[jlisenbe]

You are too fearful to answer such a question. It's your usual MO.

Every time I read this, I think about you. Like them, you are smart enough to spot a question that, if answered honestly, would prove to be damaging to your beliefs, so you just avoid it. Sad.

they discussed it among themselves, saying, “If we say, ‘From heaven,’ he will say to us, ‘Why then did you not believe him?’ 26But if we say, ‘From man,’ we are afraid of the crowd, for they all hold that John was a prophet.” 27So they answered Jesus, “We do not know.”

[Wondergirl]

You are too fearful to answer such a question. It's your usual MO.

Fodder for discussion, Sir!!!! Fear has nothing to do with it!

"How was Jesus raised from the dead?' Discussion point #1 -- Was He raised or did He raise Himself?

[jlisenbe]

As usual, the fearful person tries to answer a question with a question. Like I said, it is your MO.

It's why you consistently avoided the question until you could not do otherwise. As I said, it's a sad sight. Fear makes us act in strange ways.

[Wondergirl]

As usual, the fearful person tries to answer a question with a question. Like I said, it is your MO.

Apparently, you do not understand how discussion works. It isn't a war of flat-out belief statements from each participant.

To continue the discussion, Bob joins in with:

Hmmm, "Was He raised or did He raise Himself?" Well, Jesus is God so He very likely raised Himself, yet various Bible verses say God raised Him. Soooo, why couldn't Jesus raise Himself and save His Father the work? Was Jesus REALLY God? And why would Jesus lay back and let His Father do all the work?

[jlisenbe]

Thank you for an answer to a question that has not been asked. This is the question you claim to be "discussing", but in reality are doing anything but.

How was Jesus raised from the dead? Can you explain that naturally?

[Wondergirl]

Thank you for an answer to a question that has not been asked. This is the question you claim to be "discussing", but in reality are doing anything but.

How was Jesus raised from the dead? Can you explain that naturally?

I added more to Bob's discussion point in Post #24. Yes, discussion.

[jlisenbe]

Yes, you have done all you could do to avoid answering a simple question, including conducting a fantasy "discussion" with an imaginary person.

[Wondergirl]

Yes, you have done all you could do to avoid answering a simple question, including conducting a fantasy "discussion" with an imaginary person.

Discussion does not always answer a question, but brings up additional points of view, things to consider. Discussion is not the same as answering.

[jlisenbe]

Discussion is not the same as answering.

With you it certainly is not.

[Wondergirl]

With you it certainly is not.

So, I gather you aren't interested in discussion. You want an answer that, no matter what it is or how correct it may be, you will then stomp on it. I get it.

[jlisenbe]

You want an answer that, no matter what it is or how correct it may be, you will then stomp on it. I get it.

Why is it always someone else's fault with you? Can you not take some responsibility for your own actions/inactions? You have refused to answer which is your privilege, and I'm not surprised. Really, there is no point in this continued waste of time.

[Wondergirl]

Why is it always someone else's fault with you? Can you not take some responsibility for your own actions/inactions? You have refused to answer which is your privilege, and I'm not surprised. Really, there is no point in this continued waste of time.

The question has several possible answers (not just one). It would be fun to explore the possibilities!

You want an answer to that question? Okay, I will answer. I will give $100 to Athos if I answer and then you tell me what I suspect you will, that it's wrong.

[dwashbur]

lisenbe
You want an answer that, no matter what it is or how correct it may be, you will then stomp on it. I get it.
Why is it always someone else's fault with you? Can you not take some responsibility for your own actions/inactions? You have refused to answer which is your privilege, and I'm not surprised. Really, there is no point in this continued waste of time.

So let's hear your answer. That might make a good starting point.

[jlisenbe]

If you had kept up with this thread, then I think you would have seen that answering the question was not really the point. WG had mocked evangelicals with this. "Fundamentalist/evangelical taking the path of least resistance: "You ask, how did Noah feed all those animals on the ark for over a month? My answer: Doesn't matter. God took care of it."

My point in asking her about the resurrection was to show that God raising Jesus from the dead makes all other events in the Bible possible. That's why, I think, she did not care to answer it. Too dangerous.

As to my answer, it would be this. "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."

[Wondergirl]

As to my answer, it would be this. "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."

Why didn't Jesus, being part of the Godhead, raise Himself?

Please explain what "quicken your mortal bodies" means?

[jlisenbe]

So now I'm supposed to do all the answering? Oh well.

1. It makes no difference, but I would imagine that it had to do with the total dependence on his Father that his life exemplified for us.
2. Quicken is an old English word that means to bring to life.

[Wondergirl]

So now I'm supposed to do all the answering? Oh well.

No. This is a discussion. You answer, then ask a related question of your own.

1. It makes no difference, but I would imagine that it had to do with the total dependence on his Father that his life exemplified for us.
2. Quicken is an old English word that means to bring to life.

Thank you. I like your first answer and agree wirth it. As for "quicken", I wasn't sure where you were going by citing that verse.

Now, please ask a related question.

[jlisenbe]

"How was Jesus raised from the dead? Can you explain that naturally?"

[Wondergirl]

"How was Jesus raised from the dead? Can you explain that naturally?"

Since He was a Person in the Trinity, I would have expected Him to raise Himself -- as a proof He's God. His Father raising Him did, as you stated, indicate the total dependence He had on His Father and thus gave us an example.

My question: Why three days in the tomb?

[jlisenbe]

So why you could not have done that days ago is just a mystery. But since His Father was fully able to do so, then I would think feeding a bunch of animals on the ark would have been a piece of cake.