[tomder55]

Everywhere is freaks and hairies
Dykes and fairies, tell me, where is sanity?
Tax the rich, feed the poor
'Til there are no rich no more

'I'd Love to Change the World ' by Ten Years After

Dubai is the place to be . 70,000 Jet setting globalist arrived in fossil fuel powered planes and yachts for the annual climate change conference. (up from around 50,000 attendees last year) These selfless crusaders </sarc>are meeting with plans to pick your pockets.

Why the Success of COP28 Depends on Climate Finance (columbia.edu)

The host of the event ; Sultan Al Jaber is the CEO of Dhabi National Oil Co. He is allegedly also arranging meetings for new oil deals with many attendees at this event.

COP28 president denies using summit for oil deals (bbc.com)


Kam the Sham was sent by Quid to represent America's surrender.

Kamala Harris is expected to attend COP28 after pushback over Biden skipping summit, source says | CNN Politics

Quid does not want to disrupt his long weekends ;and he is exhausted from attending Roslynn Carter's funeral.

The globalists want to use the climate change excuse to set up a fund that transfers wealth from rich nations to poor ones. I believe they already have the framework and will adapt a so called 'Disaster Fund ' in the session that opened in Dubai.

DISASTER FUND

As the U.N. climate conference kicked off, delegates were hoping to clinch an early victory on a disaster fund. The COP28 presidency published a proposal late Wednesday for countries to formally adopt the outlines of a new U.N. fund for poor countries being hit by climate disasters like extreme flooding or persistent drought.

An early breakthrough on the damage fund - which poorer nations have demanded for years - could help grease the wheels for other compromises to be made during the two-week summit.

COP28 Opens With Plea to Work Together on Fossil Fuels (usnews.com)

They are playing the rich countries are guilty card with this 'loss and damage fund' .

Who will administer the fund .....why the UN of course with all that pocket lining transparent use of funding they have done in the past . (see Oil for Food as but one example.......Over the next eight years, $110 billion in oil sales was used to pay for food, medicine and other humanitarian aid for the Iraqi people.
But by 2003, the program was scuttled after allegations of deep and widespread corruption that rose to the highest levels of U.N. administration, even Annan’s own son.
An Inquiry on the U.N. Iraq Oil-for-Food Programme | NYU School of Law)

UN Secretary-General António Guterres has called for the use of windfall taxes on oil companies .Others have called for debt for loss and damage swaps, international taxes and a dedicated finance facility for loss and damage under the UN supervision.

The UN already administers a $12 billion fund called 'The Green Climate Fund'. But they never tire of picking your pockets.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) says developing countries need $2 trillion a year from rich nations starting in 2030 to respond to climate change.
Emerging Economies Need Much More Private Financing for Climate Transition (imf.org)

[tomder55]

King Charles address to COP-28 makes it clear the goal is wealth transfer and the creation of a one world government .
Transcript of King Charles delivers ... | Happy Scribe

It's your typical 'never let a "crisis" go to waste '

I can only encourage you to consider some practical questions which might inform the task ahead of you. First, Healthy, how can our multilateral organizations, which were established at a different time for different challenges, be strengthened to the crisis we face? How can we bring together our public, private, philanthropic, and NGO sectors ever more effectively so that they all play their part in delivering climate action, each complementing the unique strengths of the others. Public finance alone will never be sufficient. But with the private sector firmly at the table and a better, fairer international financial system, combined with the innovative use of risk reduction tools like first loss risk guarantees, we could mobilize the trillions of dollars we need in the order of four and a half to five trillion a year to drive transformation we need. Secondly, how can we ensure that finance flows to those developments most essential to a sustainable future and away from practices that make our world more dangerous. Across every industry, in every part of the world. I have, for instance, been heartened by some of the steps taken by parts of the insurance sector, which plays such a vital role in incentivising more sustainable approaches and providing an invaluable source of investment to reduce the risks we face.

Taxes ;regulations ;change the banking system ;using the insurance system to compel a world transformation .

[jlisenbe]

It always both amuses and angers me to see the wealthy (like KC) speak of the moral imperatives of wealth transfer, a subject they really don't believe in since they are presently not transferring their own wealth to the poor. They are looking for 4 or 5 trillion a year. JB would suggest they just print it. Works great here!! [sarc]

I think there is something far more sinister at work here. It's always about control.

[tomder55]

Meanwhile the Slimes reports that environmental groups are cutting funding for common sense purposed like cleaning rivers so they can jump on board this green new steal bandwagon.

Environmental Groups Cut Programs as Funding Shifts to Climate Change - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

“Funders that had a nuclear program or a toxics program have left those fields entirely and have gone to climate change,” said Marylia Kelley, senior adviser and former executive director of a citizens oversight group that has long challenged the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California on releases of radioactivity and national security issues.
Leaders of some legacy environmental groups largely agree that climate change, given its wide range of increasing global effects, is a top priority. But they warn that toxics in communities across the nation remain an immediate threat to human health and animal habitats.

They are wrong about nuclear energy .Nuclear energy is clean .Other than that they have a point. Ask the people in East Palestine Ohio if climate change is their top environmental concern .

It always both amuses and angers me to see the wealthy (like KC) speak of the moral imperatives of wealth transfer, a subject they really don't believe in since they are presently not transferring their own wealth to the poor.

I think there is something far more sinister at work her

There is . COP-28 is full of fat cat dreamers . The only person there who is making any sense is Sultan al-Jaber who warns against a swift move away from fossil fuels. The Pope called climate change a religious issue. In his remarks he of course took on capitalism and human self sufficiency. He like others there believes in massive wealth transfers .

The drive to produce and possess has become an obsession, resulting in an inordinate greed that has made the environment the object of unbridled exploitation. The climate, run amok, is crying out to us to halt this illusion of omnipotence. Let us once more recognize our limits, with humility and courage, as the sole path to a life of authentic fulfilment.


The development of many countries, already burdened by grave economic debt, should not be penalized; instead, we should consider the footprint of a few nations responsible for a deeply troubling “ecological debt” towards many others (cf. ibid., 51-52). It would only be fair to find suitable means of remitting the financial debts that burden different peoples, not least in light of the ecological debt that they are owed.

Address of His Holiness Pope Francis to the Conference of Parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (COP28) (2 December 2023) | Francis (vatican.va)

[jlisenbe]

The only practical alternative to fossil fuels is nuke power.

[tomder55]

The only practical alternative to fossil fuels is nuke power.

It is an integral part of an all of the above approach to fuel the 21st century. What they are really doing is planning on keeping the poor of the world poor They want to knee cap the development of nations that have not yet developed and industrial base.

[jlisenbe]

I think there's more to it than just suppressing the have-nots. They want to control us. They are polar opposites of the Founding Fathers who, incredibly, started a new nation where individual freedom was highly valued. These current elites view that as a threat.

[jlisenbe]

He like others there believes in massive wealth transfers .

I don't think so. If they really believed in it, then they would be presently doing it as individuals. It's like the man who said, "I believe in this war so much that I am prepared to volunteer my two cousins to fight in it." It's all about exercising control in order to achieve a goal, and I imagine the goal is for that group of 70K, and their buddies and relatives, to become even more wealthy and more powerful. It's always the same story through all of human history. As you said above, "What they are really doing is planning on keeping the poor of the world poor They want to knee cap the development of nations that have not yet developed and industrial base."

[tomder55]

The result of this 2 week sojourn from reality is contained in a 21 page ;196 recommendation list for nations to destroy their energy infrastructure AND to help pay for poorer nations to do likewise.

Outcome of the first global stocktake. Draft decision -/CMA.5. Proposal by the President (unfccc.int)


The new agreement calls for a tripling of renewable energy and a doubling of energy efficiency by 2030.

This at a time where many of the signatories are taking steps to rethink their commitment .

Germany solves budget spat by cutting climate fund and increasing energy taxes – EURACTIV.com

German power mix may get dirtier for 1st non-nuclear winter | Reuters

Support for renewable energy lowest in France, Germany – EURACTIV.com

Why Rishi Sunak is backing away from the 2030 petrol car ban (telegraph.co.uk)

[tomder55]

One year later it's COP29 . The talks are going nowhere as more pressing global concerns like WWIII and of course Hitler .....oops I mean Trump winning the US elections.(anyone who calls Trump Hitler is a Russian asset) .

But that is not stopping the G20 from trying to lock the US into shelling out a $$$$$$$$ fortune in redistribution for unreachable climate goals.

UN climate chief asks G20 leaders for boost as COP29 finance talks lag | Reuters

Turns out host nation Azerbaijan and the Saudis like the revenue they get from selling oil.
Azerbaijan president lauds fossil fuels, knifes Western ‘hypocrisy’ in COP29 opener – POLITICO


The goal is for the world to commit a staggering $1 trillion annually . But who pays ?

Climate finance: who is being asked to pay what at COP29? | Nation | iosconews.com


The G20 is trying to lock in a US commitment before Trump's inauguration.

G-20 Set to Back Climate Goals, Global Trade in Message to Trump - Bloomberg