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    Feb 10, 2024, 04:35 PM
    Dem elder abuse
    Special Council Hur was able to review notes taken by a ghost writer in 2017 for Quid Pro Joe's book (Mark Zwonitzer collaborated with Quid on his memoir 'Promise Me, Dad'.)


    If you read Hur's report then you know that Quid knew he had classified documents in his home at the time of meetings with the book writer .
    The notes reveal something else also.
    According to Hur Zwonitzer wrote that Quid was “painfully slow,” with ” limited precision and recall.” That he struggled to remember events and straining at times to read and relay his own notebook entries.

    This was 3 years before the 2020 election.

    [Zwonitzer deleted some tape evidence too that Hur decided to give him a pass on .But that is another discussion.]

    The main point is that everyone around Quid ; his wife Jill ; all his aides ;the whole swamp leadership knew Quid was in mental decline . I'm betting Jame Clyburn ;who singlehandedly got Quid the nomination knew

    They were so afraid that Bolshevik Bernie would get the nomination that they fielded a mentally challenged candidate . Then they hid Quid in the basement . To this day that is how they handle his Presidency They hide him whenever they can ;and have a spin machine ready for his many screw ups .
    Shame on them.
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    Feb 11, 2024, 08:21 AM
    The question must be asked ..............
    Is the man; who a Dem appointed prosecutor claims is too mentally incompetent to stand trial , competent enough to properly handle and deal with classified documents ;and hold nuclear codes /have his finger on the trigger ?
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    Feb 12, 2024, 05:26 AM
    Remember when they made fun of how Trump stored documents at Mar a Lago ? Here is one of the many photos of Quid's document handling . This is in his garage


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    Feb 12, 2024, 05:43 AM
    Remember when the Dems said of Trump 'no one is above the law ' ?
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    Feb 12, 2024, 06:15 AM
    It's not a good indicator of where we are as a country. That JB is guilty is as clear as the fact that HC was guilty, and yet neither will be prosecuted. DT is in court largely because of political considerations. It's not a good look at all.
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    Feb 13, 2024, 05:46 AM
    and here is your morning laugh

    Karine Jean-Pierre Quotes FLOTUS In Defense Of Biden’s Age: ‘His Age… Is An Incredible Asset’ (youtube.com)
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    Feb 13, 2024, 06:18 AM
    Nothing like appealing to a totally unbiased source! If this pres really does accomplish more in one hour that most people do in a day, then there is very little getting done in America. The outrage is that the entire press room did not break out in unrestrained laughter at such a preposterous statement.
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    Feb 13, 2024, 03:08 PM
    West Virginia AG is urging VP Harris to deem JB mentally unfit to continue as pres and step in to replace him. Of course that raises the question of how mentally fit is she?
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    Feb 13, 2024, 06:16 PM
    It is not up to her. Not by herself anyway . It is a complicated process that will cause another constitutional crisis

    Here is sec 4 of the 25th

    Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

    So Kam the Sham and a majority of the boot licking sycophants in the cabinet would have to declare him mentally incompetent

    But Quid could challenge ;and he would resume his Presidency unless Kam the Sham and the toady cabinet again says he is incompetent . That part could take up to 4 days of Quid running the country .

    If they still say he is fruit loops Kam would temporarily assume the Presidency .

    It would then be up to Congress (both Houses ) to decide . If so then Congress has 21 days to play pocket pool . They would need to vote by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.

    You know that 's never going to happen


    Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
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    Feb 13, 2024, 08:04 PM
    Yep. You are right. Great post.
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    Feb 14, 2024, 07:29 AM
    The problem with Clueless Joe is not age. Kissinger had a sharp mind up until his death at the age of 100. It is his mind . He has a bad memory it is said , But his memory serves him well enough.
    He remember putting Corn Pop in his place at the pool.

    Joe Biden "Corn Pop" Story FULL Segment (youtube.com)


    He remembers that he did not go to the Naval Academy because Roger Staubach was the QB . So Clueless went to Delaware instead.( Yeah he actually said that )

    Biden Claims He Applied To Naval Academy In 1965 … That Date Makes His Story Impossible (youtube.com)

    He remembers that his son Beau died in Iraq.

    He remembers how he attended Black churches every weekend

    Members of black Delaware church don't recall Biden being 'raised' there (nypost.com)


    There are others . But you get the point .
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    Mar 12, 2024, 01:59 PM
    Hur testified to Congress. He said that Quid illegally had documents in his possession that he took while he was a Senator from a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF ) when he was a Senator .
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    Mar 12, 2024, 02:16 PM
    Hur testified to Congress. He said that Quid illegally had documents in his possession that he took while he was a Senator from a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF )
    Good thing his last name is not spelled T-R-U-M-P. He'd be in four different courts by now.

    One can only wonder how anyone can read this information and come away with the impression that Biden is basically an honest man.
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    Mar 12, 2024, 03:12 PM
    He wasn't senile then either
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    Mar 12, 2024, 03:52 PM
    If Lincoln's old adage about liars needing to have a good memory is true, then Mr. Biden might be in serious trouble.
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    Mar 12, 2024, 10:33 PM
    Hur also gave an $8 million motive for Quid stealing the docs. Quid was going to write a book. The Hur reports cites incidents when Quid told his ghost writer that there were CLASSIFED DOCS in his house that the writer could view for reference.
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    Mar 17, 2024, 04:05 AM
    I was amused to see Congressional Dems hammering Hur . They said that Hur's conclusion that Quid was a senile old fart was politically motivated .

    Let's forget for a second that he said that if Quid was halfway lucid ,that he probably had enough goods on Quid to charge him.

    The reality is that no matter what Hur wrote into his report there was no obligation for the report to be released . That was totally up to AG Garland.

    Garland could've not released it at all .He could've redacted the part about Quid's declining mental state . He could've ordered Hur to remove that section from the report .

    He did none of that . Instead of their faux outrage ,Congressional Dems should have hauled Garland up to Capitol Hill to ask the AG why was it allowed to go public?

    They bellyache that Hur is some MAGA holdover . Wrong. Garland appointed him . No one told Garland to do so. Hur was put in an impossible position. He must have had marching orders to not charge Quid. So he did the next best thing . He spelled out that what Quid has been doing for 15 years is a crime . He then found a way to follow orders .
    So again the question is why was the report released as it was ? ?

    I have some unprovable thoughts. The puppet master (aka the emperor) wants to plow the field and make way for his hand picked replacement (aka Madam Defarge Obama) . Garland is the convenient intermediary who owes the emperor . Let's not forget that the emperor wanted Garland to be in SCOTUS . Oh what mischief he could've wrought ! Instead he was given the one role in the administration where he is semi-independent of Quid's decisions .

    In doing this he made sure he was one step removed when applying the Comey doctrine . ("no reasonable prosecutor would charge" ) Comey put the burden on himself . The weasel Garland can take a hands off approach and say it was Hur's call . But it never was.
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    May 17, 2024, 05:07 AM
    Congress wants to know why if both Trump and Quid allegedly illegally retained documents then why is only Trump being charged .

    As noted above Prosecutor Robert Hur contended that Quid was a feeble senile old fart that a jury would find too pathetic to convict .

    Congress is asking for proof . They want the tape of the meeting between Hur and Quid.

    Now you would think that the Dems would want the proof revealed before the election . Quid was sure po'ed over the contention . Every Dem that has contact with him claims he is lucid . Indeed he gives that impression in public appearances when they have to foresight to give him some Kickapoo joy juice before unleashing him.

    You would think the public seeing the proof would end the discussion ( then again ;if he is able to stand trial the question remains ;why Trump and not Quid? )

    Under pressure the WH released the so called transcripts of the meeting (redacted by DOJ) .

    Recorded Interview: Robert Hur, President Biden Transcript | U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee Democrats

    But that is a poor substitute to hearing the audio or seeing a video .

    Flashback April 11 ,1974 Richard Nixon under pressure from the House Judiciary Committee released transcripts of his secretly recorded tapes from the Oval office. They were not satisfied and took him to court . SCOTUS eventually ordered the tapes be surrendered .

    Yesterday Quid invoked executive privilege as a reason for not releasing the audio.

    Because of the President’s longstanding commitment to protecting the integrity, effectiveness, and independence of the Department of Justice and its law enforcement investigations, he has decided to assert executive privilege over the recordings
    Biden invokes executive privilege on special counsel recording demanded by GOP (yahoo.com)

    Why then were the transcripts released ? He waived executive privilege by their release . The interview didn’t concern his current duties or deliberations. It concerned his handling of documents while in the Senate, as Vice President, or as a private citizen. So there is no cause for invoking privilege.

    The claim that it protects the DOJ doesn't fly either . This is an investigation they already closed. So it does nothing to interfere in their work. As for the cynical claim that the Repubs want it for political reasons ;all I have to say is DUH ! If the taped reveal that Quid is a zombie then yeah it will embarrass him politically . Are they claiming that the lawfare campaign against Trump doesn't have a heavy dose of politics related ?

    Or maybe they want to hide the fact that the audio doesn't match what's in the transcripts ????????? Hmmmmmmm !!!
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    May 17, 2024, 06:34 AM
    Tom, you are making the mistake of thinking that we are still operating under the rule of law.

    Every Dem that has contact with him claims he is lucid . Indeed he gives that impression in public appearances when they have to foresight to give him some Kickapoo joy juice before unleashing him.
    It will be Trump's assignment in the two debates to make sure the American people see the mental decline that Biden is in the midst of. Can he do it? I am not at all convinced he can.
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    May 17, 2024, 07:50 AM
    The House Judiciary Committee voted 18-15 to send contempt of Congress charges to the full House for AG Garland defying the tape subpoena .

    He apparently thinks that Congress cannot hold the Justice Dept accountable if they defy Congress subpoenas .

    This happens days after prosecutors want Steve Bannon to report for jail for his contempt conviction for ignoring a subpoena. This happens after a few weeks of Peter Navarro reporting to prison to serve his sentence for being guilty of contempt of Congress.

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