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    Jul 15, 2024, 05:40 AM
    There is no end to the lying. It was comically ironic to read of Biden calling for national unity after leading, for years, the chorus of shrill accusations of Trump being Hitler, threatening an end to democracy, putting black people in chains, being a closet facist, and other popular numbers all intended, we are now to believe, to bring about unity?
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    Jul 15, 2024, 05:52 AM
    He has a history of divisive politics going back at least to his days of Clarence Thomas' confirmation hearings and probably before . As far as I can tell Joe has always been a race baiter .

    Any doubt of his nature should be put to rest with both his Independence Hall speech and this years SOTU address . He put a "bulls eye" on Trump and his constituents .
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    Jul 15, 2024, 12:12 PM
    While this site, rather miraculously, is working, I thought I'd mention that it seems the powers that be are content to let it die a slow, agonizing death. It is becoming more and more difficult just to get to the homepage. Too bad.
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    Jul 15, 2024, 10:40 PM
    Secret Service had the shooter under surveillance for more than 20 minutes . The incompetence of Clueless Joe's administration is staggering .
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    Jul 16, 2024, 04:29 AM
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    Jul 16, 2024, 04:49 AM
    Trump started a GoFundme for the victims killed and wounded of Saturday's shooting . So far it is almost $5 million .

    Fundraiser by Meredith ORourke : Support For Butler PA Victims - President Trump Authorized (gofundme.com)
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    Jul 16, 2024, 04:56 AM
    “When you keep saying that ‘America will be literally destroyed, this will be the last election, Donald Trump is the worst person who has ever lived and he must be stopped,’ someone is going to take that seriously and think to themselves ‘shouldn’t I do something to stop Hitler?’”
    ‘Are You Effing Kidding Me’: Ben Shapiro Berates Media For Rhetoric Before And After Attempted Trump Assassination (dailywire.com)
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    Jul 16, 2024, 05:26 AM
    We'll see if that over the top rhetoric cools down. I imagine some of it will, at least for a few days.
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    #29

    Jul 16, 2024, 09:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Not only did I read your post, I quoted it. "Watch his face, listen to his gibberish, so bombastic. If your spouse acted and talked like Trump, you'd be filing for divorce -- or never would have married. My BIL is like Trump. We take him with a grain of salt and avoid close encounters."
    Not the first paragraph in my post. The second one!!!

    "And no, Biden does not thrill me. I wish two (handsome) younger men would be running for president!"
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    #30

    Jul 16, 2024, 09:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Secret Service had the shooter under surveillance for more than 20 minutes . The incompetence of Clueless Joe's administration is staggering .
    Trump's SS crew (instructed and paid to make sure the shooter wasn't taken alive).
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    Jul 16, 2024, 01:00 PM
    Not the first paragraph in my post. The second one!!!

    "And no, Biden does not thrill me. I wish two (handsome) younger men would be running for president!"
    How does the second paragraph make the first hateful paragraph any less hateful?

    Trump's SS crew (instructed and paid to make sure the shooter wasn't taken alive).
    Do you understand that the SS group assigned to Trump is still under the authority of Kimberly A. Cheatle, appointed by the Biden admin?
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    #32

    Jul 16, 2024, 01:01 PM
    Don't want to get into conspiracy theories although it is easy to do with all the CYA going on. But as inept as Joe's team has been it is implausible to believe that they would get some kid who can't hit the side of a barn at 130 yd to be their hitman. Certainly not when Iranian assassins were available .
    US knew of potential Iranian assassination plot against Trump weeks before deadly shooting (nypost.com)

    Why there was lax security knowing an international plot was underway is anyone's guess
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    #33

    Jul 17, 2024, 04:48 AM
    Either the security was guilty of incredibly foolish mistakes, or some person/group was wanting to see Trump dead. I don't see any other options. It certainly was not the result of an amazingly skilled and clever assassin at work.
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    #34

    Jul 17, 2024, 05:25 AM
    The director of the Secret Service stated yesterday that they did not have personnel on the roof where the shooter ended up being because it was a "sloped roof". Really? I'm 71 years old and I would be able to navigate around on that roof with no trouble whatsoever. She is the kind of inept hire that gives DEI a well-deserved bad name.

    So the sloped roof was too dangerous to stand on? You mean like these guys are casually doing?

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    Jul 17, 2024, 06:51 AM
    Not only that ;local cops were stationed inside the building . That is a metal roof . They did not hear a sniper going up and down a ladder a couple of times ?

    Or how about the claim about the threat of an Iranian assassin ? You would think that would warrant more security ;not mall rent a cops .
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    #36

    Jul 17, 2024, 07:22 AM
    It's all very suspicious. It is hard to imagine how any even semi-competent person could have known about the threats of Iranian assassins and yet not even bother to secure a rooftop in prime shooting range from Mr. Trump because it has a GENTLE slope to the roof? How stupid can that lady possibly be?
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    #37

    Jul 17, 2024, 07:26 AM
    and the threat to Trump has been continuous since January 2020 when IRGC boss Qasem Soleimani got a drone missile up his a$$ . As recent as March there were threats against Trump Pompeo and Bolton.
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    #38

    Jul 21, 2024, 04:22 PM
    The latest craze by MLB players has been when they get a hit ;they grab their ear ;raise their fist and do fist pumps shouting "fight fight fight " !!

    Paul A. Szypula 🇺🇸 on X: "MLB players are now using President Trump’s “fight!” fist that he displayed on J13 as a celebration of perseverance. Trump has inspired America. Next he’ll save it. https://t.co/V9X0CpelN3" / X
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    #39

    Jul 21, 2024, 08:05 PM
    If Trump wins, he might very well look back on the assassination attempt as the turning point.
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    Jul 22, 2024, 02:56 AM
    All he has to do is stick to policy differences . Most of the nation knows that inflation hurts ;that open borders is a bad idea ;and know the answer when asked how to identify a woman . Most of the nation doesn't want to be taxed to subsidize fantasies like the green new steal .

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