[jlisenbe]

If a woman wants to begin transition (months of counseling and gender affirmation) and happens to be pregnant, transition will not be considered. There is no such animal as a "pregnant man".

You are welcome to that opinion, but there is a wide assortment of disagreement on this topic.

Yes, it’s possible for men to become pregnant and give birth to children of their own. In fact, it’s probably a lot more common than you might think.

https://www.healthline.com/health/tr...OC_TITLE_HDR_1

So Tom's post, as it turns out, is tragically, horribly, stupidly accurate. What a comment on our culture.

[Wondergirl]

Oh, that science....

How many women can impregnate other women?

Barnum would be thrilled!!!

[jlisenbe]

It does answer many questions.

[Wondergirl]

We're definitely no longer pure male or pure female as God created us.

[jlisenbe]

And just like that, you throw science out the window.

[Wondergirl]

We need science to understand where Satan has dragged us.

[jlisenbe]

That raises two questions.
1. If this is the result of Satan's actions, then why should it be celebrated and encouraged? Even more, why not encourage people to seek God's help in escaping from this fruit of the devil?
2. So far I have seen no science to help us understand this. Have you?

[Wondergirl]

That raises two questions.
1. If this is the result of Satan's actions, then why should it be celebrated and encouraged? Even more, why not encourage people to seek God's help in escaping from this fruit of the devil?
2. So far I have seen no science to help us understand this. Have you?

1. Satan wants to confuse us and turn us against our Creator. Satan grabs onto a biological/scientifically reasonable development and twists it so we become confused.
2. Do you have a valid public library card? If not, please apply for one. Then go to your public library and ask for help in finding legit scientific articles that explain this science in an understandable way.

Please report back.

[jlisenbe]

1. Satan wants to confuse us and turn us against our Creator. Satan grabs onto a biological/scientifically reasonable development and twists it so we become confused.

So now you've gone from this being the result of Satan's actions to a being a biologically/scientifically reasonable development? How convenient. And I can see nothing reasonable about TG from a biological/scientific perspective. How would that be a "reasonable development"?

2. Do you have a valid public library card? If not, please apply for one. Then go to your public library and ask for help in finding legit scientific articles that explain this science in an understandable way.

You used to be a librarian and you can't find anything. Why would you think someone else could? Besides, as I have told you repeatedly, it's not someone else's job to find support for your ideas. That's your job, so that's a pretty lame request, don't you think?

[Wondergirl]

I never said it was Satan behind it. Sheesh.

I am a retired librarian. Please go to your home library to do research. You have made it very clear that you have no respect for me and the information I have offered so far.

[jlisenbe]

Yes you did. You said it was the result of Satan's action against God's creation.

We go through this over and over again. You make assertions for which you can find no support. Respect for you is not an issue, but you would be much better off if you would simply admit that you can't find anything. The anecdotal accounts you tend to post prove nothing since such accounts never prove anything.

[Wondergirl]

Yes you did. You said it was the result of Satan's action against God's creation.

No I didn't. I deliberately did not mention Satan.

We go through this over and over again. You make assertions for which you can find no support. Respect for you is not an issue, but you would be much better off if you would simply admit that you can't find anything. The anecdotal accounts you tend to post prove nothing since such accounts never prove anything.

And you cherry pick your way through the Bible and what I write.

[jlisenbe]

You did post it.

Deflect/evade all you want. This remains true. "We go through this over and over again. You make assertions for which you can find no support. Respect for you is not an issue, but you would be much better off if you would simply admit that you can't find anything. The anecdotal accounts you tend to post prove nothing since such accounts never prove anything."

Even now you can't bring yourself to be honest and admit it. And that's not an ugly comment. I think that you frequently mean well and you believe what you are posting, but it is has been your consistent pattern to not be able to back up your statements with anything more than, "Hey, I know a TG person and he/she says it's real," and then to get desperate and suggest I do it for you. No thanks.

And you cherry pick

In my experience, that's what people who are losing the argument might say in lieu of any serious response.

[Wondergirl]

Please quote me and note the post # when I said "...it was the result of Satan's action against God's creation."

[jlisenbe]

That delete key came in handy for you, but we both know.

[Wondergirl]

Shame on you!!! No deleting was done. I had DELIBERATELY typed "Mother Nature", remembering your previous Satanic accusations.

[jlisenbe]

I remember well what I read. At any rate, you did say "mother nature"...TODAY, but we are discussing a reference from yesterday, post 292 and back a few more posts from there. You don't mention MN there. How strange!! So this is not true. "I had DELIBERATELY typed 'Mother Nature.'" Your only use of MN is in post 296. Here is the search.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/search...rchid=15067412

[Wondergirl]

It says, "Sorry. No matches."

[jlisenbe]

Works fine for me. Still, I aims to please!! Please note that the only uses of "mother nature" were today. This search was for the past 7 days. Besides that, I looked back carefully at today and yesterday. There was no use of that term yesterday.

[Wondergirl]

Post #224. Then Satan slithered in.