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    #21

    Feb 8, 2023, 05:32 AM
    with apologies to Nena The lyrics updated

    '99 Luftballons '



    You and I in a little toy shop
    Buy a bag of balloons with the money we've got
    Set them free at the break of dawn
    'Til one by one, they were gone
    Back at base, sparks in the software
    Flash the message "Something's out there"
    Floating in the summer sky
    a white balloon go by


    Floating in the summer sky
    Panic bells, it's red alert
    There's something here from somewhere else
    The war machine springs to life
    Opens up one eager eye
    Focusing it on the sky
    99 Decision Street
    99 ministers meet
    To worry, worry, super scurry
    Call the troops out in a hurry
    This is what we've waited for
    This is it boys, this is war
    The President is on the line
    As a white balloon goes by

    99 knights of the air
    Ride super high-tech jet fighters
    Everyone's a superhero
    Everyone's a Captain Kirk
    With orders to identify
    To clarify and classify
    Scrambling the winter sky
    As a white balloon goes by

    99 dreams I have had
    In every one, a white balloon
    It's all over, and I'm standing pretty
    In this dust that was a city
    If I could find a souvenir
    Just to prove the world was here
    And here is a white balloon
    I think of you, and shoot it down .

    NENA | 99 Luftballons (Live 2018) (HD) - YouTube
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    #22

    Feb 8, 2023, 09:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    with apologies to Nene
    The group's name was Nena.
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    Feb 10, 2023, 07:46 AM
    Do you believe in coincidences ?

    North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) conducted 'Operation NOBLE DEFENDER' across multiple locations in the Arctic, Canada and the United States between January 15-31 .

    The Chinese balloon meandered across multiple points of our early warning system within that time frame before being detected by citizens in Montana on February 2.

    It was first detected in Alaskan air space north of the Aleutian Islands on January 28. North American Aerospace Defense Command determined it posed no threat or intelligence risk .

    Did they inform the President ? NO . Why Not ?

    January 30 ,it is determined by NORAD that it is a spy balloon. It is being tracked through Canada . Was Clueless informed ? No .

    January 31 , It enters continental US in Idaho . Finally Clueless is briefed by the DOD.

    He asks for options to shoot it down. At this point there are many opportunities to down the balloon where the only living things that would be in danger are prairie dogs and elk. The Pentagon has an exact path plotted but decides that instead of downing it they would cease any activity that could give the Chinese signal intel (SIGNIT)

    February 1 . The balloon veers off of the path the Pentagon plotted and just happens to park over Malmstrom Air Force Base, one of three sites that operate and maintain the nation’s intercontinental ballistic missiles. F-22 jets are scrambled but still no action is taken . Clueless
    directs the Pentagon to come up with options to shoot down the balloon as soon as it is safe to do so over U.S. territorial waters.
    Sec State Blinken meet with Chinese embassy officials.(5 days after the balloon 1st entered US territory) .

    February 2 , the government can't stay quiet anymore . The Pentagon makes a public statement Key members of Congress had not been briefed 6 days after the balloon entered US territory . Once they become aware they start to make noise legitimately asking why they have not been briefed .
    Blinken decides to postpone his planned trip to China.

    February 3 China claims it is a weather balloon that 'accidently' drifted into US airspace.

    February 4 after travelling the length of continental US making stop overs at Malmstrom and Whiteman Airforce Base Missouri (where strategic stealth B2 bomber are housed ) it is finally shot down in the waters off of Myrtle Beach SC. The Pentagon claims it is a good thing that it took a week to down it because they were able to study it's capability .The Chinese say we violated international practices and said there will be repercussions .

    The US is still recovering the remains of the balloon ;now submerged in sea water for a week further degrading the value of the remains .

    Senior officials said that it’s very early in the process and so far have only recovered pieces of evidence that were on the surface. Those pieces include the balloon, some wiring and a very small amount of electronics.
    “We have not seen the payload which is where we expect to see the lion share of the electronics,” the senior official stated.
    The FBI added that it’s still too early to determine the intent of the balloon.
    Senior officials also said that this weekend’s weather may also impact the search.


    FBI on Chinese surveillance balloon recovery off S.C. coast: ‘Much of the evidence remains underwater’ (wmbfnews.com)

    Yesterday Clueless said it was 'NOT a major breach ' of US security .

    'Handled perfectly by Biden'.
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    Feb 10, 2023, 07:53 AM
    'Handled perfectly by Biden'.
    First words I thought of as well!

    All of this casts doubt on the Hersh article. It is hard to imagine Biden being able to make bold decisions.
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    Feb 10, 2023, 09:26 AM
    more likely he listens to his puppet masters .
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    Feb 10, 2023, 01:27 PM
    We shot down a UFO over Alaska today . ABC is calling it a balloon but so far official word is it is a 'high-altitude object'

    I bet it looked like this



    or this

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    Feb 14, 2023, 09:45 AM
    It took 2 sidewinders to take down the UFO over Lake Huron A sidewinder costs $450,000 each .
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    Feb 14, 2023, 01:47 PM
    The "spy balloon" pic is hilarious.

    I'm surprised the Sidewinder would work at all. They are heat-seekers. What heat is there on the balloon?
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    Feb 14, 2023, 04:38 PM
    I'm not sure the other 3 targets were balloons. The administration has been hush hush about that .
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    Feb 14, 2023, 04:57 PM
    Very good point.
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    Feb 15, 2023, 10:51 AM
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    Feb 15, 2023, 12:24 PM
    aint that the truth

    White House spokesperson John Kirby said Tuesday the intelligence community is "considering as a leading explanation" that the three objects shot down over the weekend "could just be balloons tied to some commercial or benign purpose."

    A 'leading explanation' is 3 downed objects were commercial, benign balloons, White House says - ABC News (go.com)

    5 sidewinders used so far attacking balloons .

    Maybe this would've been better

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    #34

    Jun 23, 2024, 03:34 AM
    NY Post has a map of Chinese owned farm land in the US . Most of it is near military bases.



    Chinese-owned farmland next to 19 US military bases (nypost.com)

    “It is alarming we do not have laws on the books that would prevent the Chinese from buying property in the US.”
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    Jun 23, 2024, 04:11 AM
    As is the case in a number of areas, we are so focused on the really important things like proper usage of pronouns that there is just no time to worry about trivialities such as the Chinese buying up the country.
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    Dec 13, 2024, 03:54 AM
    Now large drones that sound like Harley Davidson motorcycles are flying over New Jersey ;including military bases . Scores of people have reported sightings of them and taken photos of them . Just like the Chinese balloons ;the government tried to ignore them and keep people in the dark about them. When the compliant press began to notice the administration had to respond. National security spokesperson John Kirby says "nothing to see here " .

    White House security adviser dismisses NJ drone sightings — here's what he claims they really are

    These are not drone toys you can pick up at electronics stores . They are the type of drones that are being used in the Ukraine conflict ;ones that hover over targets for surveillance or attack .


    Nothing to see here

    A Chinese national who lives in Northern California has been arrested on suspicion of flying a drone over Vandenberg Space Force Base and taking photos of the facility, the U.S. Department of Justice said Wednesday. Yinpiao Zhou, 39, a Chinese citizen living legally in the U.S., in Brentwood, Contra Costa County, has been charged with failure to register an aircraft not providing transportation and violation of national defense airspace, the Justice Department said in a statement.
    He was arrested Tuesday at San Francisco International Airport as he prepared to board a flight to China and had been due to appear in court Wednesday.
    Chinese man arrested, accused of flying drone over and taking photos of Vandenberg Space Force Base - CBS Los Angeles
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    Dec 13, 2024, 06:07 AM
    Biden cannot leave too soon.
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    Dec 13, 2024, 02:08 PM
    It would scare me . Video shows these are swarms of drones as big as SUVs

    'Clearly something going on': NJ residents demanding answers over mysterious drones

    Even Senator Spartacus notices .

    Others who have spoken out are Senator Schmucky ;Gillibrand ; Richard Blumenthal (who wants them shot down) . NY Guv Hochel is going to investigate .

    One rumor was they were coming from an Iranian mothership .
    Pentagon says mystery New Jersey drones not from Iranian 'mothership'

    The administration denied it ... I'm not so sure .

    (thanks to Babylon Bee )

    If they need my assistance ;I trained to take them out

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    Dec 13, 2024, 05:12 PM
    More lies from DHS

    "We have not been able to, and neither have state or local law enforcement authorities, corroborate any of the reported visual sightings. To the contrary, upon review of available imagery, it appears that many of the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft that are being operated lawfully."











    New Jersey Drones 'Not a National Security Threat' Say FBI, DHS - AVSN


    No problem..... if they are manned flights then tbe flight log has to be filed . Release the flight logs to the public.
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    Dec 14, 2024, 02:35 AM
    btw that wall that Trump still wants to build ...... ??? Now that Trump will be President again he can take those stacked pieces of wall already constructed and assemble them.........right ?

    Wrong.

    Clueless Joe is auctioning them off in a garage sale.


    “They are taking it from three stations: Nogales, Tucson, and Three Points,” the border patrol agent, who was granted anonymity to speak freely, told The Daily Wire. “The goal is to move all of it off the border before Christmas.”
    EXCLUSIVE: Biden Races To Sell Off Border Wall Parts Before Trump Takes Office

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