG (Coastal Masters Group) Rip Off Report:Sundance Vacations A Subsidiary Of Travel Advantage Network (TAN) Vacation Time share scam use deceptive scam to lured people to their offices Hasbrouck Heights, NJ New Jersey https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-t...stal+vacations And merely click on their name in the search box at the top and you will find dozens of discussions over this group |
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OH, please do! Then everyone will be happy.. you stop mis-informing people and I have a lot less to do when straightening everyone else out.
Of course.. the people genuinely seeking answers to their valid and legitimate questions are going to suffer at the days end. Then again, there are other forums online that have knowledgeable, informed and helpful people about to help them. Jani Teeter L3 Director, CSG |
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Originally Posted by matiasmommy
Originally Posted by matiasmommy
Originally Posted by matiasmommy
What exactly are people selling if they decide they want to do this as a home business? |
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You're welcome tjdooley7 (sorry I don't know your real name). I just returned from an event extravanganza with Ellie Drake in Atlanta, GA this weekend.
If you are wondering exactly what I stand for and my ethics (this also is a true reflection for most directors in the Coastal Synergy Group) go to BraveHeart Women | Home . Success to you, Annette |
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I guess I would have to ask by people would want to be a director in a group where there is no control over over directors, ( that is what I feel we are being told) how can you choose a honest director over a dishonest one.
* that is what I get from their posts, that all of the bad fraud and all of the bad scam info is not "them" but other bad directors, and that they are not ONE COMPANY but an association of independent people. So if you are cheated by one, the group is not responsible for those actions. It would look like there has to be a actual corporation at some level who arranges, controls and makes the offers, But if it is true that there is no controlling factor and you are at the mercy of finding a honest director, that has to be scary. I would look at it this way, what if there were 100 used car lots, you get alerts and warnings about many of them. But the dealers using that same name say that is not them, ( although all of them get their cars from the same people) So if you start to go get a car, how do you know if this dealer is honest or if that dealer is not, if they all have the same name. |
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You know Karma.. I'm well aware that you are not interested in this business opportunity.. and that is OK with me. I can't help people who don't want help!
All the information however IS available on mine and many other websites online. How I run my business is well defined on my page, and I have done my best to address FAQ's etc. Its also non opt-in, which was important to me. I spent a great deal of time putting together to the best of my ability detailed information about what is in the different packages, what the cost and commission is etc etc. It would be a very looong post to put up here! I don't have a DOWNLINE.. because once people are successfully trained and released they are independent business owners and keep their own sales. If you cared to do some truly objective research, you would not be wasting time as you would then be able to see both sides of the coin and be better equipped for your role here at ask.com. We are NOT actually salespeople.. but the products we market are mainly lifetime wholesale travel club memberships. We also have the ability to be licenced and certified work from home travel agents and book individual vacations. Depending on how a person wants to run their business, that determines what market they wish to target. Not all directors want to be trainers and target the home based business arena as coaches and trainers. There are people who are in the Retail arm- they market to corporations and non profits for the most part. Originally, that was how coastal got started. At any rate.. I'm not out here to answer YOUR questions. I'm out here to help those that are seriously looking for honest answers and asking genuine and valid questions as they are considering Coastal Vacations and the Coastal Synergy Group. I don't care where they land at the end of the day, I just want to help people get what it is they came for! Jani Teeter L3 Director, CSG |
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