[jlisenbe]

As opposed to using what you have to glorify God.

[Wondergirl]

As opposed to using what you have to glorify God.

As you always do....

She obviously hadn't gone through complete transitioning with HRT and surgery et al., which can take as long as seven years.

[jlisenbe]

I'm afraid I most certainly do not, but it does not prevent me from making that a great goal of my life, and it does not grant me permission to excuse my failings.

My comment was actually not directed at this deceived person but rather at your comment. "You use what you've got in order to achieve ecstasy and satisfaction." It seemed a strange comment to make about such a tragic and sickening occurrence, and almost seemed to say you had no real issue with what had taken place. Perhaps I mistook your intent.

[Wondergirl]

I have no clue why you're upset with me.

Her prison sentence interrupted her transitioning. (She obviously hadn't gone through complete transitioning with HRT and surgery et al., which can take as long as seven years.)

The prison was very derelict in putting her into a women's section if she still had working male genitalia. In her brain she's female but her body operates as male. She wanted sexual satisfaction, so she used the body parts available to her.

[jlisenbe]

I have no clue why you think I'm upset with you.

I think your reply was good except for your confusion in thinking that a person you refer to as a "she" is capable of getting women pregnant and plainly desires to do so. I'll just file it away under the heading of, "The Great Current Deception".

[tomder55]

"She " couldn't keep her penis in "her" pants . You would think if "she " identified as a woman "she" would not act like a perverted man . If it's any comfort to "her" I would consider castration as a suitable punishment for rape .

[jlisenbe]

If I was a betting man, I would bet that "she" would vigorously oppose the idea of losing "her" male genitalia.

[jlisenbe]

Who would ever have thought that federal judges would become the reasonable ones? It's certainly the case here with a fed judge denying the Biden admin a bid to tell the rest of us what to believe.

A federal judge has blocked a directive from President Joe Biden’s administration that allowed transgender workers and students to use school restrooms matching their gender identities.
It also allowed transgender athletes to join sports teams corresponding with their chosen genders.
The directive was blocked by Judge Charles Atchley Jr. of the Eastern District of Tennessee, a Trump appointee, after a coalition of 20 Republican attorneys general sued last year, Reuters reported.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jud...hroom-athletes

The link includes an interview with a girl named Chloe Cole. She "transitioned" when she was 13, but now at 17 greatly regrets that decision and is living her life as the female she is.

[Wondergirl]

If it's any comfort to "her" I would consider castration as a suitable punishment for rape .

And as a trans female, that's exactly where she is headed, what she wants to have done. If that very expensive procedure can be done at the state's expense, with all protocols followed, she'd be thrilled!

[Wondergirl]

The link includes an interview with a girl named Chloe Cole. She "transitioned" when she was 13, but now at 17 greatly regrets that decision and is living her life as the female she is.

I read up on her. Little or no psychological counseling with family and individually with her, little or no gender testing and therapy. Just because a kid says he or she wants to be a kangaroo doesn't mean parents should knock themselves out to make that wish come true.

[jlisenbe]

Just because a kid says he or she wants to be a kangaroo doesn't mean parents should knock themselves out to make that wish come true.

In what way is a boy declaring himself to be a girl less outrageous than a boy declaring he is a kangaroo?

Should a white student be able to declare himself to be black in order to get a scholarship reserved for minority students?

[Wondergirl]

Things happen to the fetal brain and body during pregnancy. Some of those things involve estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone. Since God's perfect binary system was changed and rewritten by Adam and Eve, gender identification is no longer what was originally intended. Humans, animals, insects, and even plants are now subject to non-binary possibilities.

[jlisenbe]

We've been through all of that before. It's just pure conjecture on your part. All of it from hormonal influences, Adam and Eve, gender identification, and so forth. No evidence at all. It could just as well be said that species are now subject to non-binary possibilities so that a human can actually be a horse. It's just pure Polly-Anna fantasies from someone who wants it to be so but cannot demonstrate it is at all.

[Wondergirl]

Binary has nothing to do with humans becoming horses. Read the first three chapters of Genesis.

Then read this:

***Unfortunately for those who believe in a gender binary, it is not scientifically or medically correct. Gender can’t be binary, because it is a personal identity and is socially constructed.

Sex, which refers to one’s biological characteristics, also exists as a spectrum, because intersex people exist. A person’s sex can be female, male, or intersex—which can present as an infinite number of biological combinations.

Today, numerous scientific fields, including biology, endocrinology, physiology, genetics, neuroscience, and reproductive science, have confirmed that both sex and gender exist as a spectrum.***

https://cadehildreth.com/gender-spectrum/

[jlisenbe]

I'm not playing this silly game again with you. There is NOTHING in the first three chapters of Genesis, or anywhere in the Bible for that matter, that suggests that this non-binary nonsense is something even approaching normal or good. If you think there is, then post the passage. Otherwise, I will leave you with your fantasy world.

Now if you want to argue that we humans are broken creatures given over to sin, then you have an ally, but that is not what you're saying, or at least it doesn't seem to be so. It is, however, clearly the message of Gen. 3.

[Wondergirl]

Adam and Eve used their God-given free will to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. And then the universe became subject to endless possibilities, including the fact that both sex and gender are now on a spectrum.

Did earthquakes and volcanoes exist in Genesis 1 and 2? Did fruit spoil in Genesis 1 and 2? Did Adam and Eve always get a satistying night's rest in Genesis 1 and 2? Were there weeds in the Garden in Genesis 1 and 2?

[tomder55]

And as a trans female, that's exactly where she is headed, what she wants to have done. If that very expensive procedure can be done at the state's expense, with all protocols followed, she'd be thrilled!

Na he she was going to jail anyway so he she found an easy way to get some booty .

[jlisenbe]

And then the universe became subject to endless possibilities, including the fact that both sex and gender are now on a spectrum.

Idle speculation which is nowhere stated in the Bible. And even in your own statement it is not presented as something that is normal, good, or desirable, but rather that which is the result of man's sin. So it is at least rewarding to see you acknowledge that much. I commend you for at last heading in the right direction!

Na he she was going to jail anyway so he she found an easy way to get some booty .

That would seem to be right, and the foolish court system helped him out in that regard.

[Wondergirl]

Idle speculation which is nowhere stated in the Bible. And even in your own statement it is not presented as something that is normal, good, or desirable, but rather that which is the result of man's sin. So it is at least rewarding to see you acknowledge that much. I commend you for at last heading in the right direction!

Why are there volcanoes and earthquakes? Why can't you always get a good night's sleep? Why are there weeds in your garden and flowerbed? Why do the bananas you bought turn brown?

That's all because of man's sin? MY sin? YOUR sin?

[jlisenbe]

There is nothing to argue. You have laid it out that the events of Gen. 3 were sinful and produced negative consequences which are not good, pleasing to God, or normal. I certainly think we can agree on that. Now there is nothing in the Bible about your "non-binary" ideas, so you need to keep working on that, but at least we can agree that the whole TG deal is abnormal and out of the will of God.