[tomder55]

The election steal is on tour. It came to Virgina last week . As in other states run by a Repub administration ,Virgina has been cleaning up it's voter rolls by removing people no longer living in the state ;the dead ;and illegals who are registered .

But the Dems want the illegals in Virginia to vote. So they unleashed the DOJ on the state .

Office of Public Affairs | Justice Department Sues Virginia for Violating Federal Law’s Prohibition on Systematic Efforts to Remove Voters Within 90 Days of an Election | United States Department of Justice

The Federal law they are using says that voter rolls need to be purged by 90 days before an election.

Guv Glenn Youngkin signed an executive order in August to clean up the Va rolls. He directed the Department of Elections to make “daily updates” to the state’s voter rolls and “remove individuals who are unable to verify that they are citizens to the Department of Motor Vehicles”.

EO-35-Comprehensive-Election-Security-Ensuring-Legal-Voters-and-Accurate-Counting---vF---8.7.24.pdf (virginia.gov)


Youngkin's defense against the DOJ suit is simple . These people were illegally registered to begin with and all the State is doing is correcting an illegal act . Safeguards were put in the process to avoid removing anyone who is eligible to vote.

"Every step in the established list maintenance process is mandated by Virginia law and begins after an individual indicates they are not a citizen. The DMV is mandated by law to send information about individuals who indicate they are a noncitizen in DMV transactions to (the state elections office)," Christian Martinez, a spokesman for Youngkin, said in a statement to The Associated Press (AP). "Anyone spreading misinformation about it is either ignoring Virginia law or is trying to undermine it because they want noncitizens to vote."

Lawsuit Accuses Virginia Officials of Engaging in Illegal 'Voter Purge' - Newsweek

SCOTUS already ruled that illegals registered in Arizona can vote this election .....one state Kam the Sham can claim .

In state after state audits are finding illegals registered to vote. The Dems say aint no biggie. It is few ;rare ;and doesn't impact the final outcome. We don't know that to be true. Illegals will likely swing Arizona this election (there I go again with conspiracy theories )

DOJ goes on offense to halt voter roll cleanup (msn.com)


The non-citizen vote in Arizona 2020 was 36,000 . Clueless Joe won the state by 10,000
This year there are 218,000 non-citizens eligible to vote in the state .

Number of voters with unconfirmed citizenship documents more than doubles in battleground Arizona | AP News

The Dems are in court in 3 other states besides Virginia with similar voter registration issues. In August John Roberts led SCOTUS said the state could enforce proof of citizenship laws for voting EXCEPT for about 40,000 "federal only" registered who will vote by mail but have not provided proof of citizenship.
Supreme Court rejects Republican effort to block over 40,000 Arizona voters, but partly approves proof of citizenship law | PBS News


Everyone remembers 1920 as the year American women got the right to vote . 2024 will be remembered as the year non-citizens got that right.

[jlisenbe]

SCOTUS already ruled that illegals registered in Arizona can vote this election

I hope to live long enough to see the day when the Supreme Court is not a glaring disappointment.

It's sad that this site has boiled down to the faithful few (actually two). It used to be fun to duel with the likes of Athos and Tal. Wrong-headed and overly ideological though they were, they did at least require some minimal level of thinking to reply to their liberal points. Oh well.

[tomder55]

4 years ago we were told in no uncertain terms that illegals don't vote .....that there was "no evidence " of it ;and we were conspiracy theorists for thinking such a thing.

This year ? The Joe-Kam Justice Dept is suing Virginia for illegals right to vote. As Clueless Joe says" NO JOKE !"
Now this is what is happening in VA

In an effort to clean up the rolls they sent out a questionnaire asking if they were eligible to vote . They are only removing people from the rolls who check off a box saying they are not eligible .
But what happens if the become eligible in the next 3 weeks ? Well then they can go to the polling location and fill out a provisional ballot and all they need to provide is proof they are eligible .

So the only reason for the administration to oppose it is because they want illegals to vote.

And what is happening elsewhere in the nation ?

Already mentioned to 218,000 in Arizona
Nevada 4,000 illegals voted in 2020
Oregon 1,300
Ohio 600


oh and who else has joined the lawsuit against Va ? The League of Women voters wants illegals to vote.
Lawsuit Challenges Recent Voter Roll Purges in Virginia Preventing Eligible US citizens from Voting | League of Women Voters (lwv.org)

[jlisenbe]

[tomder55]

While the Feds are suing Virginia and Alabama to allow illegals to vote ;at least Ron DeSantis is pushing back against the administrations efforts .

Attorney General Ashley Moody is taking legal action against the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas for refusing to verify immigration records for the State of Florida to ensure voter-roll integrity,

Attorney General Moody Takes Legal Action Against DHS to Ensure Voting Integrity in Florida | My Florida Legal

Florida has “identified registered voters who may not be U.S. citizens, and DHS refuses to provide information necessary to determine their immigration status. "......“Because the federal government is refusing to comply with these obligations and frustrating Florida’s ability to maintain the integrity of its elections, Florida files this suit,”

[jlisenbe]

I am liking DeSantis more and more as time goes by. I still think it was a mistake to nominate Trump over the Florida gov.

[tomder55]

Georgia Supreme court blocked new election laws that would've prevented a 2020 type steal .

Georgia Supreme Court rejects Republican attempt to reinstate invalidated election rules | AP News

This ruling came on the eve of early voting in the state (count and recount until you get the results you want)
If Fani Willis had kept her nose clear she probably would already have Trump locked up or in court instead of on the campaign trail.

Nathan Wade already admitted to the House that he consulted with the White House about the Trump prosecution.

[tomder55]

SCOTUS ruled today in favor of allowing Virginia to purge illegal voters from their rolls .

The 3 lib justices said they would allow the illegals to vote

[tomder55]

I was sure that the elections results this year were as they say "too big to rig " . Sad to say that is not the case nationwide.

I'm sure there are other races still undecided that may have a rigged factor involve. But here is the major one that is ongoing ;the election for Senator in Pennsylvania.

GOP candidate Dave McCormick won . Make no mistake about it . BUT Dem Bob Casey refuses to concede .


Now a recount is happening and this is where the steal could take place .


Bucks County ;a suburb of Philadelphia ;is one of the "collar county" swing counties in the state . It's election commission is controlled by the Dems.

They voted 2-1 to count misdated and undated uncounted ballots in direct violation of a state Supreme court decision.

Count and count again until you get the results you want is the Dem playbook .

GOP alleges Bucks County counted 400 ballots it should have rejected

[jlisenbe]

Count and count again until you get the results you want is the Dem playbook

Exactly correct. The repubs will have two years to investigate this.

[tomder55]

It will cost the state $2 million to recount. Casey could emerge as the victor if he got the vast majority of the provisional ballots. But in a fair recount ;that is highly unlikely.

Schmucky was going to exclude McCormick from the traditional orientation of new Senators . But he received backlash from Senators of both parties. It appears McCormick already has bipartisan support . There are Dems in the state privately urging Casey to concede . Guv Josh Shapiro has not. As a future Dem contender for the Presidency he should show leadership and tell Casey it is irresponsible to waste taxpayer money in a futile gesture.

[tomder55]

Wow even the Compost is calling out the Pennsylvania Dems.

Opinion | Pennsylvania Democrats should not defy the state Supreme Court - The Washington Post

Before the Nov. 5 election, Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court ruled that provisional ballots must be signed in two required places and that mail-in votes must be dated. Yet elected Democratic officials in Philadelphia and three other counties — Bucks, Centre and Montgomery — voted this week to defy these and other court decisions at the request of lawyers for Democratic Sen. Bob Casey, who trails GOP challenger Dave McCormick by about 24,000 votes, with almost all of the roughly 7 million ballots cast having been counted. These Democrats’ decisions will almost certainly be overturned on appeal, but the mere attempt to defy judicial rulings is corrosive to democracy and invites similar behavior in future elections.

In a stunning admission ,the Bucks County commissioner admits she knows she is defying a court order but is proceeding with the illegal recounts anyway.

Bucks County Commissioner Diane Ellis-Marseglia, a Democrat, offered this breathtaking rationalization on Thursday: “I think we all know that precedent by a court doesn’t matter anymore in this country,” she said, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer. “People violate laws anytime they want. So, for me, if I violate this law, it’s because I want a court to pay attention. There’s nothing more important than counting votes.”

[jlisenbe]

“I think we all know that precedent by a court doesn’t matter anymore in this country,” she said, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer. “People violate laws anytime they want. So, for me, if I violate this law, it’s because I want a court to pay attention. There’s nothing more important than counting votes.”

What a convoluted rationale for violating the law. First of all, "we all" actually do know that going against a clear court mandate DOES matter. Secondly, you have a government official here stating that she is violating the law and that, in her view, people do so "anytime they want." Amazingly, I doubt that anything will be done about it. So much for the rule of law. It all certainly makes Trump's protest in 2020 look a great deal more believable.

[tomder55]

Still waiting for them to "find " ballots in car trunks ;or closets ;or under tables that they "forgot " to count.


Pennsylvania's top court strikes down Dem bid to count illegal ballots as Sen. Bob Casey refuses to concede

“SHALL COMPLY with the prior rulings of this Court in which we have clarified that mail-in and absentee ballots that fail to comply with the requirements of the Pennsylvania Election Code . . . SHALL NOT BE COUNTED” (capitalization in original).“Pa. Supreme Court again rules that Philly and other counties cannot count undated mail ballots; The ruling comes after several Philly-area counties defied the court’s previous guidance; The issue has come under close scrutiny as the race between Bob Casey and Dave McCormick undergoes a recount” - Election Law Blog


Justice David Wecht, a liberal wrote in concurrence;


“It is critical to the rule of law that individual counties and municipalities and their elected and appointed officials, like any other parties, obey orders of this Court. As Justice Felix Frankfurter once wrote: ‘If one man can be allowed to determine for himself what is law, every man can. That means first chaos, then tyranny. … The greater the power that defies law the less tolerant can this Court be of defiance.’”

But when you can say that a court decision can be ignored at will then you can pretty much do whatever you want .


When AP called the race for McCormick He had a 30,000 lead. The counting of provisional ballots whittled it down to around 18,000 . The only way to bring Casey over the top is counting illegal ballots or "finding" them.