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    Dec 14, 2024, 04:39 AM
    This guy is a disaster but he best represents the government under Clueless Joe.

    Alejandro Mayorkas says DHS lacks the “authority” to do anything about the NJ drone issue.

    Unidentified drones cause concern, confusion for New Jersey residents | Live Updates from Fox News Digital
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    Dec 14, 2024, 09:08 PM
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    Dec 15, 2024, 05:49 AM
    yup . I expect that to happen. In NY ;even though the Westchester Airport had to close due to drone overflights ;they are taking i phone photos and waiting for the government to act. You see how that is working .
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    Dec 15, 2024, 06:26 AM
    The amazing part of all of this is that the drones have to land at some point. You would think it would be easy enough to put a light plane up there to just follow one of them and see where it's going.
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    Dec 15, 2024, 12:23 PM
    Yeah the government has to want to track them . Much easier to do figure 8 spying over military installations and Trump's Bedminster NJ golf course with a drone than with a balloon . These drones are also big enough to carry payload .
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    Dec 16, 2024, 04:43 AM
    Flashback 2013

    The Federal Aviation Administration today announced that the Garden State will be one of several test sites from around the nation conducting research on drone aircraft with the aim of ultimately integrating them into the domestic airspace.




    In fact, the state will be playing at least two roles in these studies that could lead to a multi-billion dollar industry in commercial drone aircraft.




    First, Rutgers University will be teaming up with Virginia Tech, which the FAA named one of its six test-site operators. The two universities, which joined forces as the Mid-Atlantic Aviation Partnership, have already run drone tests in Virginia and New Jersey, according to Jon Greene, a Virginia Tech official who is the interim head of the partnership.




    "It’s not going to be a relationship where Rutgers is going to be working for us. We’re going to be working as a team," he said.
    Unmanned drones coming to N.J. skies as FAA names test sites - nj.com

    While specific test sites have yet to be determined, LoBiondo noted that part of what made New Jersey attractive include the restricted airspace above the Warren Grove section of the Pine Barrens, a bombing range for the New Jersey Air National Guard.


    The FAA Authorization Act of 2012 mandated that the drone testing program safely integrate UAS into the national airspace.

    Text - H.R.658 - 112th Congress (2011-2012): FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress


    But it is unlikely that this is government testing .

    "There's a reason why we test stuff in Area 51 or all these remote locations, so that you don't have to cause public hysteria. And then when we would test stuff in cities, we would always, whenever we do secret exercises in cities, we would always inform the local police."
    Drone experts rule out US government experiment, unsure of other New Jersey drone phenomenon theories | Fox News

    Meanwhile in New Jersey

    Drone sightings reported above NJ nuclear power plants
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    Dec 16, 2024, 05:00 AM
    So that leaves foreign sources as Gordon Chang warns
    Chang is a frequent commentator on China . He is a China national who is a critic of CCP.

    Expert issues horrifying warning about origin of mysterious drones surveying America: 'Too large, too well organized' | Daily Mail Online
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    Dec 16, 2024, 05:49 AM
    Mystery Drones Shut Down Ohio Air Force Base: 'Extreme Caution' - Newsweek

    Drone sighting temporarily shuts down runways at New York airport - ABC News
    Stewart is also home to an Air National Guard base .

    Joint Staff Addresses Drones Over New Jersey Military Installations > U.S. Department of Defense > Defense Department News

    More than a dozen drones followed a 47-foot Coast Guard boat Sunday night, while law enforcement tracked another 50 drones coming onto land from the ocean at Island Beach State Park, Rep. Chris Smith said.
    NJ drones: Congressman says 50 drones spotted offshore
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    #49

    Dec 17, 2024, 04:31 AM
    The government should come clean. The speculation because of the lack of transparency is becoming hilarious to dangerous.

    Yesterday social media was on fire because some clown in Kansas; John Ferguson, who runs a drone company made the assertion that the reason the drones are crisscrossing the Northeast in search of loose nukes that went missing during the post-Soviet period that were shipped from Ukraine to the US. He claims 80 are not accounted for. He then went on to say that this was a ploy to get us into a war with Russia.

    This was originally on TikTok, but it quickly got linked on places like Joe Rogan's X page.

    Joe Rogan on X: "This is the first video about these drones that has got me genuinely concerned." / X

    Ukraine gave up their nukes over 30 years ago. I doubt they ever had 80. But Ferguson claims he spoke to an unnamed "gentleman" who touched one of them. He claims they made it to Colorado from Ukraine and they again went missing a few years ago and that they travelled on the highways. He says the drone are equip with radiation detection sensors. Then he says the "gentleman" claims a nuke went missing from Europe and that is the one they are looking for.

    The idea that this got as much social media play as it did is incredible. Joe Rogan did a lot this election cycle to gain credibility. Posting this garbage puts him back in the tin foil hat conspiracy theorist fold.
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    Dec 17, 2024, 06:11 AM
    The story was talked up a lot because any kind of noise is preferrable to silence. The longer the feds take to clear up this mystery, the more we'll see wild stories like the one above.
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    Dec 18, 2024, 04:11 AM
    And this is dangerous . Like it or not ;drones are with us from now on. The longer the government isn't on top of this story ,the longer the fear and paranoia festers. I suspect already that most of the more recent sitings are copycat.

    What is going to happen when delivery drones from Amazon;Walmart ;and other distribution businesses services fill the skies ?

    Personal drones are now readily affordable and accessible Some of the more inexpensive versions can be had at less than $100 .One of my neighbors flies a personal drone over the neighborhood from time to time and posts the video on our Fakebook page. Ours is a new development and much of it is still in construction . This gives us a birds eye view of the progress. So far there are no paranoia neighbors taking pot shots of the drone although technically it violates privacy.

    I already gave example where the government gave contracts for drones tests in NJ . Here is one in NY that covers a 50 mile area

    New York UAS Test Site Selected for FAA UTM Field Test.. - LiDAR News

    Why the government just doesn't say that is mind boggling. It leads to belief that they are hiding something .

    “Usually when they don’t say anything it’s because the information will embarrass them in some way,” said Mark Cancian, a retired Marine Colonel who is an expert on defense and security for the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a bipartisan think tank in Washington DC.
    “It’s entirely possible that they tested UAVs [Unmanned Aerial Vehicles] out and created public hysteria, and are now embarrassed to say, ‘it was us’.”
    Security expert says Pentagon too 'embarrassed' to admit drone activity

    How many are from the government approved ? But are they all government ? They allowed balloons to do figure 8's around military sites last year. The CCP purchased land around many of our bases . Are they launching them from there ?
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    #52

    Dec 19, 2024, 03:19 PM
    FAA new drone restriction area .... nothing to see here .




    F.A.A. Bans Drone Flights Near ‘Critical Infrastructure’ in New Jersey - The New York Times


    Wish I had thought of that
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    #53

    Dec 19, 2024, 03:28 PM
    Another innovative idea might be for the feds to try and figure out who sent those drones in and for what reason?

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