[tomder55]

This week a terror cell was broken up inside the US
The headlines read a terror cell of 8 ISIS K jihadists from Tajikistan were arrested in 3 US cities .

8 suspected terrorists with possible ISIS ties arrested in New York, L.A. and Philadelphia, sources say (nbcnews.com)

If you are unfamiliar with ISIS K ;they are the group that mass murdered 137 at a Russian concert.

Who are ISIS-K, the group linked to the Moscow concert hall terror attack? | CNN

But how did they get into the US ? They illegally walked across the border ;were processed and released

The targets had all crossed the southern border and initial vetting by federal authorities didn’t turn up any negative information tied to their names, Fox News reported.
At least two of the men had crossed into the US in spring 2023, and one had used the CBP One app to enter, according to NBC’s sources.
The arrests come after warnings from FBI Director Chris Wray about possible ISIS terror plots being staged on US soil and the group’s potential for exploiting the southern border.

Six suspected terrorists with ISIS ties arrested in sting operation (nypost.com)

Not that processing was that effective to begin with ;but while the compliant press reported that Clueless Joe was going to get tough on illegal immigration (apparently meaning that we will get tough if illegal immigration exceeds 2 million/year); in his order was the suspension of asylum processing. So much for getting tough on illegal immigration.

Some nationalities escape Biden's sweeping asylum ban because deportation flights are scarce - ABC News (go.com)

[jlisenbe]

All of which was completely predictable. We can't get this pres out of office soon enough.

[Wondergirl]

And what did Trump do to stop illegal inmmigration (by building a border wall)?

[tomder55]

For one thing he did not invite them in as a policy on his 1st day in office. He built sections of the wall and had more ready to assemble that Joe is now selling off as scrap for pennies on the dollar or letting rust on the desert floor
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Trump’s Big Border Wall Is Now a Pile of Rusting Steel - The Atlantic


He held them in Mexico waiting for processing rather than Joe's alleged processing and then releasing them with a court appearance date to be ignored . Trump had a zero tolerance policy where there was deportation if caught .

Federal government will end “remain in Mexico” policy for asylum-seekers | The Texas Tribune

He followed through with his campaign promises despite the Dems deliberate effort to sabotage it through court action and regulatory delays . He completed 458 miles of new border wall despite the Dem efforts to stop him .

Trump set a rational merit based prioritization. Clueless prefers people who will tax the social welfare system in a classic Cloward Piven move.

Trump promoted a logical family centered immigration program . Jan 2018 Trump proposed the legalization of all Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients .This would end chain migration and would've ended the idea that military age males from nations hostile to the US from invading across the border . Chances are those ISIS K terrorists would not have been in a position to invade .

He would've ended birth tourism given a chance . The Chinese send pregnant women to the US to give birth. Their children born here are American citizens by birth.

And that is all I can think of off of the top of my head .

[tomder55]

Rachel Morin was raped and murdered by a man who illegally crossed the border .

He left El Salvador after previously murdering a woman there a month before .

This is on Joe and the Dems and the Dems and their open border policy .

[jlisenbe]

And what did Trump do to stop illegal inmmigration

Question asked and very well answered. I only wonder if it made any impact.

If Trump had been reelected, one can only wonder how much of the wall would be finished. It would no doubt be extending several hundred miles by now. It would have saved countless lives.

[Wondergirl]

Trump’s administration built only 52 miles of new primary border barriers.

[jlisenbe]

Biden admin has built...zero miles and done nothing at all to stem the avalanche of illegals. By doing nothing he apparently has won your support along with him allowing a tidal wave of fentanyl and human trafficking.

Oh well.

[tomder55]

Wrong ........that lie is built on the fact that Trump replaced many sections of the border that had broken down fencing with a permanent new wall in addition to new sections .

I know how the Enviromental Impact Statement ;adverse impact requirement game is played having been an activist in opposing a project. Projects can be tied up for years ;and costs added to them by identifying an endangers critter like a timber rattle snake or a spotted newt that would be negatively impacted by a project. Every objection has to be addressed and probably mitigated.

Major projects that used to take months to complete now take years and decades. The idea that a border wall could be completed in a short few years was a fantasy.
For Trump to complete as much as he did in his short time was a major accomplishment given the opposition to it from the legislative branch and the regulatory restraints .

[Wondergirl]

Wrong ........that lie is built on the fact that Trump replaced many sections of the border that had broken down fencing with a permanent new wall in addition to new sections .

• The Trump administration built 458 total miles of primary and secondary border barriers, U.S. Customs and Border Protection data shows. The majority were replacements of smaller, dilapidated barriers.
• Replacement barriers and secondary barriers that are behind primary barriers don’t add additional miles to the southern border’s total coverage.

The amount of new wall is about 10 times smaller than Trump’s count.
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ald-trump-bui/

[jlisenbe]

I have no idea what point you are trying to make. Your article was investigating whether the Trump administration “built nearly 500 miles of border wall.” If you are suggesting that Trump lied in referring to 500 miles of border fencing, then even your own article does not agree with you. It concluded, "How many miles of border wall did Donald Trump build? It depends on how it’s counted." The article goes on to say that he did, indeed, build 500 miles of fencing. Most of it was not over unfenced ground, but that's not what Trump said to begin with. It makes me wonder who is really the one trying to be deceptive here.

It's also strange that you seem to be criticizing Trump for building only 50 miles of new border wall when the guy you support, Mr. Biden, has done zilch other than to throw the border open to illegal drugs and human trafficking which you seem to care nothing about since you never comment on it. I always find it rather puzzling that liberals, who forever want to claim ownership of the moral high ground in their concern for people, can support a man who allows such horrors to go on unimpeded. What on earth are you thinking?

It just looks like an extreme case of Trump hatred.

[tomder55]

What part of this was incorrect ?


Trump replaced many sections of the border that had broken down fencing with a permanent new wall in addition to new sections .

[Wondergirl]

Trump didn't built a wall as was promised. How many miles long is the southern border? 458 miles plus how many more? What about securing the waterways on the east and on the west?

[jlisenbe]

Trump didn't built a wall as was promised. How many miles long is the southern border? 458 miles plus how many more? What about securing the waterways on the east and on the west?

Why not, instead of changing the topic, just answering the question?

What part of this was incorrect ?

Trump replaced many sections of the border that had broken down fencing with a permanent new wall in addition to new sections .

[Wondergirl]

Trump didn't build a wall to keep illegals out. He rebuilt broken-down "walls" and added a bit more new wall of his own. Those illegals continue to pour into the US by going around the "wall".

[jlisenbe]

Trump didn't build a wall to keep illegals out. He rebuilt broken-down "walls"

And thus made 450 or so miles of existing fence far more effective than it had been.

and added a bit more new wall of his own.

Yes. It was about fifty miles of entirely new fencing, which is about 50 miles more than Biden.

Those illegals continue to pour into the US by going around the "wall".

Illegal immigration has increased greatly with the Biden admin.

[Wondergirl]

Illegal immigration has increased greatly with the Biden admin.

Trump's "wall" certainly isn't stopping anyone!

[jlisenbe]

Trump's "wall" certainly isn't stopping anyone!

But isn't it strange how much more effective that wall and other measures were under Trump? Do you have an explanation for that??? I think we both know the explanation.

Finish the wall.

[Wondergirl]

But isn't it strange how much more effective that wall and other measures were under Trump? Do you have an explanation for that??? I think we both know the explanation.

Finish the wall.

Trump's wall was a boondoggle (a wasteful or impractical project or activity).

[jlisenbe]

Thanks to Trump, we have about five hundred miles of border wall with either a greatly repaired wall or a wall where none was before. Scarcely any illegal immigration occurs along those five hundred miles as compared with the other 1500 miles which Biden has done NOTHING with other than to drop the measures Trump had implemented. So it's now a "come as you are" party on the southern border.

You really need something more to base your analysis on other than the "I hate Donald Trump" approach.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/10/29/...-and-smugglers