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    Mar 17, 2023, 05:59 AM
    Turns out they were just a little bit off.
    1. 1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
    2. 1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
    3. 1970: Ice Age By 2000
    4. 1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
    5. 1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
    6. 1972: New Ice Age By 2070
    7. 1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
    8. 1974: Another Ice Age?
    9. 1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life (data and graph)
    10. 1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
    11. 1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes (additional link)
    12. 1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend (additional link)
    13. 1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
    14. 1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
    15. 1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
    16. 1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
    17. 1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
    18. 2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
    19. 2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
    20. 2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
    21. 2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
    22. 2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
    23. 2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
    24. 2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
    25. 2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
    26. 2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015 (additional link)
    27. 2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
    28. 1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
    29. 1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
    30. 1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
    31. 1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
    32. 1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 1990s
    33. 1980: Peak Oil In 2000
    34. 1996: Peak Oil in 2020
    35. 2002: Peak Oil in 2010
    36. 2006: Super Hurricanes!
    37. 2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
    38. 1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
    39. 1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
    40. 1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
    41. 1970s: Killer Bees!
    Update: I’ve added 9 additional failed predictions (via Real Climate Science) below to make it an even 50 for the number of failed eco-pocalyptic doomsday predictions over the last 50 years.
    42. 1975: The Cooling World and a Drastic Decline in Food Production
    43. 1969: Worldwide Plague, Overwhelming Pollution, Ecological Catastrophe, Virtual Collapse of UK by End of 20th Century
    44. 1972: Pending Depletion and Shortages of Gold, Tin, Oil, Natural Gas, Copper, Aluminum
    45. 1970: Oceans Dead in a Decade, US Water Rationing by 1974, Food Rationing by 1980
    46. 1988: World’s Leading Climate Expert Predicts Lower Manhattan Underwater by 2018
    47. 2005: Fifty Million Climate Refugees by the Year 2020
    48. 2000: Snowfalls Are Now a Thing of the Past
    49.1989: UN Warns That Entire Nations Wiped Off the Face of the Earth by 2000 From Global Warming
    50. 2011: Washington Post Predicted Cherry Blossoms Blooming in Winter

    50 Years of Failed Doomsday, Eco-pocalyptic Predictions; the So-called ‘experts’ Are 0-50 | American Enterprise Institute - AEI
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    Mar 17, 2023, 01:34 PM
    lets not forget Greta .
    This week she deleted postings that called for dooms day in 2023

    This she deleted ....... how dare she !!!

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    Mar 17, 2023, 02:42 PM
    It'll happen. She guessed too early.
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    Mar 17, 2023, 02:45 PM
    Sooner or later, they need to actually turn out to be correct. To suggest that we'll all be dead in five years is ludicrous. I have no idea why anyone listens to her.
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    Mar 17, 2023, 05:28 PM
    It'll happen. She guessed too early.

    'This too shall pass '
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    Jun 24, 2023, 06:26 PM
    On June 21, 2018, Greta Thunberg tweeted that “climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years.” June 21,2023 has come and gone and we are still here .

    How are we doing ? Massive subsidies over many years ;renewables represent 4% of our energy usage . We use virtually the same amount of fossil fuels we did for the last decade. Despite that American are breathing cleaner air with pollution being down 80% from the 1980s

    Our Nation's Air 2022 (epa.gov)

    And climate related deaths have dropped up to 98% in the last century.


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    Jun 24, 2023, 07:50 PM
    I see no profit at all in solar due to the fact that it only delivers efficiently for six or eight hours a day, and oftentimes not even that. Wind power might be effective in some areas. I don't doubt that raising the CO2 content of the atmosphere is not a good idea, but I have yet to see any good answer for it other than nuclear.
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    Jun 25, 2023, 05:33 AM
    Wind power might be effective in some areas
    not as a primary source. Texas taught up that . Too much loss in transmission and storage.
    And it still takes mining to make the windmills . Mining is done with heavy equipment. Including crushed stones, silica, limestone and gypsum for cement ;iron, molybdenum ,and coal for the coke to make the steel; and zinc to galvanize the steel... bauxite to make aluminum; cobalt for the magnets ;copper for the wiring ;rare earth minerals for the batteries and oil to make polyester resins and composites .Typical turbines need a 1,000 ton base of cement to support up to 334 tons of turbine that have upward air pressure on them to work .
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    Jun 25, 2023, 05:40 AM
    I'm not a fan of wind power, but it does have potential in some areas like Texas where the wind basically blows all the time. While there certainly is some investment of energy into the mining and construction that is necessary, you then get twenty or thirty years of something that at least approaches a free input of energy. And as I understand it, the ice storm fiasco of 2021 wasn't so much due to the wind turbines as it was due to some foolish policies of the Texas energy grid which had largely isolated itself from other grids around it.

    The use of solar/wind power to produce hydrogen fuel is an idea that might have some potential, but it would be a REALLY long term investment and would no doubt be a great deal more expensive than just building natural gas generators.
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    Jun 28, 2023, 02:03 AM
    Natural carbon free hydrogen could be the future. We already know how to produce hydrogen with fuel cells . But the process is not clean .

    What if there is a source of hydrogen already available in the ground ?

    Hydrogen is potentially valuable as a fuel because hydrogen combustion produces only heat and water, unlike the burning of fossil fuels, which produces greenhouse gases, according to the U.S. Department of Energy.
    Hydrogen has the potential to power electrical grids, run factories, heat homes and propel vehicles when combined with a fuel cell. Today, hydrogen is most commonly used in petroleum refining and fertilizer production. The clean-burning gas is forecast to play a central role in reducing the carbon footprint of heavy industries such as steel and chemicals. However, most current hydrogen production requires the use of fossil fuels. Methods of low-emission hydrogen production are currently small compared with where analysts believe it will need to be in the future.
    Underground Hydrogen Could Supercharge Green Energy. First, Scientists Have to Find It. - WSJ

    It burns clean ;it appears to be easily renewable

    Potentially, “it's 150 trillion metric tons,” Wicks said. “One billion tons would power the United States for a full year.”

    Forget Oil. New Wildcatters Are Drilling For Limitless ‘Geologic’ Hydrogen (forbes.com)

    Natural hydrogen, if it forms sizable reserves, might be there for the taking, giving the experienced drillers in the oil and gas industry a new, environmentally friendly mission. “I believe that it has the potential to replace all fossil fuels,” Zgonnik says. “That’s a very large statement, I know.”
    Critically, natural hydrogen may be not only clean, but also renewable. It takes millions of years for buried and compressed organic deposits to turn into oil and gas. By contrast, natural hydrogen is always being made afresh, when underground water reacts with iron minerals at elevated temperatures and pressures. In the decade since boreholes began to tap hydrogen in Mali, flows have not diminished, says Prinzhofer, who has consulted on the project. “Hydrogen appears, almost everywhere, as a renewable source of energy, not a fossil one,” he says.

    It is still early days for natural hydrogen. Scientists don’t completely understand how it forms and migrates and—most important—whether it accumulates in a commercially exploitable way.
    Hidden hydrogen: Earth may hold vast stores of a renewable, carbon-free fuel | Science | AAAS

    The Potential for Geologic Hydrogen for Next-Generation Energy | U.S. Geological Survey (usgs.gov)
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    Jun 28, 2023, 04:41 AM
    That's a lot of maybes. It's hard to imagine geologic hydrogen ever becoming a globally significant contributor since it is presently pretty much at zero, but we'll see. It would be an ideal solution to part of the problem. I don't see how cars and trucks would be able to use it.
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    Jun 28, 2023, 07:44 AM
    Already happening . They cost too much . But that will go down

    Some are hybrid EVs


    10 Hydrogen Cars To Look Out For (topspeed.com)

    Buses & Trucks | Hydrogen Fuel Cell Partnership (h2fcp.org)


    Toyota unveils a hydrogen race car concept built for Le Mans 24 Hours | Engadget
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    Jun 28, 2023, 09:29 AM
    Not too sure how that is supposed to work in wide spread usage. The primary problem would be refueling. For a country accustomed to self-serve gasoline, I don't see how the fueling issues for H2 will work out.
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    Jun 28, 2023, 11:45 AM
    Liquification plants and storage have been in operation since the 1980s. Infrastructure on a scale that we have for gas powered vehicles would need to be built . That is a given . The promise of more than a century of abundant clean energy could make the investment worth it , it is already well into the planning phase.

    Overview of H2USA Activities (energy.gov)

    It could come very quickly . The first American made gas car was 1893 . The first gas pump and underground storage tank 1898 The first gas station in America was in 1905 The first intercontinental highway ;the Lincoln Highway ,was started in 1913 .

    In the scheme of things that was a rapid transition from having to ride horses . And the pace of technological advancement has made the time frame shorter still.
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    Jun 9, 2025, 02:29 AM
    Greta got bored with her shilling about climate change . She has joined the hate Jews bandwagon.
    In that effort she boarded a diesel powered yacht with enough supplies to feed a family of 4 for a few days ; and cruised to the Israeli coast purportedly to distribute aide to the people of Gaza. (the ship does have sails for image sake. )

    The Israelis have boarded the ship and detained the passengers . They will bring to supplies to Gaza to safely distribute them .
    The passengers had a grand ole time taking plenty of selfies for posterity .



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    Jun 9, 2025, 08:13 PM
    I sure am glad she's a left-winger.
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    Jun 10, 2025, 02:51 AM
    She and the crew received aid by the Israelis in the form of food and water . She and the crew will now be deported back to their countries.


    The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs said “The passengers are safe and were provided with sandwiches and water, and are expected to return to their home countries.......“The tiny amount of aid that wasn't consumed by the 'celebrities' will be transferred to Gaza through real humanitarian channels."“There are ways to deliver aid to the Gaza Strip – they do not involve provocations and selfies,”
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    Jun 10, 2025, 04:18 AM
    Love it . The Israelis are forcing Greta and her celeb activists to watch an unedited video of the October 7 attack by Hamas.

    Katz says detained activists to be forced to watch video of Hamas atrocities | The Times of Israel

    IDF shows foreign press Hamas bodycam videos, photos of murder, torture, decapitation | The Times of Israel

    The one concern is that they hate Jews so much that they may enjoy the video
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    Jun 11, 2025, 01:01 PM
    Hamas Agrees To Surrender If Europe Will Take Greta Thunberg Back | Babylon Bee

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