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    Jun 22, 2024, 06:14 AM
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    Jun 25, 2024, 03:56 AM
    You can't make it up. Trump campaign spokesperson Karoline Leavitt went on CNN with host Kasie Hunt to note how unfair CNNs coverage of Trump has been historically ;especially debate moderators Jake Tapper and Dana Bash .

    Hunt made the case for Leavitt when she cut her off and abruptly ended the interview.

    CNN's Kasie Hunt Ends Interview with Trump Spokesperson | The View (youtube.com)


    Can't possibly figure what her complaint about Tapper would be.

    End Wokeness on X: "Oh look, debate moderator Jake Tapper repeatedly comparing Trump to HitIer. I'm sure this debate will be 100% fair. https://t.co/isshrBs72G" / X
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    Jun 25, 2024, 05:15 AM
    Dr Ron Jackson was WH physician for GW Bush ;the emperor ;and Trump. He came out in favor of drugs tests for Joe ;before and after the debate .
    Clueless Joe is clearly jacked up and doped before public appearances.

    He sent the letter to WH physician Kevin O'Connor ;and CC'd the cabinet and Kam the Sham.
    06_24_24_final_signed_letter_to_biden.pdf (house.gov)


    Here is his conversation with Maria Bartiromo .

    Former White House physician demands drug, cognitive test from Biden | Fox News Video

    But I'm going to be demanding on behalf of many millions of concerned Americans right now that he submit to a drug test before and after this debate, specifically looking for performance-enhancing drugs, because we see -- we have seen recently in his State of the Union address that there was a Joe Biden that came out that was not similar at all to what we see on a day-to-day basis for the last 3.5 years.
    And there's just really no way to explain that, other than he was on something, that they'd given him medications. I feel like this is probably what's going on over this week at Camp David. He's going to be at Camp David for a full week before the debate. Part of that is probably experimenting with just getting the doses just right, because they have to treat his cognition.
    They have to give him something to help him think straighter. They have to give him something to wake him up to -- for his alertness. And then he's been agitated. We see that all the time. And that's a common -- that's a common symptom or sign of this cognitive disorder that he seems to be suffering from.
    And so they're probably going to give him something to take the edge off that as well. They didn't get it right just last time at the State of the Union. He came out. He was obviously much more alert, but he was a yelling, angry old man. And he still didn't make a lot of sense.
    So I think they have got an uphill battle here, but I think that they're going to have to do something to try to wake him up and make him perform a little better during the debate. And I don't think that that's what the American people want out of their president. I think they want somebody that can do this on their own.
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    Jun 26, 2024, 06:15 AM
    Evita is now a debate analyst . Hillary-ous !!!

    Hillary Clinton: I’ve Debated Trump and Biden. Here’s What I’m Watching For. – DNyuz

    Having lost debates to both she brings an certain expertise to the table.
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    Jun 26, 2024, 06:28 AM
    In the meantime, in the interests of proving that he seem incapable of learning from his past failures, Trump seems to be doing but very little in the way of preparation. He has been given some great advice, but will he accept it? Doubtful.

    “If I were President Trump, I would talk about right track, wrong track,” Republican Sen. Lindsay Graham told The Hill. “I don’t think he needs to be overly aggressive.”
    The only person who can defeat Trump in this election is...Trump.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...n/74191301007/
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    Jun 26, 2024, 06:39 AM
    Even worse can be found here.
    Donald Trump told Newsmax on Tuesday night he doesn't need to lock himself in a room with advisers to prepare for Thursday night's huge debate with President Joe Biden, the first presidential debate this election cycle and the earliest in U.S. history."I've been preparing for it for my whole life, if you want to know the truth," Trump told "Prime News" and guest host Corey Lewandowski. "And I'm not sure you can lock yourself in a room for two weeks, or one week, or two days, and really learn what you have to know.
    https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/d...r=010504xji26h
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    Jun 26, 2024, 08:12 AM
    I hear Joe's team made a mock stage /studio set and he has 18 people coaching him. No doubt CNN has already provided him with the questions they will ask.

    to Trump " do you still think the election was stolen ? Will you leave office if elected or declare yourself dictator as DeNiro claimed ?

    to Joe "what is your favorite flavor of ice cream "?
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    Jun 26, 2024, 01:25 PM
    So what will Joe say when the question about 51 FORMER Intel officials claiming that Hunter's laptop news was Russian propaganda ;in light of the new reports that several of those intel guys were contractors for the CIA at the time of the letter ?

    Two Biden laptop letter signers were CIA contractors, agency brass knew of effort | Just The News
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    Jun 26, 2024, 01:41 PM
    So what will Joe say when the question about 51 FORMER Intel officials claiming that Hunter's laptop news was Russian propaganda ;in light of the new reports that several of those intel guys were contractors for the CIA at the time of the letter ?
    If Trump was smart enough to believe in preparation, he would raise the issue himself. Sadly, I don't expect that to happen. But the softball questions to Biden from CNN can certainly be expected, as can the hardball questions for Trump. And again, if he would prepare and be ready for that, then he could turn it to his advantage.
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    Jun 26, 2024, 02:17 PM
    Trump's preparation is to make rambling speeches at rallies about electric powered boats and sharks .

    Trump's Shark Rant �� - Las Vegas Rally | #blux (youtube.com)

    So when the Dems counter that Trump is losing it too . That is what they mean
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    Jun 27, 2024, 02:27 AM
    I know where I stand on the issues . I know where I stand on the candidates. This is unique in that we have 2 candidates with records in the White House.

    Tonight I watch this debates as if I were a casual viewer of a NASCAR race.......waiting for the crash.
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    Jun 27, 2024, 03:47 AM
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    Jun 27, 2024, 11:31 AM
    if you must play debate bingo here is your card



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    Jun 27, 2024, 01:39 PM
    I know where I stand on the issues . I know where I stand on the candidates.
    As do I. I can't imagine the circumstances under which I would vote for Biden. But as I have tried (without success) to point out to my FB friends, it's the middle third that Trump needs to win over, and he cannot be the same ole same ole and do that as well as he should. I think he will win this election, but considering who he's running against, it won't be much to crow about. It will be on the same level as the Green Bay Packers beating a high school team.
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    Jun 28, 2024, 03:07 AM
    The whole night I kept asking myself ;'how would've Ron DeSantis answered that question '?

    The President's poor showing only masks how lame Trump was .
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    Jun 28, 2024, 04:32 AM
    As for the substance ;I could spend hours disputing the things both candidates said.

    I'll do one that I thought was a blatant lie that Joe kept repeating.

    He got a hat tip from Tapper who cited a study from 'Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget ' that said that Trump approved $8.4 trillion of new borrowing, while Joe added only $4.3 trillion.
    Trump and Biden: Tax and Spending Changes-2024-06-27 (crfb.org)

    Allysia Finley of the WSJ editorial board gives the relevant reply since Trump's answers were unclear .

    The study inflates the cost of Mr. Trump’s tax cuts—including bipartisan efforts that repealed the Affordable Care Act’s medical device and Cadillac insurance taxes—while low-balling the costs of Mr. Biden’s spending increases and regulations. For example, the study dings Mr. Trump for adding to the debt by ending certain Affordable Care Act cost subsidies, which it says caused insurers to raise premiums and thereby increased other insurance subsidies.

    The outfit says Mr. Trump added to the deficit with a 2020 rule that restricted drug-maker rebates in Medicare, though that rule never took effect. Then the study claims that Mr. Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act reduced the national debt by delaying the same rebate rule and increasing IRS funding.
    All of which is to say that the figures cited by Mr. Tapper include subjective judgments that are biased in favor of Mr. Biden. But for the record, the national debt increased by $2.6 trillion during Mr. Trump’s first three years before Covid and $5.2 trillion during Mr. Biden’s first three.
    Who Won the Trump-Biden Debate? - WSJ


    The claims are further debunked by the Congressional Budget Committee.

    FACT CHECK ALERT: Debunking CRFB’s Analysis of Trump and Biden Impacts on the National Debt | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee


    Let's face facts . Even given for spending related to the pandemic ; both increased the debt to unacceptable levels . Both believe in big government spending. The difference is a matter of degrees and for what purpose.
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    Jun 28, 2024, 05:19 AM
    The President's poor showing only masks how lame Trump was
    Wife and I could only bring ourselves to watch about twenty minutes of the "debate". It was like watching two middle schoolers going at it about which of them looked better. I actually thought Biden did a little better than I expected, but he did look old and feeble. Trump was the usual collection of rants and ravings which had very little appearance of being well thought-out replies. I kept waiting for him (either of them, really) to lay out a vision of a better America. Neither did so.
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    Jun 28, 2024, 05:31 AM
    Read my commentary on the debate "Where do we go from here ?"

    The President's booster shot started to take effect . But he was still an incoherent rambling too old for his job. By the time of his closing statement he was spent .

    Biden doubles down on need for fair tax system during closing statement of presidential debate - YouTube
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    Jun 28, 2024, 06:24 AM
    I'm always amused by these calls for a fair tax system. As I've shown here many times, the wealthy already basically pay 80% or so of income taxes. They pay practically all of inheritance taxes. The bottom half of income earners pay next to nothing in income tax, so how much fairer do they want it to be? It is nothing more than a liberal talking point based on an outright lie.

    How happy should we be that the feds supposedly reduced the debt by 160 bil over ten years? That amounts to about 1/2 of 1% of the total, and does not take into account the trillions of dollars they have added to the debt. Pols have clearly concluded that the American people are too stupid to see through this. Maybe they're right.
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    Jun 28, 2024, 08:36 AM
    It now seems likely that Biden will do one of two things. He will pull out of the race and allow Michelle, Newsome, Hillary, or whoever to step in. He might also get Harris to step aside, put in one of the above as VP, and then offer up the likelihood that he would resign at some point in 2025.

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