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    #301

    May 3, 2007, 05:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NowWhat
    Well, then I am extreme. I am offensive.
    I believe in God.
    I think you miss the point. But nevertheless it seems to be a common theme amongst religions so one should not expect yours to be different to any other. It is sad though!
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    #302

    May 3, 2007, 05:44 PM
    Okay - I retract my statement - she does it all the time. Better?
    And No, I am not going to hell. I am right with God.
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    #303

    May 3, 2007, 05:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NowWhat
    And No, I am not going to hell. I am right with God.
    Nope, my beliefs are that your type is going there directly, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
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    #304

    May 3, 2007, 05:46 PM
    I am also thanking God right now that no one can rate anyone on this thread. My Rep. would go down the drain.
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    #305

    May 3, 2007, 05:47 PM
    It'll be full of people you know - it ain't all bad!
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    #306

    May 3, 2007, 05:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Nope, my beliefs are that your type is going there directly, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
    Well, then I'll meet you there.
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    #307

    May 3, 2007, 06:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NowWhat
    Okay - I retract my statement - she does it all the time. Better?
    And No, I am not going to hell. I am right with God.
    You just don't get it do you? How did you feel when Need said he thought you were going to hell? Now put yourself in someone else's place. Even more, imagine you were a 6 year old!
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    #308

    May 3, 2007, 06:13 PM
    I don't think they understand what hell is. The way we have explained it is the worst place you could imagine.
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    #309

    May 3, 2007, 06:24 PM
    Well, you know what?

    I think you're going to be reborn as a lower life form, one that isn't tolerated by most. Like... a bug.

    THAT will teach you tolerance for your NEXT lifetime.

    After a few hundred, you'll get it pretty close to right.

    PS--Christ taught tolerance. Christ didn't teach "You'll burn in hell". It floors me that people can call themselves Christian and not do as Christ would.
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    #310

    May 3, 2007, 06:24 PM
    Also, I am secure in my faith. If someone wants to say I am going to hell - go ahead. Doesn't bother me much. I know where I am going.
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    #311

    May 3, 2007, 06:27 PM
    I don't think I have said that anyone would burn in hell.
    And, if I believe in reincarnation - it might bother me that you hope I come back as a bug. But since I don't...

    I have tolerance. But, you are jumping on me because of what I am teaching my daughter. Not what I am teaching YOUR daughter - MY daughter.
    You keep saying that religion should be taught in the home - that is what I am doing - so what gives?
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    #312

    May 3, 2007, 06:29 PM
    So they are condemning there "friends" to the worst possible place imaginable? That's kindness...

    Also, I am secure in myself. If you want to say I'm going to hell, go ahead. Doesn't bother me one bit. In fact I'm looking forward to getting there. I reckon there might be more tolerant, kind and respectful people there than in your heaven. Plus it is no secret I love the warm weather.
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    #313

    May 3, 2007, 06:31 PM
    Your also teaching her intolerance, which does affect MY daughter.

    No one is jumping on you for teaching religion. Not at all. Give me an example of that happening here please!

    You are completely missing the point.
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    #314

    May 3, 2007, 06:31 PM
    My daughter isn't going around screaming at people - YOU ARE GOING TO HELL!
    She says it in a matter of fact kind of way. Like, Oh look the sky is blue.
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    #315

    May 3, 2007, 06:33 PM
    Please tell me what the point is? I must be missing it.
    It's o.k. to teach, but don't use it? What?
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    #316

    May 3, 2007, 06:34 PM
    Doesn't matter whether she screams, sings it or farts it out her ar$e. She is still saying it.

    The point is that it isn't about you teaching your daughter religion. It is about you teaching her some tolerance and respect. And you showing some yourself! Which you aren't at all!!
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    #317

    May 3, 2007, 06:35 PM
    You know what?

    You're right. You SHOULD teach your daughter as you believe. I'm glad that you are doing so! I'm glad that you ARE teaching your daughter faith and morals.

    I (and others, it seems) am just upset that you are so caught up in your faith that you can't see that intolerance is one of the biggest problems in this country. Teaching her that someone will go to hell for not believing in Christ is great--that is what a lot of Christianity teaches. However, not teaching the right and wrong times to talk about it is bad. Would you want someone --the neighbor kid, perhaps -- to tell your daughter that there is no Santa? While at 6 you could comfort her and explain it, that would ruin something inside of her forever. Teaching that you go to hell for not believing in Christ is okay. Not teaching her that there is a time and place for talking about it is not so okay.

    However... you ARE right. It's YOUR child, and you have the right and privilege to raise her as you believe is right.
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    #318

    May 3, 2007, 06:36 PM
    I give respect when it is earned or deserved.
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    #319

    May 3, 2007, 06:40 PM
    You are right, there is a time and place for everything. I agree.
    My goal is not to teach intolerance. She has grown up in the church - for her it is like, yeah, there's a God - Duh. Who wouldn't believe that. That is all she knows. So when she asked me "How do you get into heaven?" I told her. When she asked me "why do people go to hell?" I told her.
    I don't want her to upset anyone. It is just like something that is a no brainer for her.
    We definitely do not teach her to be rude, disrespectful or intolerant.
    If that is what you think of me as a parent - you are wrong and I am sorry you got that impression.
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    #320

    May 3, 2007, 06:42 PM
    Synnen made the point perfectly!

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